I keep seeing that being used in providers Ads..
what does that mean?
how does that affect a hobbyists decision?
Is there really such a thing?
or is it more of a promotional
"supply and demand?" theory that is used to lure a hobbyist into believing he is with an 'elite provider"
Sorry I may have broke the "off topic.. Amnesty" but It has been on my mind for awhile...

I hope this is a topic that does shed some light onto this "High volume Vs.Low Volume"
great insight appreciated ..and from both providers and hobbyists..
Lovely Lorena

Nobody ever refers to themselves as a high volume provider/escort since guys are not generally attracted to that sort of marketing. Reviews speak for themselves. Do the secret math.

As for 'low volume' yes, in general it is a marketing ploy and only gimmick description much like "GFE". Well what's a GFE? And what is "low volume"?

Many hobbyist have a preconceived idea that most agency girls are in fact high volume when they may not be at all.

If she's high volume and I want to see her I schedule 1hr and make it a quick once n done. Happy Trails. Write the review. Would not consider repeating...

If she's low volume AND concomitant with same treats each client like an event and not a bit or bob on the assembly line then I consider booking a longer date and consider that there may be LTR potential.

I see agency girls for booty calls and well reviewed low volume / high quality providers when I hope for something more.

Just as long as she's cool, great looking, and fantastic in bed.

If I'm gonna pay, she's going to be what I want.

Doesn't matter if she fucks 100 guys or a thousand.

WTF difference does it make anyway? And just because she 'says' she's 'high/low' volume, who the fuck really knows but her?

Just sayin'....

High Volume / Low Volume??  All marketing terminology.  
Clock watcher vs non-rushed...  closer to target.  Have you cum yet?  My roomate's going to come home!

In reality, we want to feel special, unrushed.  Passing the next client is uncool!  

Good providers must be excellant at both skills & time management.  

skb

1. She is overpriced for her skill or appearance.  
2. She has no business due to poor marketing skills, reputation or appearance.
3. She has a real full time job and only escorts on the side.
4. Is in a rural area with few hobbyists.

High volume.
1. Good price point for skill and appearance.
2. Markets herself well and has a good reputation.
3. Escorts full time

... otherwise, the louder they are, the better i like it!

oh wait... you were talking about clients?

Jeez, the term low volume high volume means nothing at all. Might as well say you're wearing a red dress or a blue dress.

Who cares?
Are you freshly bathed?
How good is your rep?
How hot are your pics?
Can you tickle my tonsils with your tongue from the inside?

Wonderful! I'll be right there and we can get nekkid!!

(ok wait Smarty, don't get excited, I was speaking in generic terms, not directed at you. hate to dissapoint

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I was hoping to read some "providers" input but Im  valuing the hobbyists opinions for the honesty..
thanks guys!!
If it counts all opinions by the posters were helpful in my understanding this subject..
Thanks from a grateful(mediocre volume) provider..: )
Lorena

There are many small details of an encounter that in my experience simply do not happen with high volume providers. Period.

Does not mean they are not worth a quick shag. Just means that they are once on dones.

Not every low volume provider is a good experience and not every high volume provider is any less of an experience - over the course of one date, an hour or so.

But I have never yet met a high volume provider who approached a client in a certain way, offered those delightful touches and thoughtful details, that make the difference between a once n done and a lady with LTR potential....

Just sayin '

It's very important to me to be the first client of the day.  With a low-volume provider, I would expect to make an appointment at 11 AM or noon.

If a provider tells me that she would need to see me at 8 AM, I have a fairly good guess she is high volume.

if a lady is seeing more clients than she personally can handle well (which in some cases is 1 lol), it is not just about being rushed, it is about the lady being distracted, not really "present", even a bit distancing, mechanical.

I know when I feel like I'm on an assembly line. The lady then finds herself on *my* assembly line as well lol

I don't mind sport fucking at all

but when I'm looking for something more, someone to repeat with, any sense of the lady exceeding her personal carrying capacity is a one strike deal.

