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So you'd rather "be gutted in a place" you ARE familiar with?
JakeFromStateFarm 85 reads
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In other words, you can just as easily get killed in New York by going to the wrong place at the wrong time.  Some of us have learned how to do that south of the border.  I'll soon be making plans to go back and I'm not worried.
It's pretty simple:
1) Don't walk on the beach at night.
2) Use cabs at night.
3) Keep your passport locked in your room safe.
4) Keep large sums of cash in the safe, too.
5) If anyone comes at you, shove GaGa at them, point at him and yell, "Rolex!  Rolex!"

What percentage of the time do you go into an appointment with a "new to you" lady (that you've found from a reputable source whether it's reviews, P411, twitter, etc. some background) and the idea of being fearful for your safety passes your mind?

The argument that I as a provider am melodramatic for citing my personal safety as a concern struck me as one of those things that men just can't possibly understand. Like women are continually aware of any man around them and the possibility of violence/struggle/being overpowered...why would that dynamic be different in a scenario as delicate as the one that unfolds behind closed doors?

So again, men, how often are you scared of physical harm when meeting a new provider?

but I do remember this time in Cartagena Colombia where we pulled up to this "casa" in one of the really bad barrios in the "historical section" of town and there was a guy out front providing "security" for the place carrying an AK 47.  

 

Yes, i was scared for my life, but it was too late by then and I would much rather go out between the legs of some Colombiana hottie than sniveling in the back seat of a taxi cab. So i put my Rolex in my pocket and said to my running buddy "God hates a coward" and we proceeded to have one of the best nights in my life.

tomf30156 reads

My driver dropped me at my hotel and said"Do not go ANYWHERE without me, if you want a Coke or a pack of cigarettes from across the street you call me and I'll bring them to you.

For the last ten years or so, except in some of the rougher "zonas" Colombia has been rather safe to visit. However that is pretty much the same advice I got the last time I went to Venezuela.

 
If this was any time in the 21st century I hope you didn't listen to him as you most likely missed out on a LOT of fun. Traveling to Bogota, Cali or Medellin is like traveling to any city where there is crime, you do need to take care, but you can't let fear paralyze you, but then again if I were headed to Caracas tomorrow, I kind of doubt I would be planning on doing much partying. lol

between men's and women's experience of the world. Having a wife, then daughters, and women friends along the way helped, but it still took awhile before I got it.

 
So, no, while I've been nervous about various things when meeting a new provider, I don't think I've ever been scared of physical harm.  I think learning to understand this dynamic, to some small degree, from a woman's point of view has made me a little more conscious about trying to put new providers at ease.

Before the internet I met a lady on the streets of DC (yes a true streetwalker).  We got in my car and went to her place in NE DC.  I got out of the car and was opening the door for her when a guy put a gun in my back and said, "gimme your wallet."  I handed it to the guy and he ran off.  Luckily, I had gotten into the practice of having a hobby wallet with nothing but my cash in it.  It was a bummer for the night but I got out of there with my life and he didn't want my car, so I was good.

Always check your surroundings.

NE D.C.? Neighborhood has really gone down hill.

And I do understand why providers have to worry about theirs.  So, no, you are not melodramatic, depending on what you do to enhance your safety.
But once in Jaco I was accosted by two street girls who were really pickpockets.  One even reached into my pocket pretending to grab my cock and pulled out a wad of a couple of hundred dollars worth of colones. I shoved my hand down the back of her pants and pulled most of it out of her ass.  She didn't like it.
From then on I never walked back to my place.  Much smarter to take a cab when it's barely more than a dollar US.

It has only gotten worse by the Co Cal in Jaco.  

 
People are getting robbed at gun point both on the beach right off of the "smoking area" and on the street leading away from the Co Cal of late. The actual grounds of the Co Cal are still safe, but street crime virtually every where else in Jaco is at an all time high.  Have fun, but be VERY careful when in Costa Rica

HappyChanges72 reads

The last thing I need is to gutted in a place I'm not familiar with.  Just doesn't seem as fun when you have to worry.

In other words, you can just as easily get killed in New York by going to the wrong place at the wrong time.  Some of us have learned how to do that south of the border.  I'll soon be making plans to go back and I'm not worried.
It's pretty simple:
1) Don't walk on the beach at night.
2) Use cabs at night.
3) Keep your passport locked in your room safe.
4) Keep large sums of cash in the safe, too.
5) If anyone comes at you, shove GaGa at them, point at him and yell, "Rolex!  Rolex!"

