I've heard of prostitutes asking for the hat to be passed around at M&Gs to help some poor prostitute. I read about the prostitutes begging for loans so they don't get kicked out of their apartments.
Why are so many of the prostitutes always in financial distress? I surmise that most of the prostitutes are really poor money managers. But I'm sure they have plenty of shoes."I hate you. Don't leave me."
Why are so many of the prostitutes always in financial distress?
I surmise that most of the prostitutes are really poor money managers. But I'm sure they have plenty of shoes.
And most need a man to take care of them.
Men are the ones with money. That's why they can afford to pay prostitutes.
But you didn't answer my question either. Care to?
she clearly stated that it seems you need prostitutes to take care of you. Psychological, get it? Not the money thing.
You are slipping at post redirection.
some just can't seem to resist the urge to spend. But I know others who are paying off student loans (or graduating debt free) & saving for a rainy day.
I think it's unfair to paint with a broad brush.
But what about the long time pros that have been at this game for years, and often decades.
The young kids get in and get out. Just a blip on the radar screen.
I read about prostitutes who have been at this forever and have nothing to show for years of spreading their legs. I don't believe that a 40 year old prostitute is still paying off student loans. And even less likely that the 50 year old prostitutes are either.
Just seems like a vicious circle to me.
I think it's unfair to paint with a broad brush.
It doesn't have to be that they manage their budget poorly. It's just means their income cannot cover their expenses.
Just like I mentioned in the other post, all they have to do is raise their income. They can raise their income by raising their sale volume. They can raise their sale volume by discounting price.
Basic marketing concept that companies large and small in real life understand. Even prestigious brands like Macys, BMW, Nike... have sale, discount, rebate, etc. to spur sale when business is slow.
Unfortunately a lot of escorts operate on "pride" and not real life marketing principles
projecting your own thoughts and actions onto others you look down upon...
Don't fret. Some people's egos need someone else to look down upon in order to be fed and create that feeling of superiority.
It's because this question falls into the category of "rhetorical question". It's like asking "why do you want to be rich/beautiful?" or "why do you like sex?" or "why are criminals in jail?"...
BY DEFAULT AND/OR BY DEFINITION women choose this sex work because they DESPERATELY need money.
They wouldn't be doing this if they are financially secure wouldn't they?
You maybe confusing as to which came first the chicken or the egg.
PS: As an aside if they are desperately short on cash it's their own making. It's because they fail to grasp basic marketing concept: when business is slow one needs to run specials or discounts. Unlike a store that can't afford to sell below wholesale lest it loses money an escort almost NEVER lose money. It is because their overhead is fairly low and can always be minimized. The wholesale cost of their time is ZERO so almost at any price their income is already profit
If someone who is paid for his or her time discounts the rate, it becomes difficult to raise rates again with the customers who paid the lower rates. Another risk is attracting bottom feeders who only buy price.
There are a couple of possibilities here. One is that only financially desperate ladies will agree to see you. Another is that you prefer to patronize ladies who will negotiate their rates when financially desperate. Bottom line, the answer probably lies within he who asks.
Maybe you don't read boards like this often. I don't know, or perhaps your reading skills are limited?
I'm guessing that your ad hominem is a direct result of your poor financial lot in life.
Hence, the exact reason for my OP.
Your reply is summarily dismissed. I'm sorry.
Saucy little thing aren't you? Kudos, though, for your use of 'ad hominem'.
Do you find yourself seeing many financially desperate ladies? Do you negotiate with them, recognizing their desperation? Are you part of the problem?
you are amazing
trying to confuse him with logic. It will never register. After all he is far from being overburdened with intelligence.
The sole purpose of his posts is to get a reaction. We shouldn't expect him to put any thought into his posts.
He is in a category all by himself. If his posts were serious we would all feel sorry for him. Since they are not, we all realize what a depraved individual he is.
Huh?? He's NOT being serious? Oh man...I'm duped yet again.
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1st off, SHIT HAPPENS...
Kids cost HUGE $ and many baby daddies pay nothing or next to none.
