This might be useful for providers to exchange references more easily and for hobbyists to see providers without having to go through extensive screening procedures so often.  I thought of this idea as a possible improvement on TBD's controversial Client Review Database.  This would not work for everyone--it's just another tool for providers and hobbyists who want to use it.  

I can foresee some possible problems, none of which is more serious than the problems that come with reviews of providers.  I might have overlooked some aspects, and I encourage you all to point out the flaws and make suggestions.  It's just an idea--one I lost interest in after the fiasco of the last discussion of TBD's board on TER's L.A. board a few weeks ago.  At that time, I wrote that I would outline my proposal, and the discussion of screening below prompted me to finally do it.

--Hobbyists and providers who want to participate in the client verification program would have to be members of the hosting site.  

--Participation would be voluntary.  No client would be listed who did not ask to be.

--A hobbyist would let it be known that he would like to be listed, and his e-mail address would be added to the list.  Then, a provider who had seen him and is willing to vouch for him could do so by signing her working name to his listing.  By signing her name, she is indicating that she has seen him and he is an okay guy.  No review of him and no personal information about him beyond his e-mail address and, if he wanted, his username, would be included.  As many providers who want to vouch for a hobbyist could, so his list of approving providers could become long.  

--The providers would have to use their working names, so that readers would know who is vouching for the client.  That way, there is some accountability, and it would make the listings more useful.  Anonymous references seem useless to me.

--The database would be open to view by hobbyist-members who have been vouched for, as well as by provider-members who have contributed.  Provider-members who have not yet vouched for a client could see the list of names submitted by client-members, but there would be no indication of which ones had already been vouched for or who had vouched for them.

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your underlying concerns would never work because there are too many dishonest people out there trying to make a living, who give not a hoot about truth or accuracy. They need rent and drug money.
I've been researching and writing in this field for years.
Providers and hobbyists change in vast numbers every few months.
Name changes are helpful to avoid LE, or to keep reviewers from nailing bad providers.
Providers will always trash bad reviewers.
Hobbyists will trash providers who provide inadequate experiences and waste their money.
I try to send private e-mail warnings about known provider psychos, but they are still around, because of survival.
Most reviewers will not give a damn.
Maybe you can find a more worthwhile project.

Even from my optimistic point of view, this concept doesn't seem realistic by any means. I like the idea. I want providers to have every means at their disposal to protect themselves. I don't mind whatever screening is required. I want providers to know me and know about me. In most cases, the more they know about me the more comfortable they are and the more enjoyable the time we spend together.

It's always a risk but, as women go, providers are generally the most trustworthy. They understand the importance of discretion. They understand the meaning of a contract. Ordinary women don’t comprehend these things.

I agree with TheLostSchlong - A client verification board would be far too limited in it's effectiveness.

Keep the ideas coming!!

rik

-- Modified on 5/23/2002 9:58:48 PM

Thanks for a wonderful idea. I wish it would work, but don't think it can. Pretty easy for a hobbyist to impersonate another.

I also agree with Riker:
"but, as women go, providers are generally the most trustworthy. They understand the importance of discretion. They understand the meaning of a contract. Ordinary women don’t comprehend these things."

Not only are providers more trustworthy, most believe in giving value for value received. There is no free pootietang. You are going to pay for it one way or another. At least when you pay directly for it, you are much more likely to get it. Talk about taking one for the team! Try getting married........

I am skeptic from the other point of view. There are many hobbyists who contact me via a different email address and username than the one they use for TER or TBD ( also remember, you can change alias' at the drop of a hat too). Sometimes this is done on purpose to keep their identeties discreet. But for those who are open about which providers they have seen, they will usually tell you in an instant where their reviews are posted, (or who you can contact if they are review shy). I am guessing if you really wanted to follow up on it, you could email the girl through the email and/or website provided in the review. I never had this inclination, but I guess it would work ( if ( there is always an IF isn't there?) the girl is generous in giving that sort of information). There are of course many Escort Only discussion boards you can submit a " Do you know who this is?" post. But that too is tricky, cause if the hobbyist in question is a time waster,LE or even dangerous, would he really keep using the same email address and user name? It's hard, and I am happy to see someone is trying to come up with new ideas to make things easier and safer for both hobbyists and providers. That's what this biz is all about But as metioned, you will never get away from the wannabe's and the psychos of this world, whether they be providers or hobbyists. Just be careful and don't ever allow someone to talk you into something that makes you feel uncomfortable. Thanks for the idea!
Kym xoxoxox

Holly I really think you mean well here, but I have to agree with Mr. Schlong in the sense that... the TBD board already provides those ladies with integrity the venue you describe... and there is an a*shole in every crowd who will abuse it.

I do not agree that any client review database would be useful if the clients could see who posted what about them... because any remark... as an example, I might post that someone was *reluctant* to use protection and to be on the alert for it... would be able to be used against the lady later and you wouldn't find the database being useful at all due to that fact.

Gents do have their own venues, private boards, private emails, where they speak of us in ways we probably wouldn't like, with total impunity... because we do not have access to that information. I for one would not post a review on a board where clients could see who posted what because... EVEN IF my comments were harmless, they may not be construed as such by the client... I am not here to hurt anyone's feelings, even unintentionally.  I don't think you would find many ladies willing to post that information.

I don't think there are any easy answers to this and that's why it's such a hot topic for continuing debate... the one thing I personally feel strongly about, is that whatever our methods of screening are, we need to stop beating each other up over it.

Hugs*
Nicole

a provider would not have to worry about her comments being read by clients.  There would be no comments to be read.  It would be a "Good Client List," and not a "Bad Client List."

I don't think providers should be revealing delicate information about clients who have not done something that puts providers at real risk.  I don't object to women warning each other about guys who commit criminal acts toward a provider, are overly aggressive or rip her off, but it seems that most reviews are about decent guys who deserve more discretion that.

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Michael