My practice in the Hobby has, for the last decade or so, been a little skewed towards the European and Antipodean. I used to be a regular at Corporate Treasures, but during Guliani's reign of terror, I became too paranoid to Punt in NYC for a while, so I appended sessions to my business trips to Sydney (generally disappointing sessions, BTW) and have made numerous trips to Amsterdam (overrated,) the Ruhr area of Germany (Heaven on Earth,) and Paris; which I usually visit for more art-oriented reasons but where I usually add some Close Encounters of the Punting Kind.
For a variety of reasons it has become impractical to go to Europe for a while (including the issue that my 97 year old mother worries about me when I travel to the extent that it has a negative impact on her health,) so in preparation for a new plunge (so to speak) into the New York scene I have been studying TER so as to be steered (I suppose this means I will have to try "cowgirl") in the right direction. This accounts for the absence of reviews by me. A situation which should soon be rectified, given the acquiescence of the relevant providers.
Recently I bumped into, and have incredibly enjoyed this discussion group. (This should be apparent from the amount of babble I have perpretrated upon it.) It has also given rise to an issue regarding which I would appreciate some provider opinions.
I like women. I mean, I really LIKE women. Most of my friends are women. I think I have only made 2 close male friends since graduating from college in 1970. One is the husband of an ex-girlfriend and the other the brother of one of those girls who I love but who values friendship more than romance. (See my pathetic posts in the Give Flowers thread, but I am not talking about Christine.)
I have been able to identify several reasons why I don't make many male friends. First, I find sports staggeringly boring and many men talk about little else. Second, I am by nature nurturing and not competitive. (Except when it comes to the Arts where everyone else's opinion is clearly wrong and I am clearly right.) Third, it seems that most men I run into in the general course of life do not like and respect women as much as I do.
This leads to my question. After spending a couple of weeks reading this board, I am developing the feeling that Hobbyists (at least those who participate in this forum) like and respect women more than the men I run into at work and in other neutral territories.
Is there any truth to this? It seems on the face of it, irrational. Is there a difference between the client in general and the subset represented by those who post here? I would really be interested in provider views on this, should the forum-master be tolerant enough to allow through this latest piece of drivel.
I just wanted to drop a few comments to your question. Guys may appear to behave better or respect a provider more than lets say their wives. That may not be really accurate. When a guy sees a provider, as with a woman they are just starting to date, the guy will be on his best behavior. He is considerate, charming, attentive etc. Same deal with a new girl friend because he is trying to impress the lady. Now some would say, why try to impress a provider for you are paying for it and its damn near a sure thing. Part of the reason why guys see escorts. But many guys are still in that nmind set of trying to impress the lady. Many guys feel that the better they treat the provider, the better the session will be and on some levels it is. If the lady is comfortable with you, she will be more apt to provide you a good time instead of just trying to run you out.
Now a husband may still love his wife and respect her to death but like in most relationships, over time, each partner will start to take the other for granted. It doesn't mean they don't love and respect each other as much but each one falls into a rut and sort of expects the other person to know this instead of expressing their love.
There are a number of married guys who see escorts because in their mind they want the variety of physical encounters without letting themselves become emotionally involved with another lady. I'm not saying its right or wrong, just a reality of life. Does that mean hubby doesn't respect his wife? In some people's mind yes, but in his mind no because he is committed to the marriage if not neccessaryily the fidelity that is suppose to be apart of beinf married.
Just my two cents........
Now hit my music!
Every date is the First Date, you want to impress her and make yourself feel suave and charming. Truth is its all afacade and won't last, mainly because the provider is just that a service worker, doing a job with a smile.
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You raise some good points (and, BTW, I always enjoy reading your posts and replys) but do you think that would carry through to Punters posts on this message board? Maybe so. Maybe more writers than I assumed would operate under the assumption that providers were reading this board and color their posts accordingly. But when I think of the way my male co-workers talk about my female coworkers.... YIPES!!!
BTW2, what music? As I type, I am listening to the latest by Jon Langford and The Pine Valley Cosmonauts, a country punk offshoot of The Mekons.
No problem. Great minds think alike or ................I have this Jedi mindtrick thing I've been working on. LOL
I'm Out!
Now Hit My Music!
I truly believe that many in the hobby are there because they simply love women. Many are married, yet because they love women, they seek the variety that can only be obtained via the hobby.
I can only speak for myself. I believe that I treat my wife with respect and kindness. I just find myself hungering for more variety in my life.
I treat the professionals I encounter with the utmost kindness and respect. I appreciate them. They take certain risks to see me. I want them to like and trust me, for only then can they begin to relax with me. Once you each a level of trust the entire experience seems to go on to a higher level. Life has taught me that you only get back at the same level as you give. Sure, these ladies are professionals. They are also human. We all want to be appreciated. I have recieved incredible gifts from some of the professionals I have encountered. I want to give back at the same level.
Finally, I must agree with some of your earlier positions. I, too, find sports staggeringly boring. I am saddened and shocked at the way many of my colleagues treat their wives/ significant others. Perhaps it simply comes down to to empathy for other individuals....
I apologize that it has taken me so long to reply to your understanding and empathic reply. I also found your review quite beautiful and I look for the same type of experience. I have had no connection to the Internet for over a week because I was spending time with my mother (97 years old) trying to improve her frame of mind and get her doctor to take her symptomatic issues more seriously instead of simply reacting to them as the inevitable result of aging. Both my mother and my father (who died in 1967) contributed to my respect for all humans and especially for the feminine gender. Since my mother had wanted to be a physician from adolecence but my grandmother would not let her ("education was not necessary for a woman") I have insisted on having women as medical practicioners ever since.
Of course, had she succeeded, she would not have met my father and I would not exist, but....
that I will praise a very attractive woman up and down, be willing to give her whatever she wants and ultimately leave her deified while I may take the opposite road with my SO...pointing out her shortcomings, getting frustrated when she does not behave like a courtesan and ultimately wishing that all of my sexual experiences could go as well as they do while I am hobbying. Of course, not all hobbying experiences are completely positive, but for the most part, sex with a hobbyist is so much better than sex with my SO, and she is still in her 20's!!! Of course, this attitude does not bode well for the future, and it is something that I definitely need to work on if I expect this relationship to last.
But to answer the original post, I treat CERTAIN women better, but it is entirely based upon primarily their appearance and then on their attitude/personality. Most women can have a very good attitude and personality when they are being worshipped AND paid handsomely. Of course, all hobbyists may not treat providers the same, as I do not worship a provider that I feel is average in appearance, but I do not understand how a man could not worship a beautiful woman who is willing, for the most part, anything to bring that hobbyist extreme pleasure.
Precisely why my experiments in having an SO have crashed in such abundent and (for me) guilt-inducing pain. And why I have given up on that route for enhancing my life. The result is loneliness, but at least freedom from guilt.