as soon as you get a new Hitachi wand, then you can go fuck yourself, bwahahaha.
Seems like 1/3-1/2 are always getting 'sick'. Lots of sick people running around or lots of pretty ladies lol.
Let me know if y'all get as many cancellations as I do.
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And that was my first pot shot of 2014
Why don't they just write it in the fuckin review? I don't tell ppl anything that isn't true.
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More like checking in and getting the full scoop that doesn't make it to the review. Same concept as a provider checking references I would guess (although I may be wrong).
I've done it a couple of times. Not so much asking if the review is real....more like hey I saw you gave a great review and is there anything else you can tell me. What does she like, etc. Stuff like that.
Not insinuating that someone is gossiping about you.. Although the fact is that people always talk about other women before taking the plunge. Its a normal practice amongst seasoned hobbyists...Its just like employer checking on you before hiring you for a job...
Let me PM you...
they should back channel before they schedule
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What I know from my side.
Dig away lol
But I would always BC someone who's recently seen an indy provider, who I haven't seen yet.
Just a customary check kind of thing.
I'm saying what others are saying in general.
as soon as you get a new Hitachi wand, then you can go fuck yourself, bwahahaha.
It's also a synonym for Greek. And, yes, I would love to introduce myself to your Back Channel. LMAO! I am totally kidding about it being a synonym for Greek. But not about the other part.
I know I am always very aware of my health before I see a provider.. I don't want to give her a cold or anything and this time of the year, I might be inclined to cancel if I think I feel something coming on.. I usually look forward so much to my date that I can't sleep the night before(remember Christmas morning when you were a little kid).. I keep hoping that I will take it for granted.. and I usually see my ATF twice a month and another girl once a month.. so it's not like it's a yearly thing at this point.. But if I were to feel "off" I might cancel..
"Day of” cancellations are very rare and I can’t even remember the last time I had a NCNS.
Because they fear the wrath of The Many-Armed Goddess, Durga!
I've found the prospect of being slain by Hindu deity to be a stronger deterrent than a deposit on a future appointment.
Would not expect such a high rate. Are they typically the same guys? Are you enforcing your cancellation policy?
Goes without saying, but guys shouldn't confirm if they don't have any intention of keeping an appointment (ie...booking Plan B while waiting for a response from Plan A). Understand checking availability. But if a guy confirms he ought to keep the appointment.
And it helped w payment, but he ain't gonna see me again, (though I was nice, just truthful,) but I don't blackmail or threaten. That may be why.
And a lot of these guys are TER guys BTW
So maybe a stricter cancellation policy? If a guy knows that all he needs to do is tell you he's not feeling well and you'll waive the cancellation fee, he's probably more inclined to book knowing that he can just cancel if he needs to without consequence.
I checked your cancellation policy and its very fair. I've seen others that are much more aggressive. Guys need to understand that there's an opportunity cost to cancelling, even when we're not feeling well. And the cancellation fee DOES NOT make up for the fact that you could have booked someone else in that slot and didn't. Would think that MOST guys would understand that.
My $0.02.
what an ass. sorry buddy but it's flu season and this one is bad all over the country. if i'm getting sick, i'm not getting her sick just to avoid a cancellation fee. and if she has half a brain, she'll appreciate me for protecting her from getting my miserable fucking disease. a few hundred bucks isn't worth spending a week in bed with a high fever.
But there are consequences to me cancelling. And I understand that and am ok with that.
"I felt like I was getting sick, and I was hoping not, so I scheduled."
Not my fault
Sick was an example. There are a ton of other excuses, but as many cancellations I get, and by the way, I just started taking cancellation fees, it's starting to really cost money. If you knew the whole deal you'd get it.
This is our income, and a lot of us don't see 10 ppl a week. The expenses eat up our bank accounts, and a little help footing the bill we had for these guys, is nice.
I don't just stay in Holiday Inns, I get nice hotels in nice areas... and parking is expensive.
