So the transition was EASY!!! Instead of me picking, they pick now. As long as the gent is respectful and truly ready(showered, fresh, and ready to have a hot time) to play then I have a great time too. It is the pushy, nasty, stinky guys that thank goodness are infrequent that make you wonder about your life choices.
Just because we get on our backs doesn't mean we are messed up. That would be like saying because you all visit us you are, which is WRONG!! Some of us are wired differently so that our thoughts on sex are less emotional connection and more primal. That is where you find a great provider who is with you because she wants to and not because of another predisposed reason. As well, by the by, some of us are actually educated yet we CHOOSE to do this.
I've had 3 well known madams, and many Indy providers admit that virtually all girls in the biz fall in one of the above categories. This quote I've heard more than 20 times with only slight variations from providers and madams........
"We're all fucked up in the head mentally, psychologically , or emotionally, or we couldn't suck some ugly stranger's dick off the streets who happens to have cash in his pocket".
I'm sure that it's also not true. I can't think of any examples of providers that don't fit the bill, but there has to be one or two out there. Perhaps we should line them all up and fuck, er I mean, interview our way through the group to find if my needle goes into her haystack.
I have some experience in this stuff too. More than I care to admit. As more than one provider and madams told me--- "you have to be fucked up in the head to suck nasty stranger's cocks and fuck old men" --- the sugar coated shit you read from providers is Bullshit. I love to fuck, but does anyone buy that bullshit???
So the transition was EASY!!! Instead of me picking, they pick now. As long as the gent is respectful and truly ready(showered, fresh, and ready to have a hot time) to play then I have a great time too. It is the pushy, nasty, stinky guys that thank goodness are infrequent that make you wonder about your life choices.
Just because we get on our backs doesn't mean we are messed up. That would be like saying because you all visit us you are, which is WRONG!! Some of us are wired differently so that our thoughts on sex are less emotional connection and more primal. That is where you find a great provider who is with you because she wants to and not because of another predisposed reason. As well, by the by, some of us are actually educated yet we CHOOSE to do this.
Right? Well said Sage. It's difficult for some to perceive that some of us are in it for the diverse experiences, the fun, the fact that the act of it is one of our favorite past-times, & it's not our fault the demand is there for our opportunity. And if they could do it, they would. But if we are (some people are still judging entire groups based on their stereo-type?)all messed up as they say we are, then what does that make of the characters of those who choose to see us? The same? Gluttons? Hypocrites? Desperate? Dangerous? Idiots?
Yes, you will find all of those things in any occupation (lawyers, bankers, convenience store clerks) if you look. However, after eight years of heavily networking with my peers, and four years of attending relevant sex worker conferences and events, participating with SWOP-USA and other sex worker rights organizations, and hosting many of my own sex worker "just for the hell of it" socials... I would have to say I've seen no more craziness here than in the general population.
Perhaps it's just that I'm more particular than you in the company I keep?
Even if you could prove that providers are more often in these catagories (And I'm not saying they are.), the fact that they are earning money from a useful (if illegal) occupation rather than being a drain on society is plenty good reason to leave them alone and not brand them as social deviants or worse.
As I pointed out above, you'll find more social deviancy in the halls of our government instituions, board rooms, and anywhere else where the public can be screwed in a bad way.
Send someone to Madiba , and he'll come up with a dozen diagnosis. No one I have ever met are "normal"... At some point in their lives, they get depressed or troubled and have to work through difficult times, they also get drunk and neurotic at times. I find it hard to define what's normal because you send a dozen 'normal' dudes to a shrink, the shrink will no doubt find SOMETHING wrong with that person. (This was an actual study, not my opinion)
I think it was 2pac who said "we all be ho's"... selling something we have for money.
I will however say that, If I was a girl and I provided, I'd limit myself to seeing only great guys like myself. No girl has ever gone wrong with a nice guy like me. Nope. Never..
Oh..through the years I have encountered ladies that fit in all of your categories , but over all I do not think your comment is true. At least when it comes to highly rated TER babes. Sure...after a session with me many do resort to drug and alcohol abuse as a coping mechanism , but that is to be understood!
in one way or another, one level or another. As for the other categories, that's possible. I've met some screwed up people. I think there is a minority that is rather well-adjusted and like the job; but most women do this out of economic necessity. Maybe that's what makes them psycho, sucking the dicks of ugly strangers.
I have encountered many providers who believed mistakenly that they are "crazy".
Feeling powerful emotions that seem to be an overreaction does not constitute "craziness". All that was happening with most of these women was that they were thinking in ways that were distorted and inaccurate, and feeling powerful negative emotions as a result of their inaccurate or exaggerated beliefs.
The solution is to address the distorted thinking patterns and the inaccurate beliefs, either with the help of someone else (a therapist or a friend), or on your own with the help of a good book with a CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy) orientation.
Needless to say, this applies to clients of provider as well.