Just another useless term in the hobby. I can't imagine seeing an ad for a lady. "I'm a high volume provider" Reading reviews may give you some idea, but again, when I read the term "low volume" in an ad, it means nothing.

give your client.

Tamara G x

Interestingly, some of the very best providers I've met (9/10s reviewed by clients present in this thread) have told me that they get better as the day goes on- cleanliness, confidence and sexual performance gets tighter client after client.

Providers can be awkward "cold"- but when they warm up and begin to get the intoxication of being a woman sexually desirable to many "sex goddess" mode takes over.

I say that I am low-volume in some advertisements particularly when I'm at home in Boston and only accepting 1-2 guests per day to encourage those who know that they need to have an unrushed encounter and to identify myself as one who is generous with my time.  A one hour appointment *could* become two, a three hour lunch date could become 4 or 5 etc.  
Its just a signal that I have no intention of pushing a guest out at 55 minutes on the hour.

It is not a reference to how many clients I will have during the course of the day.

Clients who insist on being the first of the day or seeing providers who only see one client per day are unrealistic and silly- you haven't any clue of how a provider is scheduling and honestly, if she saw her last client at 1 or 2a, what difference does it make that you're seeing her twelve hours (or less later)?  

Cleanliness and consideration are all that matter- and if you're booking a highly rated companion, chances are she's cognizant of the likelihood of her practices being published for all to see.

I stand by my opinion that volume does make a difference, though "volume" is a relative term.

I am sure some providers somewhere can manage three or four clients a day with exceptional service

but even among extremely highly reviewed providers I know well I try to avoid their busy days. I can tell......

...Not someone who has spent four decades paying for the illusion.

At any rate, I'm not invested in your comments or that of anyone else here- I'm just being honest.

I have a friends who are consistent "10s"(unlike me- providers who are so sexually intuitive with *everyone* that they consistently garner 9-10 performance ratings) who can give a phenomenal session 8 times a day on tour and call me afterwords around 11p or 12a to see if I want to go "party" and pick a stranger up.

Guess what?  The illusion of low-volume (1-4 clients per day) can be maintained by the best of providers.

Young agency providers get worn out and tired.  

Pros?  Real pros? The ones who are so celebrated here on TER? They keep the sheets crisp, the wine chilled, the air fresh and the energy high.

You think you know- but you have no idea.

Volume makes a difference when you're dealing with a victim of circumstance who is doing $100 quickies or getting $180 an hour after agency cut (doing 10 hours per day a la PrimeDC) all day to pay the bills or buy baby's first Balenciaga.  

It makes no difference when you're dealing with an independent who is making $300-$600+ per hour who loves what she does and celebrates this business as a lifestyle, not a livelihood.

The “hobby” is fraught with peril on many levels. Every encounter places the health of both parties at risk, and you are only as healthy as your last encounter, whether we are talking about STD or the flu. The low volume lady and the low volume client for that matter pose a significantly lower risk here.

        LE intervention also rises roughly in proportion to volume. The once a month lady almost never gets busted. The 4 or 5 client a day incall ladies are the preferred LE choice  for surveillance and possibly a sting. Third party intervention risk also rises with volume – the nosy hotel clerk is not clueless when he sees a stream of men visiting the same room.

     Viewing the issue solely from the standpoint of performance is a bit naïve, and obviously would vary with the individuals involved. Certainly, some high volume ladies can still bring their A game late in the day; others are thinking about what’s for dinner. Listen, I don't schedule dental appointment late in the day for that reason.

     From the non-jaded client’s psychological perspective, however, relative exclusivity is a significant extra value and worth paying extra for.

Interesting topic.

I would agree in the grand scheme of things it means absolutely nothing. There are fabulous women at both high, mid and low volume.

I think it's a matter of "companionship philosophy". We each have one, a structured idea of what we expect, what we're willing to give, our theory on the interaction occurring between both parties, and the possibilities. Some women really aren't interested in developing "high maintenance" regulars, and prefer more dates with less personal investment.  