And I do take care of those who are faithful, and you know that.
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Yeah I only see 1-2 gentlemen per week right now. If I only have one thing booked all week, and it's a last-minute cancellation (less than an hour's notice, has happened to me twice this month), I still have to pay for my Incall that I rented for the appointment and my transportation, etc. I don't have a high-maintenance lifestyle so I am okay when this happens, but it's so rude and makes me feel really discouraged and upset that someone thought it was okay to waste hundreds of dollars of my money not to mention usually 4-5 hours of my time between getting ready, traveling to Manhattan from Brooklyn, traveling home, etc. I never "hate my job" when I am actually seeing clients. That part is always great or even if it's a mixed bag the positive aspects are the ones I tend to focus on and I let everything else go. But the inconsiderate and expensive last-minute cancellations, repeatedly, do sometimes leave me frustrated and wanting to quit. As soon as I meet a more considerate gentleman the feeling goes away though. But yeah, totally not cool. I screen well and I've never had such an epidemic of cancellations with screened clients until I moved to NYC. Even a few NCNS from screened clients. What can I do about it tho? Ask for a cancellation fee, notify their references, move on. If they don't send a cancellation fee... Well, there may be long-term consequences for their reputation. I would never blackmail anyone, but I do notify other providers when someone is a time-waster. But NYC is a big market so I don't think this ultimately affects hobbyists too much. They have so many options, many of whom don't read these boards. In smaller markets, blacklisting guys who cancel last-minute and doesn't send your cancellation fee can be effective at helping other providers avoid these experiences. Lots of these guys are chronic double/triple bookers and need to be tagged as such.
This is our income, and a lot of us don't see 10 ppl a week. The expenses eat up our bank accounts, and a little help footing the bill we had for these guys, is nice.
I don't stay in Holiday Inns, and parking is expensive.
And I do take care of those who are faithful, and you know that.
the op stated that the excuses were getting sick and i took i literally.
this raises a question, what if the guy really is getting sick after the appt was made and he cancelled to not get you sick? would you still charge him a cancellation fee?
It's a case by case basis. How do I know if it's true or not? If he pays it, then he's serious about seeing me the next time. But a guy I've seen and is a good client.. Prob not
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Top excuses are.... awful cold that started this morning, horrible injury, car accident, or family tragedy. But then whey they get horny that very same day, they'll contact me last minute and say they are better now.
It happens the most when touring. Everyone loves to cancel. I end up wasting the week chilling in some random state halfway across usa when I could've made more at home. Not even including the cost of hotel room for the week, food, check-in bag round trip, taxi there and back to airport, and flight fee.
OK....maybe 3. ....during the last 8 years or so. And yes, in each case it was due to illness. I mean it DOES happen. But in my case I notified the lady at least the day before the appt.
Courtney...I respond to your post because the NS dudes and jerks who suddenly catch the "flu" shortly before an appt affect me too. No telling how many ladies that were booked up when I contacted them for an appt ended up with availibility at the last moment. That was a big prob in DC. So much so several quality ladies stopped touring there.
BTW...Ive suffered many NCNS and last minute emergencies from the ladies as well. Seemed like car accidents [" I'm OK but my girlfriend is hurt and I need to be at the hospital until we know she is OK"] are more prevelent than sickness....lol
Because I said I'd be there with him first.
My requirements will be changing soon anyway. Longer packages. Less demand, less clients, but more than likely people will be more serious when scheduling. I'll end up making the same in the end lol
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me too. if i cancel it will be at least several days before a session. never same day.
a few times i've had to request a time change for our dates, usually only an hour or so earlier or later. luckily its always worked out.
guys who cancel same day are pretty crappy, esp. if you've hired a room.
they really have been getting sick. there's an H1N1 flu strain going around the metro area so better they cancel on you then get you sick. you wouldn't want this flu CO, it's major bad shit in your lungs.
This is not new.
Not the same goal but the game plan is the same.