Expenses, we have to pay for our accommodations. Sure some like me have set locals but we have to pay for it if we use it or not. If we only have 2 appts that week we still have to pay full rent. Likewise if the week is slow and we have to get hotels for those 2 appts, 1hr each different days say a 350 lady makes that 700 but had to pay 200 for hotels... Well.... I have heard of ladies having dry spells of not having guests for several weeks. Trust me, most of us are NOT seeing multiples in most days.
Getting back to the shit happens.... The collections I have heard of have been for ladies who are unable to work and have run out their savings. Ladies who got cancer, had to have emergency surgeries and similar. This includes ladies who have been beaten, raped, and damaged....
the thought that we have tons of purses and shoes is stupid, many of us are just trying to get by and save a little for our future retirement. Others even into their late 40's going back to school to get new degree's so thinking that an older lady paying student bills is out of touch. As well, we pay for our kids furthering education as well.
Open your mind, there is alot more going on then just what you think.... Try asking, I would if and when my $ goes somewhere other then my bag. If I am helping then I deserve to know why and what I am helping with
The only reason we keep you around is that you are fun to laugh at.
True is may not be right to laugh at one who is intellectually, mentally, and emotionally totally fucked up like you but it is a lot of fucking fun.
You're welcome
2016 = 28
some girls assume that they can do it forever and there is always be a revenue stream...that is not how the real world works unless you are a trust fund kid or own a perpetuity or navie sugar daddy from sa with really deep pockets willing to buy your sob stories...shit happens, one has to always plan for rainy day...
also,in this industry guys like fresh meat, at first you are hot till new girls pop out on a scene ...while there seem to be a quite a few successful mature providers in this industry...nobody really has the real data of how much they make in comparison to much younger girls...i might get some rage for this comment from certain people but it is my opinion and was not trying to be mean... i do not think i will be getting that many gigs 20 years from now because men are visual creatures for the most part and looks are important...
and being a member of TER since 2005. I know you are a PYT and just can't imagine how the "old broads" make bank here but it's not that difficult if you know what you are doing. Rebranding ad knowing your niche and demographics of your client base. I did get into this world later than you obviously.
It's kinda like bring 20 and not being able to imagine being over 40. Be when you are there you realize you were just too young to get it back then. 
Steph xox
Not ALL men, or women such as myself prefer "fresh young meat" or providers under a certain age, my husband and i prefer the over 30 ladies because they are established, they are mature, the usually actually enjoy what they are doing as they are NOT only in it for the money, i want someone that can actually talk to me about more that just partying and or their next fix of whatever they are into.......and looks are not everything either, im more of a personality kinda girl.
also,in this industry guys like fresh meat, at first you are hot till new girls pop out on a scene ...while there seem to be a quite a few successful mature providers in this industry...nobody really has the real data of how much they make in comparison to much younger girls...i might get some rage for this comment from certain people but it is my opinion and was not trying to be mean... i do not think i will be getting that many gigs 20 years from now because men are visual creatures for the most part and looks are important...
Thanks for the thoughtful post. You will get no argument from me.
Most of the young ones squander all their money on LV handbags, jimmy choo shoes , fancy cars, expensive apartments and in some cases drugs.
Even if they have a new degree it won't help them at 35+ since they have gaps in employment and at that age experience is more important than degrees.
After a certain age (pushing 40) the big money calls no longer come. They find themselves giving more services (BB** as part of SD arrangements) or having to lower their price. Sure they can airbrush their pictures and put up a brave front with their web pages and high prices but few are making the kind of money they were when they were young.
Most of these girls are the last to know when it's time to quit. Others can't quit for a variety of reasons.
Some girls really do pray for a rich sugar daddy or any guy who can afford to take them away from it all. Sometimes they retire and are forced to make humiliating past prime comebacks.
I would call it a rags to riches to rags cycle. Exit strategy, my ass! Most came into the life broke and most will leave broke
...but there's some truth there.
Most of the young ones squander all their money on LV handbags, jimmy choo shoes , fancy cars, expensive apartments and in some cases drugs.
Even if they have a new degree it won't help them at 35+ since they have gaps in employment and at that age experience is more important than degrees.
