I know that some providers don't share my feelings on this matter, and I would imagine that many of you have been trained to pay in advance by providers who insist upon it. But some of us get so stressed out by it that it rattles us up considerably, and I've almost turned men away on numerous occasions because of it.
Your best bet- at least for the first visit (after that it doesn't matter) is to put it in an envelope, and set it down somewhere where she/I can see it, at the beginning of the session. This should be done without commenting on, or gesturing to, it. If she's a "pay up front" kind of gal, she can open it up and count it before she removes her chastity belt.

I would just as soon have you pay me at the end of a session, but if you would prefer to do it as stated above, that's fine too. But please, whatever you do, do not walk through the door, pull out your wallet, and say, "here, let me take care of this right now" or even worse "what did you say your rate is, $200?"

What amazes me is that even after I tell them to just have a seat, and I turn away from them, and start pacing the room with my head in my hands, mulling over whether I should let them stay or make them leave- some will still come up to me and try to put the money in my hand  What are they trying to do, give me a coronary attack?

I just can't take that kind of stress anymore; so please, in the name of whatever you hold sacred, please don't do that to me. Remember that what we are doing is illegal; so try not to act in a way that could be used as a set up. I mean I take a lot of risks compared to some of the providers I know, so if it freaks me out, I would imagine that others feel the same way about it. The only way I could respond to such a gesture without incriminating myself, would either be to offer only the services of a legitimate escort (i.e. ROB you) or 86 you.

One thing that will absolutely guarantee your immediate dismissal from this point forward, is asking me if I will give you a blow job for $140. For one thing, I charge $225 for an hour, and it doesn't matter if you want me to help you write a letter to your grandma for an hour; that's what it's going to cost you. Second, if anything, I should charge more for oral, since that is my area of expertise, and many see me solely for that service (one gentleman even suggested I charge $500, and paid me accordingly) And most importantly, you scare the shit out of me for asking such a self incriminating question. The only thing stupider than asking me such a thing, is for me to answer with anything other than, "I don't know what on earth you are talking about. Now get out of here before I call the cops -pervert!"

In closing, let me say that I know that those of you who try to hand me the money up front do so with the best of intentions. But please, I implore you, either pay me at the end (or in the middle) of the session; or put it in an envelope and set it down discreetly. Some might argue that this puts me at risk of being ripped off, but I'd rather be out the $$.25 than wind up in jail.

Note: this message was posted for educational purposes only. Any resemblance to shameless self-promotion is purely coincidental and was not the intent of the author.

Reont Pay Me Upfront!

Thanx for the advice, I'm a newbie and was thinking paying in advance would be a good way to put the lady at ease but your explanation made perfect sence. I will stock up on non descript envelopes

And I haven't quite heard it put like that. I love your style. And I welcome any shameless plug you might want to make

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shameless plug? me? NO way hahaha I realy was not attempting to do that...

sash

I prefer to pay up front.  I understand in the current climate of active LE, providers are nervous.

However I believe paying up front in a discrete way: place it on the table, put everyone at ease, especially for the first time visit.

Several months ago, I saw my ATF and forgot to pay her.  She was so hot that day, we immediately started things going.  We had such a good time together, I kind of overstate a bit.  So I hurried up and got ready to leave since she had another appt right after me.  Just before I was out of the door, she gingerly asked me whether I had left the donation.  Then it comes to me that I forgot to do so.  I was so embarrassed that I appologized profoundly.  It is good that I had made appt to see her later in the week and had been pretty generous to her in the past.  Otherwise I will be regarded as a cheater and will definitely be on her blacklist.

Sometimes, we only think with our small heads so I believe it is better to pay up front and get it over with before the fun starts.

Reont Pay Me Upfront!

Personally I also just leave the donation in an envelope within plain view before anything transpires.  That is done primarily for the lady's comfort.  I will admit however, that if she actually counts it first, it puts a definite damper on whatever might happen next.

ok as i mentioned thats ok but yes discretely in a  spot where i can view it but not notice it

sasha

Reont Pay Me Upfront!

well i dont count it, but when they are showering or when they are cleaning up i do with out them seeing

sasha

Reont Pay Me Upfront!