Quit being so fucking nice. Nice in this business equals doormat to a lot of guys.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a sweetheart, no really I am but I am also not a pushover, some say I am very businesslike via email but BCD I'm just a bundle of sugar and spice (I can't even type that without gagging).
I'm not telling you how to run your business but old ladies like me learn early on not to take shit. The guys on the board will tell you one thing on your thread and say "oh you're so hot, can't wait to meet you here in xxxxx' but you schedule a tour there -- crickets.
I get your personality, it works for you but guys knowing you're somewhat new AND nice? Shit honey they've got your number down.
You've got the looks, the personality and the reviews. Like I told you before, first impressions last a long time here.
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I've toughened up quite a bit since I've met her.
I'll get an email "wtf are you doing?! This jackass just,,," lol.
Actually noticing it in everyday life. I yelled at the car repair man, never would have before, assertively and sternly exposed an asshole at a phone place for lying that I had to buy a complete set for a charger when he had individual pieces... Lol.
Last night a bartender, after I said, "wow, what drink is that?" Said, "This is a bar. We serve all kinds of drinks. I'm not going to explain every drink to you." I replied, "Well that's how you make SALES and get people to come back to your bar. And that's how you get people to TIP you well," biotch. (It was the first drink I've asked about since I started going there 1 1/2 yrs ago.)
Then when the other bartender I liked got my drinks I gave her a real nice tip in front of the other one.
Bwahaha (c) London Rayne
Walked away like "did I just say that?" Lol. But yeah, I'm toughening up, and I like your reminder. Thanks Hun, I bitch at my other friend, but I'm going to send her your post lol. I'm in trouble lmao
And I will listen to this advice, and do trust (certain people,) for advice. This thread was an actual request for advice, not just to bitch, so thanks to you and all.
Xoxo
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I haven't had a NCNS since my agency days (for agency girls, I can tell you that they are pretty much endemic).
Have had guys cancel same-day, but rarely...maybe about 3 per year, tops. Last one I can remember was back in the fall...maybe Sept or Oct. Last one I can remember before that was almost two years ago. I might be forgetting some, but they are rare enough for me that they'd stand out. Even when I did incall and 1-hours as a newly independent provider, I didn't have a lot of trouble w/cancellations.
I think there are a variety of reasons for that. I've always seen a lot of regulars/repeats...and if a regular of mine turns flaky, or if his behavior otherwise deteriorates (as happens sometimes after they think they're 'in the door'), I won't keep giving him more chances. I rarely accept same-day appts so I don't deal as much w/impulse buyers. I also talk with each guy quite a bit before the appt...if I don't feel confident that he's cool and reliable, I won't make the date. I have 0 tolerance for men w/a certain vibe...you know the type. 'Oh well I'm sorry I misspelled everything on your form and didn't give my reference's contact info, but I was trying to wank and type at the same time. Can we hook up tomorrow? For about an hour or two? When? Ummmmm, after I'm done work... by the way, what are your rates??'
I do not get many cancellations as I am very very thorough about screening and I rarely give second chances when I am cancelled on.
I have indeed had to cancel due to either illness or because of a torrential downpour that left a tree in my driveway (the gent was not forgiving or sympathetic whatsoever) so I understand that things do happen.
I did have a NCNS a few months after going indy, the dick booked weeks in advance and I scheduled my tour around his schedule. He took a vacation to go to the beach and 'forgot' about our date. Shit happens.
Everyone is different.
Let me know if y'all get as many cancellations as I do.
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Truth is.. I was scared..
I looked for reasons to wimp out so I had an excuse for not going through with it.
Hey! TheHound is just a scared little pup. As we all are deep inside..
I get so many I am considering giving up
In May when I was so sick I couldn't get out of bed. But then again, I don't schedule anything when I think I may get sick.
When I'm very horny, people cancel. Maybe their sixth sense is saying *warning* *warning* she may drain all your fluids!