After a certain age (pushing 40) the big money calls no longer come. They find themselves giving more services (BB** as part of SD arrangements) or having to lower their price. Sure they can airbrush their pictures and put up a brave front with their web pages and high prices but few are making the kind of money they were when they were young.
Most of these girls are the last to know when it's time to quit. Others can't quit for a variety of reasons.
Some girls really do pray for a rich sugar daddy or any guy who can afford to take them away from it all. Sometimes they retire and are forced to make humiliating past prime comebacks.
I would call it a rags to riches to rags cycle. Exit strategy, my ass! Most came into the life broke and most will leave broke.
Most of the young ones squander all their money on LV handbags, jimmy choo shoes , fancy cars, expensive apartments and in some cases drugs.
Even if they have a new degree it won't help them at 35+ since they have gaps in employment and at that age experience is more important than degrees.
After a certain age (pushing 40) the big money calls no longer come. They find themselves giving more services (BB** as part of SD arrangements) or having to lower their price. Sure they can airbrush their pictures and put up a brave front with their web pages and high prices but few are making the kind of money they were when they were young.
Most of these girls are the last to know when it's time to quit. Others can't quit for a variety of reasons.
Some girls really do pray for a rich sugar daddy or any guy who can afford to take them away from it all. Sometimes they retire and are forced to make humiliating past prime comebacks.
I would call it a rags to riches to rags cycle. Exit strategy, my ass! Most came into the life broke and most will leave broke.
Others transition into FBSM where for 200-250 they offer massages with a BBBJTC-CIM finish. At 200 a session with blowjob finishes they become higher volume because it's easier to do and the lower prices bring more guys in.
The big money calls for something like an executive around 45 who wants an escort at 1500 to accompany him to the company party seldom happen after a certain age. A guy might not want the 22 year old for a business function but will pick the 30 year old long before the 40 year old.
Many will try to keep up the charade by lying about their age but guys are not blind. If a girl does not have a way to completely exit by 35 or so she will never fully leave sex work
I simply have never made enough to support myself. I'm lucky if I see 1 client per week. At my rate that's just $1000 a month. I've been a escort for a decade , on and off. I've taken multiple years off while I was in a relationship and he didn't want me to escort. I also took time off while I attended college and I lived on campus. I've never been high volume, I just do this for the extra cash, but it's not enough extra cash to get ahead and save much.
I just started back in this business 2 weeks ago after taking years off. I have not seen a client yet because I just had emergency surgery to remove my gall bladder last weekend.
The reason I'm getting back into the business is to save money for gastric bypass surgery.
SBs are far worse IMO
Why are so many of the prostitutes always in financial distress?
I surmise that most of the prostitutes are really poor money managers. But I'm sure they have plenty of shoes.
In fact, I have dozens of fake Loubie knock-offs that I barter for free food at Red Lobster, Outback and Chili's.
It's Lobster month! And Bloomin' Onion month! Always! Good eatz!
Thank god for Lipitor!
I have incredible budget and money management skills, And a business.
No I do not waste my money on designer shoes, I rather pay for a vacation somewhere exotic than waste it on shoes that will collect dust.
I pay all my bills on time, have amazing credit while still balancing my student loans.
For those women who don't have good money management skills: write shit down and take it out of what you made that week. Because thousands a week are not always promised, and have a backup side job or something if you don't make enough from this.
don't believe what you hear or read about and only half of what you see, let's hear about your personal experience with what you seem to consider lower life forms
Why are so many of the prostitutes always in financial distress?
I surmise that most of the prostitutes are really poor money managers. But I'm sure they have plenty of shoes.
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I just got a text this morning that said, "Come See me. I miss you!"
Then a follow up text that said, "Honestly I could really use any type of contribution to my funds. I have $2 and don't know what to do."
Why are so many of the prostitutes always in financial distress?
I surmise that most of the prostitutes are really poor money managers. But I'm sure they have plenty of shoes.
