i think the review system id great for the most part. it helps with the girls business,it makes guys feel more confident about who they are meeting and that's awesome

my problem is when the reviews are intentionally rude, mean, and I've read a couple of reviews that were even a little racist.

i think the reviews are meant to review the girls, not hurt their feelings.

I just don't understand why you would go see a girl that you aren't attracted to for whatever reason, if its her race, or weight why go see her at all?

I think some of you guys need a reality check, how would you feel if we wrote reviews about how old, or fat, or hairy or hairless you were. And i know you guys have said that you're paying the girl that's why we don't review you, but the fact is you are paying for our time not to write disrespectful things about us.  

If you want to review a girl then do so, if its not the girl in the pictures please do say so, if you feel like her pictures are out of date then by all means you should mention that. But if its the girl in the picture that you choose to go see, don't talk about her race or her weight. its just mean

sorry for ranting, i just had to get that off of my chest

Honey, you need some thicker skin if your feelings are hurt. Learn to take the good with the bad.
We are supposed to talk about your weight, how you look, how you suck and how you fuck. You are getting paid for that after all.

Be grateful we are here to support you and write the reviews in the first place.
Something else. The reviews are written by hobbyists for hobbyists. If you don't like what you read, too bad.
It is you who needs the reality check.

would deliver as advertised, and all hobbyists would write honest, sincere reviews. But we know that's never going to happen because you're dealing with people, personalities, and prejudices. You're also dealing with the male ego, the "I'm paying so I'm entitled to get what I want" attitude. Take the reviews with a grain of salt, form your own opinions, and when all else fails, do like Jethro Gibbs and go with your gut.

I was into your post and don't what you said in general was unreasonable.

What IS unreasonable it to come on here with the statement as quoted above, to in a sense generalize all of us into a painted group of idiots.

This can be a tough crowd here and perhaps that was the reason for the Alias. However, the old saying of "you catch more flies with honey, than you will vinegar" fit here. It left a sour bitter taste in my mouth.

Rant OFF.

It seems to me that a provider reading her reviews has to detach herself from what is being said.

Some hobbyists seem to care as deeply about a woman's girth, body hair, vaginal secretions and all kinds of other characteristics as an automotive enthusiast would care about the latest model in the showroom.  Maybe the automotive designer and engineer also take it personally when a magazine catering to enthusiasts picks apart their "baby" with all the zeal of a muckracking journalist, but I think that providers must know that one trait most hobbyists have is that we ADORE women and we like to think of ourselves as connoisseurs of the female form.  I know I would hate to read about my anatomical frailties in a public forum, but providers need to be aware that except very rarely, their bodies and sexual characteristics are discussed in depth so that the reviewer can stroke his own ego, believing himself a discerning judge of the provider's form and service.  It may be embarassing to read, but them's the rules of the road.

Just my $0.02 worth.

Yes, I agree -- gratuitous brutality in reviews is uncalled for.

BAD reviews, and GOOD reviews, if honest, are fine.

But both good and bad reviews can and should be written with the degree of respect reasonable for someone with whom one has shared intimacy. She's someone's mother, sister, or wife and a bad review is perfectly fine but unnecessary brutality is not.

HOWEVER, reviewing me is not fine. Unless, of course, you are laying 4+ bills on my nightstand.

I've hobbied on and off for 8 yrs and this is what I've found:

About provider sites and pics: Age rarely accurate, pics usually too forgiving of physical flaws. We all have them so I have no issues with women with some flaws. But don't forget this is a "physical" business. I've seen several providers with significant physical issues (in my opinion)that were never mentioned in reviews.

About reviews: Hobbyists tend to "round-up" numbers on reviews; probably for several reasons. The first they don't want to hurt a providers feelings or would like to repeat but don't want to offend.  The other reason is they may feel pressured to review. I have been pressured to do reviews but I refuse to write any. I will not lie to a fellow hobbiest nor do I want hurt the business of a provider. In private I will discuss issues. I actually had a provider imply that she will not give me a reference if I don't review. If I did an accurate review do you think I would get a referral?  

