Hello People!
I am in kind of a quandary, this being: I started seeing a provider who is excellent. I've seen her for 6 hours at $400 / hour. We are talking about meeting-up in Miami for 18 hours. I will pay for the hotel and all of her meals. She agrees that I will have a lower hourly rate for the 18 hours, and is asking me to suggest the total bill! What do you think is reasonable for 18 hours with this great provider? Thanks! g-man
$400/hr for 6hrs that’s spent outside of the bedroom? Your not entertaining behind closed doors the entire time? If your on a daycation, or staycation you would not be spending $400/hr it’s supposed to fun. Assuming your a good date & she appreciates your business because your friends. I don’t think anyone can tell you, but her. I offer discounted contributions for long dates. Some providers don’t because they prefer quicker dates that don’t last several hours it’s really a personal preference. Exchanging energy for me is very important on who you share your time with, so it’s phenomenal when your compatible. Be fair.
Factors I would take into account:
Does she provide everyday?
If, so how many clients does she see?
If she has quota try to match that, or make it worth her time.
You don’t want to insult her, but realize the expenses you have too…food, travel, etc…
Hi QueenBia,
I was hoping you would respond, as you always give good advice!
Her normal rate for incall is $400.
I had one 6-hour engagement with her. The sex was fantastic, and we enjoyed each others' company a lot. There is great energy. She is Argentinean and I love South American women!
The engagement, as currently proposed, will be for three days. I will be paying for the hotel and great meals. I understand that she needs to make so much a day, also that she will be dedicated to me, i.e. not earning with other clients, during these three days: All factors to be considered in pricing.
She's asking me to come up with number, but I really need to get back to her on this.
You've given me great questions and considerations. Thank you very much!
g-man
First of all, Compare the expenses of what both of you have or will have to pay out. And suggest @ least $800.00 to $1,250.00. And see what price she picks.
Given you're picking up the tab for everything else and see to have some history of spending some time with one another two points come to mind.
First, just how much time do you really think will be BCD type activity? Second, if this is an over night thing, how much sleep time is expected?
Personally I would not be paying her to be my hangout and see Miami partner -- certainly not at $400/hr. You might try breaking the 18 hours down that way. It that sees to come up to about 6 hours of BCD time then just pay what you've been paying. That is largely premised on the thought that she might actually want to go to Miami and play tourists there and finds you something of an acceptable "hang out buddy".
If the relationship is not that friendly but all about business (regardless of how well the role of GF is played) then you need to think about her opportunity costs. How much pay do you think she would be giving up? How certain is her booking all that time? I assume you can do the expected value calculation to get some upper limit beyond which you should not offer. How much below is your call.
Thanks, 36363jensen, for an intelligent and well thought-out response! It is eye-opening.
BCD is expected to average 6 hours a day, over three days. Charming as I am, my hunch is that she will want to be earning in non-BCD times.
The thoughtful and valid questions posed in your last paragraph are what Donald Rumsfeld would call the "things we know we don't know." I would be relying on her entirely for that information, making calculations suspect.
With your help, I've come to the realization that I would rather visit her hotel for traditional in-call over three days / 18 hours. If she wants to buzz around Miami afterwards, on her dime, that will be fine although I'd pay for dinner and drinks.
This approach requires little calculus of opportunity costs and projected earnings. (An economist friend offered that I should recognize her time as a perishable!) It also eliminates the prospect of either party feeling shorted.
Thanks again, 36363jensen, for helping me make up my mind. I will memorialize your council, and refer to when considering future engagements!
You're making me blush with that "memorializing" statement. LOL
I misunderstood your situation a bit and thought the entire trip was going to be a short trip of 18 hours there. You've still got the same situation in many ways -- asymmetric information and a who moves first game question. Asking her to give a number puts her in the position of needing to guess what the most you might pay. Her asking you to pick a number is putting that type of problem on your plate you need to guess what she might accept that you're still happy about.
LA for a two day getaway to Vegas. We did that a few times and as I look back, what a fucking waste that was.
But getting to your topic. You're going to Miami, one of the hotbeds for ladies to choose from. White, Latina, European, Caribbean...Dam why tie yourself to one lady....
Bur getting back to your post, I went off course again...lol,,,Offer her 4K take or leave it, there.
Think about your opportunity cost, not hers.
Thanks, Hpygolky!
If I like a provider, there is a temptation to book longer engagements with her. More times than not, this results in burning-up my remaining time watching Jerry Springer re-runs, while she's on her phone planning future meetings.
You are absolutely correct. I should be enjoying the many delights Miami has to offer, one of which is another delightful provider I want to see. This is a far better use of my time.
$4K is an excellent figure, and seems well-suited to these situations. Interestingly for me, I can see the two providers I want to see in Miami, with a few hundred bucks left over.
Thanks, again!
g-man
If it is then I probably would not go more than $2.5K, but it seems that is what you already basically paid for 4 hours. Totally depends on what her hourly rate is ... at most I would pay around 5-6X her hourly rate for 18-24 hours. For 4K you could fly from Miami to Costa Rica for 4-5 days, stay in a 4+ star hotel and do 4 overnights with 4 ladies that are probably comparable to this one and still come home with money in your wallet.
Thanks, TheVoiceofReason, for your straightforward advice!
The part about Costa Rica makes sense and puts things in perspective.
Looking at 5-6X her hourly rate for 18-24 hours works for me, too.
You have been most helpful.
Thanks, again!
g-man
While it's literally true, the lady in question also has to buy into the dollar amount. And she has no clue what pussy costs in CR. So while it may make sense to you, it won't make any sense to her.
That said, why not just go to Costa Rica?
in Miami, so that implies that you are not covering her transportation costs. When I was starting out, I had a regular that was a UCLA co-ed working her way through college as an escort. Her price for "sex time" was $400/hr but only $75/hr for what she called "social time", in other words, eating, sleeping, sightseeing, and anything else short of sexual activity, but at least one third of the total time had to be sex time. That was just about right for me. On 18 hrs, like you are proposing, that would amount to 6 hrs at $400 and 12 hrs at $75 for a total of $3300. With that said, I have since learned if I travel for longer periods of time and I pay travel expenses, hotel, meals and other incidentals, including spa time for the lady while I play golf, and I don't pay anything for her time, including sex twice a day, morning and nighttime. There is no shortage of providers who will accept these terms for a week at a five-star resort in Hawaii.
Thanks, Coeur -de-lion,
I typed-out a lengthy response, essentially in agreement with your comment. I discussed therein the ways that I'd benefit from your counsel. Alas, my screen timed-out and my comments are lost to the ages.
I, too, have benefited from a version of the sex-time vs. social-time approach and found it worthwhile. In one such scenario, I was on "social-time" and the woman suggested we go back to her place, where she would teach me the elements of chess at no hourly cost. The problem was, she was serious! I will take her up on it another time.
Your trips to Hawaii sound like a "win-win" for all!
Regards,
g-man.
You're going to Miami for 3 days.
A provider is interested in coming along.
You'll get her a room and meals.
You want 6 hours of her time each day.
She can't earn outside of the 6 hours.
In the past, she accepted $2,400 for a single 6-hr session.
If the above is accurate, your question can be boiled down to what discount you can expect for booking 3 days in a row.
ANSWER: 20%. Round up to 2k/day. Take her shopping one day too.
Thanks, John!
Your grasp of the situation exceeds my own.
g-man