I have no problem with something taking place without my knowledge.  Your approach is cool as far as I'm conerned.  Frankly, of the gals I've seen I would think most do something similar.  But I do think it's crass do do it right in my face..at least with a non-agency gal.

Of course I tend to be a "repeater" with the gals once I really like them as opposed to always looking for a new notch to add to the bedpost. So these gals indoubtedly know they've nothing to worry about.  Exactly when they count it, I have no idea & don't need to know, but I'm sure if I accidently came up short (& it would be an accident) that I'd hear about it---as well as I should & would expect.

It's been longer than I can remember when any counting was done beforehand...even then, that was probably in my "newer" days when I dealt with agencies---& even in those cases, it didn't always happen.

excuse yourself to go to the bathroom to freshen up...wash your hands; if she asks "what is that?" either say "I found this on the path outside, thought somebody may have dropped it", OR, run like hell; you are either dealing with LE or an idiot.

I tried to avoid the situation of obvious counting by converting 20s into 100s.  It takes more time (go to tellers instead of ATMs) but there is usually not much counting needed.

Most of the time, I will use the bathroom after placement of the donation to allow the ladies to check things out.  It is just like checking ID for screening purpose, it does not offend me for ladies to count it.  This is still a risky business so trust is hard to come by.

Reont Pay Me Upfront!

Are things really that bad as far as LE is concerned in the US of A?  In Canada, unless they're doing a lot of it very undercover, you hardly ever hear about them going after escorts or agencies - only where there's a specific complaint.  I think once a year or so, they close down a massage parlour in my hometown.  But I've certainly not heard of the kinds of elaborate entrapment schemes that have been posted on this messageboard.

I'm wondering if it's to do with the way the law actually works.  Up here, what's illegal is "communicating for the purposes of prostitution" in a public area, (which covers street corners, the internet and telephone).  But, for example, if I show up at somebody's hotel room or private home and we discuss it there, that's not illegal anymore, and actually accepting money isn't illegal per se.  (As far as incalls, you can be charged with "keeping a common bawdy house" - talk about 19th century wording!)  Hell, I suspect that one or two of my regulars are actually cops!

Anyway, I'm just wondering if there really is such a difference in the way these laws are pursued.  It certainly seems like it.

-Anya

I agree with Anya statement. I am not worry about LE because I do a screening process and so far it works very well. I try to avoid the situation totally, but I had this client (which was 27 if I may add) He setup a meeting. It was understood that he found me on one of the board. E$$$ America, visited my site and understood what my fee was and it was for my time only and what ever happen between us was between two consenting adults. He requested a one HR session. The gentleman was up front, full of laughter and had a wonderful personality. He even mentioned that he would like more then one Pop. Well, all went well and before he exit he placed the envelope on the dresser and said thank you for the enjoyable evening and left. I checked the envelope and instead of $250 for the hour he left $80 (I thought maybe I had one beer's to many so I counted it again and again and a gain... now trust me this guy sounded very intelligent and at no time did I didn't think his ass couldn't count.

After that little session, I will not date Newbie's under 30 and those that are over 30 will pay upfront no matter what. Fool me Once Shame On You - Fool Me Twice Shame On Me: A lesson learned. Fu--king Ass Hoe, I am still laughing about that one.


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The current high-level administration and LE has a hard-on for expunging prostitution. This has given local agencies, with directors who feel the same way, on moral ground, to spend more money, time and effort on opperations against prostitution. So currently, yes there is a rise in action against even consenting adults, who simply care enough for each other to exchange gifts of special value.

well you can always say "would you like to buy this condom?"

then say " let me demonstratee it for you "

haha
sasha

hahaha (raising hand) me me me !!!! I will be the first to try it hahhaha
sasha

Here is a quote from a review of another provider:

"Both times I have seen her the business is handled with in the first 30 sec. Just a sugestion- Let us get in the door and relax for a few minutes before demanding the money. I don't have a problem handleing the business before, but a least let me take off my jacket off-you know what I mean?"