the provider has to be "on", and it's not such an easy task, especially with some guys.

I've had the same experience where for business I have to entertain or be entertained by a client/vendor, and if I had a choice, I'd be nestled on my couch with the newspaper or laptop instead even if they do feed me well and ply me with wine.

Why do you feel any compulsion to order for her?  That seems a bit odd, especially in this day and age.

There was one gal I used to dine with who always ordered something she didn't like and ended up taking my order instead.  So, I got wise and ordered something for her I liked, and ordered for myself something I didn't like.  Problem solved.

before taking her to a fine dining place. Usually you can't go wrong with a nice steak and seafood place. But if she's one of those tofu vegan peeps or god forbid likes snails, I'm at a total loss. And look for a gal who has a dinner package. Those usually are not the same hourly rates as a straight hour by hour gig

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I see most reviews here just discuss the sex in hotel rooms and such.

If your point is that if you are scheduling a "dinner date" than by all means you should expect to pay for it, as you are "booking her time" then I agree with you completely.

OTOH if it just happens "after" the paid portion of the date, and the two of you decide jointly to enjoy a meal together OTC, that's a different matter completely.

If that's what you are saying, yes I agree completely, and this is something I do all the time. One last point about this type of thing, when the "meter is off" and she is not charging you, there is no reason for her to be "ON" IOW you get the real her, not the fuck doll that you just got done fucking.

and one very last thing, personally I like snails, although I prefer to let a woman do her own ordering.

You are making progress. lol

Ms. Telford would you say that the poster is vacillating with respect to his point of view on woman in the companionship aspect of the sex industry? Or would you say that he doesn't have a full picture of the social component of those who are practitioners in the hobby?

You have to remember that you are paying for her time, nothing more.   Anything else that happens is between 2 consenting adults.  

Also, I don't agree with Fish that she has to be "on," by which I assume he means she should be paid for her time.  As I've said, when I take a woman to dinner it's usually after a session and is totally impromptu.  She goes because she wants to, mainly because she's hungry, has some time to kill and finds my company to be less than loathsome.  She dresses however she wants and isn't putting on a show for me or anyone else.  It's just two people enjoying some food and good company.

It's better just to ask her if she's going to charge you to take her to dinner.  

If you want to take her to dinner, then expect to pay her... and no, it is not proper for you to order for her unless she asks you to.  

You expect us to take "TIPS" on how to impress a woman from a guy who calls himself "HotGuy" on a fuckboard for hookers and johns. ROFLMFAO!!!

You and Tiddles should definitely get together, he has too little self esteem, and you have too much. The two of you should be a match made in heaven.

You painted yourself into a corner there, my friend.

I will not let that error of my judgement happen again

Oopss..guess not  

I know I wouldn't discuss certain topics with her however.

I would think that would be the last place anyone would take an escort.

right, oh Pedantic one???

For a second I thought that DD was going to say it's like the word "class" the surest way to prove you have no class, is to brag about how much class you have. lol

You wouldn't discuss complex issues with her, because you know she'd filet you and fry you up, flip you, and serve you for dinner on any topic lol.

Seems that you two might even have an affection for each other.  Do you do doubles with her?

I know when to allow those around me to bloviate.

Now I really shouldn't be putting that I take them to TacoBell, should I?

And anyone who's been married knows exactly what that is.

I'm starting to get the impression that you think that escorts are not actual women with real feelings or wants.

I've seen his portfolio as well  

Good.  Around here he need all the help he can get.

That carries some weight...doesn't it?

What you posted was exactly my point... and I agree there is no need for her to be "on". If she's not comfortable enough to let her hair down with me, we probably won't be sharing a meal together.

Sure some guys will fib a little.

I only kiss ass if she wants me too  

Nice camouflage job.

Also, I wanted to see if you'd play the pedantic putz again by pointing it out.
So thanks for playing, Mini-Conan II. LMAO!

I guess, some of us, don't get as many reviews on this, As we should...

I am aghast at this accusation.  LOL!

Take my advice or don't take my advice, it makes no difference to me.  Why you assume I would care what your opinion is sir, well is baffling, nay the definition of insanity.

sorry, but guys with self-esteem don't refer to themselves as "bona fide hot" and "a treat for the ladies" in their reviews. That's not self-esteem, that's insecurity...a rather large pile of it.

Mr  hot guy you just cooled off quite a bit. You know not of which you print. I have never paid the lady for any off the clock time but I have paid for the meal, entrance fee or whatever the outing cost. One exception was when a provider bought me breakfast.

If you have to ask the question on a fuck board, you are not cut out take an escort anywhere.

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Here's the deal:  I'll answer your question then you answer mine about the ordering in a restaurant.  I'm really intrigued by that one.

Yes, I often bring gals to malls.  It may be just window shopping, or they might be interested in buying something with their donation, or I might have agreed to buy them something for their birthday, Christmas, etc.

Happy?

Now, fulfill the bargain.

take her along to watch you get fitted for a bra!

I guarantee that she will be quite taken.

I mean, I've watched while gals paid you to take them to dinner, and the gals paid the bill even!

I'm talking about the rest of the world.

When they arrived she nearly had a fit when she saw them.