Don't really "gut" you, they just harvest your organs.  Its a legit medical procedure usually done by an ex-doctor or medical student.  You will have no chance of infection afterward.  

tomf30148 reads

I hear its pretty dicey at night. We would stay at The Sportsman Lodge and walk to Hotel Del Ray & Casino. The park between the two has a bad rep after dark

I sometimes SMH when I can tell that men don't get that.  I am always conscious that women correctly can have real fear of being hurt by men. It happens every day.
I will even cross the street if I am behind a woman walking and there are no other people around.

The only time I had a reason to fear women was a long time ago in Australia. I went to a Lesbian bar with a couple of lady friends. It was drunk women hate men night and I was beaten up quite well by a group of women. I couldn't defend myself because every time I went to throw a punch, it was a woman that would have gotten punched. And I can't hit a woman. Just can't.

Anyway, I'm glad you brought this up. Male mongers tend to forget that women have real fear in one on one situations. There are plenty of respectful, kind men but there are very many arseholes in in this world.

That's why real  screening is important.

By letting them tie you up in the first five minutes.  

.... the 2 hour session is up. Tease and denial in the extreme.

It's just my nature to always be ready. Fear not so much but vigilant hell yes...  
regarding "being melodramatic" I call bullshit ... you have every right to be vigilant as well and should be ... never let someone else's opinion get in between you and going home safely

I picked providers with a high enough review number that I figured they were safe. Unless the provider knifed me or pulled a gun on me, I probably could handle a possible physical confrontation. When I hired my first provider, I was more worried about her being a front for either police or some criminals who she would let in to rob me.

but twice I recall situations from a long, long time ago where I got weirded out.

 
The first was a gal who shorted my time time by saying I had to get out before her boyfriend returned.

 
The second time was upon leaving, I noticed a door open a crack, and some guy was in the next room.

My first time I was a little weirded out on how the provider opened the door (her being behind it so you can't see her until the door is closed) but that's about it.

But I am mindful of my surroundings and will look to see if anything looks "out of place" or unusual.  Once I have a location of where I'm going, then I have a good idea of the area.  

But of the lady herself?  Nah, I'm not at all fearful.  

John_Laroche71 reads

The short answer is "no, I never fear for my physical safety when meeting an established escort for the first time."

 
Being a guy, I assume the escort feels the same way (no fear). I assume she's checked my ref's, knows I've been around for more than a few years, etc... so I'm safe to be alone with. I forget that as a woman, it takes longer to let your guard down. Doesn't matter that I only do this (meet someone new) less than once a month, and she meets someone new almost every day.  Louis CK puts it well...

I've never been concerned that a provider was potentially dangerous. I have been concerned about the area in which the encounter took place, but that's rare.  

When I plan and use TER as a tool I have no concerns. On occasion and usually it involves alcohol and impulse I throw caution to the wind via responding to posts or picking up a provider I may meet in my late nights out. In most cases it works out great and my intuition was right with a hint off danger and unknown the makes it more exciting.  A few occasions I was really disappointed and in South Beach I was ruffled and robbed.  I was a trusting, fun loving drunken dumb ass. But I also meet a young Volley Ball player in Vegas at about 4:00 a.m., Jack Pot!  So I do have fear but only because I did not use all the tools at my disposal and embraced the moment.

On a side note I try to share as much info as possible in an effort to increase the ladies who meet me comfort level and enjoyment. Sorry there are so many Dicks out there. But then again the low bar makes me look good.

EzekielKarl50 reads

My first encounter in the hobby was with a very well reviewed, newbie-friendly lady who did an outcall to my place.  I was nervous as hell for a million different reasons, personal safety being one of them.  She turned out to be very pleasant and our session went off without a hitch.  Since then, my concerns when seeing a new provider center mostly on law enforcement and being stood up.  Even these fears have receded as I've gained more experience and learned how to choose reputable ladies.  As with most things, it involved some trial and error, but I've never had a reason to fear for my safety.

...for both parties. My first experience in p4p was at one of the legal bordellos in Nevada, an hour outside of Reno. Part of the reason for my choosing the venue was that, being a public place of business, there was probably a substantially reduced chance of something bad happening for either party.

Yes, there are always risks in any encounter and, now with resources such as TER, it's another way to reduce/mitigate those risks -- reviews, communications with potential playmates, and communications with fellow hobbyists are all ways to gather more info to make a more informed decision.

Sadly, a lot of people live their lives in blissful ignorance, believing nothing bad will ever happen to them -- until it does. So do your research and pay attention, then have fun. Be safe!

souls_harbor46 reads

... my heart.     No, not really. Just kidding.

LV9937 reads

My only use of providers was in Costa Rica.  Now, my dad's from there and I speak Spanish, so might have an advantage.  Even back then, Jaco was getting seedy and didn't use any girl there.  I stuck to the Blue Marlin bar in San Jose, and never had any issues there.  

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