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Just like in the civvie world you have hot young women with low self esteem and daddy issues. lol
and then there are the sugar babies who have had the bar set so low that they are eager to hop into bed just because you splurged on a decent meal for them, rather than taking them to the Golden Corral for your "date" I actually had that happen this week. I took an SB out for a nice dinner on our first "date" and she was so happy about how nice i treated her that she never once asked for any sugar. She must still be happy as we have plans to do it again. I guess I should ask Dunphy if I should insist on giving her some money this time? lol
This is what think and I may be wrong , when you get in a relationship and stop working you start spending money from your saving account. Also a lot of us will not go and look for a job that pay minimum wage it just doesn't make sense to me to go to work and make the whole week what I can make in an hour . Also some escort I think saved money to open a business and the business didn't work at expected.
I am not going to mention Providers that spend all their money in drugs because I have never met one.
But I don't think that all providers are broke some of them are really successful and have real estate and businesses. I think you have to be focused and know why you started this job on the first place and keep your goal in mind.
are broke for the same reason most people are broke. I work with may technically trained people in health care and they are under paid and often broke. I often find an excuse to give money gifts to people who work with me because they are broke: a husband who has lost a job, a car break down.
Somewhat higher up on the scale, many well paid professionals are, well into their thirties, still paying off usurous student loans (don't get me started on what thievery that is.) Unfortunately, many people simply do not make enough money to cover down turns or sudden expenses.
I do know a number of providers who prepared well for their futures and are careful to put money away.
I live in a wealthy neighborhood and many of our neighbors are professional athletes. Once of my daughters works with pro athletes. It turns out that many of them, particular it seems pro basket ball players who earn more than the budget of a small country, often find themselves broke.
Finally I, a triple boarded physician, found myself scrambling after a divorce to try to hang on to my house as I had custody of my children and this was their home. I was traveling around the country giving well paid lectures in my "spare" time to keep the house and keep the kids in private school. I limited all not needed spending and accepted speaking engagements all over the country often red eying it back so I could make work the next AM. This went on for a few years.
Even Donald Trump has declared bankruptcy a few times.
Any broke providers join a very large club.
but there is a more elaborate answer that is eloquently expressed in this tasteful educational bit of docu-drama:
(Starts at 3 minutes.)
That's great and very true...
Getting a decent amount of money (a few hours work and after expenses.. at least $600).. and maybe on the way home, the mood strikes and a stop is made somewhere and poof.. it's down by $300 and so on..
I had the pleasure of getting to know a provider pretty well... she had well over 200 reviews.. going to her house was amazing because of the stuff she had.. crazy stuff.. nice stuff.. but lot & lots of stuff.. another Hobbyist here that I am friendly with also saw her.. He described her house as similar to going to a flea market because of all of the stuff..
I have marveled at a provider who hits the scene and is very popular and then a year later is complaining because no one is calling her and she is broke.. and yet so many seem to keep busy because they work at it.. and those that are, approach it professionally .. on time.. look great.. do a good job.. the girl that complains about no work.. when I see her a year later.. suddenly seems to be distracted.. in a hurry.. and is walking through the appointment.. with little interest.. I probably won't be back and will move onto a new provider who is interested and is not taking things for granted.. yet.. so there can be longevity.. but like anything else it's not easy.. nothing worthwhile is..
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I give it an 8.5...
Both on appearance and performance.
As usual I only give BBFS about a 4 on appearance, his troll posts are usually droll and predictable and this one was no exception, but like you I have to give him a solid 8 in performance because just like a fat fifty year old hooker, somehow he still manages to get a rise out of the crowd almost every time. Which just like an OTHFB speaks more to the audience than to his skills as a troll. but you can't argue with success I suppose.
...and only gave it a 5.5...
And the crowd...goes wild...
Oh, yes - to masturbate one's own grandiosity as a supreme being in the land of the trolls.
It isn't just a provider thing. Sad truth is most Americans live paycheck to paycheck and have little or no money set up for life's little emergencies let alone a major one. This problem is exasperated when the money tends be feast or famine like sex work. And it is further exasperated by not having any form of health insurance as many sex workers among others just don't. This is true for most Americans sadly. I blame the fact a majority of states don't require any form of personal finance class so many are never taught how to live on a budget and plan for hardships. It isn't just a sexual service provider issue