It was quite priceless.

I see one gal with whom I dine after every date. She is a steak house kind of gal and that's where we've mostly gone, but last time I got a hotel which had a highly rated tapas bar just next door so I took her there.

Tapas is not that exotic but she just stared at the plate when the food came out.

Live and learn.

So I assume if we go out to dinner, its the same donation per hour.

In a civvie world unrelated to escorting, would she be caiught dead with you in public setting? The answer is probably no, so while she's being nauseated by your appareance and your dumb jokes the only thing that will get her through dinner is the thought that she's actually getting paid for this. So Bon appetit...

Here's your post again...

You shouldn't even have to be told that, let alone have it explained to you.

I would bet that you care about many in this world.

Way to kill the mystery.

Posted By: Lord_of_the_Board

I would bet that you care about many in this world.  
   
 Perhaps we can discuss the LGBTQ world one day?  I would bet you are as passionate about that as you are about life.  
   
 I have been told I am a pretty good judge of character.  But maybe they were just lying to me.  Probably not though..and I didn't pay them either.  
   
 This is such a strange world we are in    
   
 

I have read a number of the posts to my OP and it seems that quite a few guys see escorts without paying them at dinners.

You may need to contact Columbo  

Posted By: Tobi Telford

Way to kill the mystery.  
   

Posted By: Lord_of_the_Board

I would bet that you care about many in this world.  
     
  Perhaps we can discuss the LGBTQ world one day?  I would bet you are as passionate about that as you are about life.  
     
  I have been told I am a pretty good judge of character.  But maybe they were just lying to me.  Probably not though..and I didn't pay them either.  
     
  This is such a strange world we are in    
     
 

"If you're a good looking guy, trust me, use protection that doesn't protect."

I guess he doesn't care that those don't protect against STDs.

SMH...

:-0

Steph

Who wouldn't like to be paid $300 an hour to eat free food?

I see what you did there, its almost as erotic as a well written review.

So you aren't a clock watcher but you want the guy to be?

But then all the girls probably WANT to go bbfs with such a bonafide hot, good lucking guy and treat for the ladies!

including to many drive-thrus.
Car died on me with only 120K miles.
Damn Fords.

and I thank you for clarifying things about ordering for the woman.  I think we can agree that such a practice is outmoded at best and patronizing in any case.

When I first started posting, I used to give opinions on the Legal Corner Board as if I were a lawyer when I was not.  One esteemed member of that board at the time (My memory fails to recall his handle.) took me to task for this.  I agreed with him that I should provide a disclaimer so in my next post I wrote at the end: "not a lawyer".  When I wrote the post after that one I wrote:  "still not a lawyer", and that's where things have been at ever since.

I might be wrong but I think WickedBrut started the fishbro moniker just a few months ago.

I don't pay it no mind however.

Call me what you will, but just don't call me late for dinner is my motto.

I thank you for your kind words.  Ask away.

We are not talking about off the clock time.

It was only with that one girl, we had discussed it during and there was trust built up; and she did yell at me for putting it in the review.

She forgave you, right?

Now she has every loser on TER trying to see just how far they can push her limits. Yes, quite a guy you are, I don't know how I didn't see all over your qualities up to this point.

Sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself. lol

If seeing a girls (paid and unpaid) eyes light up when she sees me and rips open my shirt is insecurity, I'll take it.

and she was a NCNS. I got to know her.

But to be so sure that so many here aren't indeed successful is quite naive.

So here's some for you: I'm really sorry that you are so insecure that you feel the need to give all us lesser hobbyists "tips" and remind us all that you're "not like the average hobbyist." And I'd agree with you that there are very likely some guys out here that are very easy on the eyes, but you're the only douchenozzle crowing about it. And even if you are as "hot" as you claim to be, I think I have a better idea how most escorts react to your egomania:

In my experience, the guys who describe themselves as "good looking" are 6s at best. As a matter of fact, the last guy who described himself to me as such ended up looking like Uncle Fester with a gym membership. The fact that you put that in a bunch of your reviews and board posts (let alone your TER handle) is cringey as fuck. I'm actually embarrassed for you.  

But if an escort ever turns into a babbling nympho at the mere sight of me I'm taking her to the mall...straight to LensCrafters!

I also love to have intimate conversation and flirt and laugh.  . I also love to dress elegantly and dinner is a good excuse for that.
When I use the word "spoiled" I just mean that I really appreciate it when these nice gentlemen treat me special

If someone wants to take me to a two hour concert or a two week vacation to the tropics, and they offer to pay for the tickets, but don't want to pay for my TIME, that is the official definition of "off the clock."

Thought this was a message board and not an exact grammatical science, proof read required, professional board.   Typos happen, get over it.   For your information, and this is actual proven science, the brain has the capacity to think it sees something in writing that is not there.  So if you want to come at me with a silly typo and try to say it has anything to do with my intelligence level?, have at the fools errand.  

Take my advice or don't, does not matter to me.
Believe me or don't, does not matter to me.

for someone who doesn't care. And it's "fool's errand," singular possessive

Hate to burst your bubble, but none of you are exactly masters of the spoken word; thus throw your stones wisely.