Posted By: Oh_No_Not_Again
I've had 3 well known madams, and many Indy providers admit that virtually all girls in the biz fall in one of the above categories. This quote I've heard more than 20 times with only slight variations from providers and madams........
"We're all fucked up in the head mentally, psychologically , or emotionally, or we couldn't suck some ugly stranger's dick off the streets who happens to have cash in his pocket".
thanks for the indepth psycho analysis... but "Feeling powerful emotions that seem to be an overreaction does not constitute "craziness"."
No shit, I didn't know that? It seemed to be an overreaction so of course it can't be craziness.
"The solution is to address the distorted thinking patterns and the inaccurate beliefs."
No way, really?.... I would have never thought of that. Address the problem to fix the problem.... Dayum doc, that was so insightful. I'll be sure to keep that in mind next time.
Who gives a fuck what some imaginary character in your head said?
Tomorrow it will be "MOST johns are fat ugly bastards who can't get laid". Wednesday its going to be "MANY providers have told me [insert something else stupid]"
No one cares about your miserable cartoonish take on this biz.
because i am bi polar and it gives me access to nitrous. also, i masturbate after each session because i get "tingly" inflicting pain. very normal for dentists. i am glad i am normal. i will NOT pull anyone's teeth for free!
Here's proff, I will talk about something off topic.
I witnessed a young street walker the other night. Standing on the corner eating a bag of doritos. Thought to my self why would I wan't to fuck around with a girl who has dorito breath.
Many of the guys I see are WAYYYYYY out of my league. Far hotter, more educated, and richer than me, and better than I could have in real life.
Even the guys who are overweight or less attractive are still nice guys, clean, and polite. Unless you're a provider, you really have no idea what you are talking about.
I've met just as many (if not more) down-to-earth, sane, non drug-using, 'rational' and very intelligent sex workers as I've met crazies.
Men who level the 'crazy' insult at groups of women tend to have emotional problems themselves, or at least a hearty dose of general angst. People who are emotionally mature and level-headed tend to attract similar folk, and vice versa... perhaps you and your 'madams' should do some self-reflection.
But not "lock me up in a psych ward" crazy. More of a "cute" crazy.
Fucked up in the head? No. There are ways of avoiding that. Not every provider gets beaten, raped, robbed, etc. Some of us are pretty freakin happy, successful, well rounded people believe it or not.
prostitutes, you do have to think that it takes someone a little on the fringe to be able to handle this kind of risky work. It is also absolutely true for the clients as well, me notwithstanding, and I'm sure the OP too. You have to be some kind of nuts to risk arrest and fucking your life over (if you have a high profile career that would get ruined and you're married with kids and have friends and extended family that would tear you to shreds if discovered) to get into this.
But on the other hand, sanity is boring and depressing.
...than admit there are intelligent, well educated women who have chosen to take charge of their sexuality in a way that most women are afraid to; AND make a living while doing so. That puts women in a power role than some men are very uncomfortable with... so those types like to think of us as "stuck" or "desperate" or that we "don't have the skills to keep another job", and then ridicule our income (that is in some cases higher than theirs) by saying we blow it all buying shoes and purses )
But I have to wonder: if those certain types of men who are so afraid of a sexually powerful woman that they must label her a "victim" in one sense or another in order to be comfortable with paying her for sex, are they actually comfortable patronizing someone they consider a victim? They would, in essence, be further victimizing that woman by their own definition.
(Is this where I'm supposed to have an alias, so I don't have to be responsible for what I just posted?
not many people succeed as entrepreneurs, so in particular, the independents impress me. i don't know about all the psycho-babble shit, because i tend to be a little crazy myself.
Well, although I have met my fair share of civvies that are some or all of the above, personally, I am none, & would think that most well-reivewed ladies aren't either. No drugs, alcohol, or even prescriptions for me personally... just iced coffee, lol.
As far as the "bi-polar, depression, or other psychotic conditions", that has to do w/an influx of over prescribing that has become a national trend. People see the commercials or advertisements of a new medication, see that they fit some of the symptoms & ask their doctor about it. Doctors are so over worked, that instead of actually taking the time to diagnosis & see what's really wrong, they just whip out the prescription pad( yea, doing a paper for one of my college classes & this was my topic, so it's actually be proven & some docs have admitted to it).
The reason people point fingers at providers, is that their more commonly seen in a one-on-one position, so they are more easily critiqued.
Posted By: Oh_No_Not_Again
I've had 3 well known madams, and many Indy providers admit that virtually all girls in the biz fall in one of the above categories. This quote I've heard more than 20 times with only slight variations from providers and madams........
"We're all fucked up in the head mentally, psychologically , or emotionally, or we couldn't suck some ugly stranger's dick off the streets who happens to have cash in his pocket".
i know of several ladies in the business who are quite sane and have relatively healthy lifestyles. there do seem to be a higher proportion of folks with issues in the hobby ON BOTH SIDES of the envelope.
If you randomly picked non-reviewed providers from some of the common sites, I think you would find a greater percentage of women with issues. Clearly not all. That's an overstatement.
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