The bottom line is that reviews are generally not accurate in regards to physical attributes.

so she did not "generalize all of us into a painted group of idiots"

b-

"She appears 30 pounds heavier than in her photos...) is OK compared to "She's a fat cow".

Here's a tough one I struggle with. Describing the breasts... when they're at that naturally slightly (but not badly) saggy phase...

There is just no good/easy way with that...

i absolutely believe the reviews should be as accurate as you guys can make them, they should expose the truth about the woman, they should describe her sexual skills, her looks, her personality for certain. we are paid to be providers and behave a certain way towards you guys

My problem is when the reviews are written solely to be mean or rude

i have read at least 10 or more reviews where there are obvious racist comments and reviews where a guy says the girls pictures were completely accurate but shes a plus sized girl and hes not attracted to big women.

if you are not attracted to Asian or African-American or Caucasian or Latin American women, why would you go see a woman of that race and then talk about how unattractive you found the woman to be because you are not attracted to that race

or if you are not attracted to plus sized women, why go see a plus sized woman who advertises herself as a plus sized woman and then talk about unattractive you find plus sized women to be.

And it seems to me that some of you guys feel like your 200$ or 300$ or 400$ allows you to be a complete ass or allows you to be god for the hour and let me re-assure you that it does NOT.

I am a very utr provider, i go to school and still manage to make 4500 a month seeing who i want to see not just every guy that calls and says he has the money.

We are women, not products, we are people with feelings just like you, and just because you put a little money on our nightstand does not give you the right to be a jerk

The original post was not about bad service or bad looks but about a guy seeing photos, KNOWING her size, seeing her anyway, and then trashing her because of it.

Seems the equivalent thing would be for a provider to see a guy of a certain race, knowing he is of that race, and then give him bad referrals because of his race.

When the guy complains she can tell him "Referrals are for providers by providers.  If you don't like what she says, too bad.", and "you need some thicker skin".

Reviews by dumb jerks who see a provider knowing she is not to his liking (or how don't do their homework) and then write trashing reviews ruin her livlyhood.  Same as her ruining your rep with someone you want to see.

Just to be a dick and talk shit afterwards. What's the fucking point?

I have my tastes, and adhere to them. Sometimes the 'envelope' is a factor, but I do my homework and have many wonderful times with women in my budget and my tastes.

And as far as reviews are concerned, I'm MORE than positive that any of the ladies that I've reviewed will tell anyone that I left out some shit!

Those are things between her and I and are noone's fucking business!

I love that phrase: "people not products." Since you are using an alias so I can't credit you, I'm going to steal it at some point.

Unfortunately, reviews are purely subjective and purely the opinion of that gentleman.  Please don't let reviews define you in what you do well.  xoxo

Like one review I read said her hair smelled musty, but that was OK because he wasn't going to fuck her hair. Sorry, but that made me laugh.

But I agree that there's no need for unnecessary rudeness.

the RACE card tonight!  Geeze, I am so sick of hearing, when a shortcoming is pointed out, for whatever reason, that it is racist!!!  What actually did you see in these reviews???

"Well, I thought this session was going to be better, turns out she was to damn lazy to do anything I liked!  Probably because she was a black/asian mix, and even though I hate them with a passion, I thought I would spend $400 just so I could write a review full of racial comments and slurs"

Give it a rest!  That shit's getting old!
In fact, I think the TER community is totally the
opposite!  I have seen ladies of all makes and models.  I love 'em!  If I'm dissatisfied in any way, it had nothing to do with her race, it was her performance. If she's grossly different than her pics, I point it out. Again NOT because of her race, but because she's a liar!

Stop trying to turn everyone into a bigot.  Fact of the matter is, those who spend all of their time and energy pointing out bigots, are usually very racist themselves!

Your problem is your problem because you have a problem with reality. There is always, the good, bad and the ugly on this earth we live in and people see it as such.

The planet you live in may be filled with gutless ass kissers and white knights. Please do stay there.

The real problem with reviews are, it is embellished beyond belief and written after seeing porn as a fantasy.

Stay with the truth and loose the "alias".

Quoted or mis-quoted, it does not matter that much to me, when a provider uses an alias.

As you should know both sexes can uses aliases and be imposter's. I see your point, no problem.

Intentionally see a provider that is not to their liking. Hello!
It's called a surprise when the clothes come off.
If you take some time to read up on some reviews and do a board search you will see it for yourself.
The OP pulling the race card also shows her lack of maturity and disposition.

Are you sure you want to shine your armor for her, or will you just WK blindly going forward?

Great, so if I have a business transaction with you I can then trash your rep?  It is a TWO WAY transaction with each side getting what it wants.  Quit your pampas attitude that a few dollars changes the other person into a subhuman.

But I do have to apologize.  I didn't realize you know who this provider is.  You know what her photos look like.  You know who the guy is who wrote the review in question.  Now you also know that in this case it was the case of the "deceptive clothes in the photo".  Wow, why didn't I see that just because that was not in the OP.  But again, you have insider info.  I've seen guys complain that "her clothes hid the rolls of fat" when the provider was completely undressed and clearly visible, but their little head did their thinking and they should have made a different choice if they didn't like her looks.  But a macho guy (as it also seems you are) can't admit any such thing.

How foolish of me not to know that.  What other way could you have of knowing all this?  But it sounds like you don't need to know facts to come up with your conclusion.  You know every provider lies through her teeth and every guy is a bastion of truth.  If they ever disagree he is right by definition, even if he's wrong.

Without knowing the review in question you are certain such a nice guy would never talk race in the review, and never in a derogatory way.  She must be lying about that just because.

And as expected you didn't bother to reply to the substance of my post.  It was uncomfortable.  You didn't want to address it so whip out the "WK" defense.  That lets you ignore all logic, right?  I do not have your x-ray vision so I don't know who the people involved are so I don't know who is truthful or not so I didn't comment on that.  I commented on what the OP said.

I have no need to WK a provider I will probably never see and wouldn't know if I did.  I just tend to react negatively to misogynist comments, illogic, and stupidity.

Your posts make you seem indignant to those lesser mortals around you.  Where do you hide your Superman cape?

unlike your weak-kneed ploy.

and, it's been interesting to read all that has been introduced into since then. Like you say, no need to be rude, and also, no need to be dishonest in reviews. What's so hard about that.

Yeah Matt, it must be me.  To be fair, he does have eight posts here, so it's not like they're all bad.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=383031&boardID=12&page=

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=382779&BoardID=12

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=383028&BoardID=12

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=383031&BoardID=12

I can’t tell you where the superman cape is since I do not have one.  Mostly I was just replying in kind to the person ahead of me who started spewing.

When I see a thoughtful post that catches my attention enough to reply I will almost always reply in a thoughtful and respectful manner, whether or not I agree with the point the other poster made.

When I the post is instead rude and derogatory I almost always react by pointing out that it is rude, derogatory, and usually stupid.

Take the 4 posts of mine you reference:  one was a duplicate link so that leaves three.  Each was a reply, and here is what I was replying to:

“You made me sneeze several times there alfalfa..
Posted by Allergic_To_Stupid, 4/25/2010 6:32:17 AM  
What part of minding your own business don't you understand?”

“I R not rude
Posted by I_like_seeing_dads_nuts, 4/24/2010 9:12:24 AM  
A guy that would rather leave home to see a hooker than his daughter who came to town is a piece of shit in my book….. Maybe EWE are the rude one.”

“It's called sarcasm, fucknut (eom)
Posted by I_like_seeing_dads_nuts, 4/24/2010 11:56:00 PM  “


So was I the one who raised their voice and started the shouting/angry diatribe or should your comment be addressed to Allergic_To_Stupid and I_like_seeing_dads_nuts?

I think you hit the nail firmly on the head with this post. I don't read my reviews and nor to I care to.

well said.