It's safe to assume ladies with higher rates are probably low in volume, only because far fewer are able to afford the rates. Also because many of those who can afford those rates aren't willing to pay that much. However, there is a market of gentlemen who don't mind and joyfully participate, but there isn't a lot of them.  So even if they wanted high volume, they couldn't get it.   What low volume does provide is the occasional one night stand, with steady, long dates with people you know well.  You also likely have to invest in your regulars between your dates - keep in touch, be willing to talk if he's having a rough day, do a little reading in their fields of interest, find ways to keep them engaged the time you share stimulating. With higher rates and longer dates, there comes more expectation. Nothing comes easy.

How much financial independence a lady has also makes a difference in whether or not she is low volume. A lady who has an expectation at 250 doesn't have to see a lot of other people if she's got another source of financial stability.

Some women see 3 guys in a day, some women see 3 guys in a month.  It's a matter of their expectations and lifestyle.

...If I were viewing the issue soley from the standpoint of performance, yes that would indicate naivete.

But given my profile- which you may check for yourself- you can clearly see that I speak from a standpoint of experience.

Your comments about exposure and risk are suggestive- but not conclusive.

When studies have been conducted, juxtaposing the high volume provider v. the low volume provider - let me know, and then we may have a discussion.

Otherwise, your comments are based in assumption.

a primary fallacy of logic typical to discussions between providers and clients.

Demonstrating a total lack of respect for the intelligence and experience of clients

That's okay - I'm a grown up - I can take it!

But my opionion stands.

I hope you say that in a week and a half

Impressed, that is!

How professional she is with scheduling, general communication and on time. It's amazing how many ladies are a box of rocks when it comes to basic communications and logistics. Of course, just as many are fabulous. A sharp lady get my juices going before I even get there...

Then I measure by the usual standards during a session.

I really don't care if either is affected by the volume of her business, IQ, personality or other anything else. In some ways, if she can manage a steady flow of clients and keep the quality up, in my book, then I'm sold.

experience. But the world moves forward each day based on "assumptions" and that is very different from "speculation."

    So I think we both have enough facts to make non-speculative assumptions and that is why we may indeed discuss this without waiting for studies that we both know will never occur.

      The increased health risk, LE risk , and third party risk are all reasonable assumptions that your experience cannot negate. The performance assumption is more speculative and you certainly have the edge there but I hedged that part by saying it varies with the individual.

....Because you refuse to acknowledge that despite all of your "experience" that some degree of this business is illusion.

Obviously, when participating in discussions on a message board, most of us speak in generalities.

I have no doubt that clients encounter issues with high volume providers who are tired after a long days work, hygiene issues, issues of discretion etc.

However, my comments speak to the fact that no matter how experienced a client may think he is, a detail-oriented provider is fully capable of pulling off quite the show (or the illusion of absence of a show) with a client, no matter how many appointments she's had during the course of a day.

You say that I demonstrate a lack of respect for the intelligence of clients to which I say that you demonstrate a total lack of comprehension of the skill of a determined entertainer.

My opinion stands as well.

I don't usually do 8am on principle, and if I did it would only be to accommodate a very good friend who would be instructed to show up with a mocha in hand... but your logic is a broad brush stroke.  Maybe the provider who takes an appointment at 8am does that then takes classes in the afternoon or has other employment.

i agree with lauren, this is a very interesting topic.

i will go out on a limb and say that yes, the number of clients a woman sees, as well as the frequency with which she "entertains," DOES make a difference. this difference may not relate to performance whatsoever, and on that point i agree with Ally. what volume does effect, in my very humble opinion (as the most un-"professional" of providers), is the nature of the relationships fostered.

in my case, i am extremely low volume...meaning i typically see 1 gent a day, or two at the very very maximum, and no more than 4 gents in the course of a month. yes, i said month, lol. that is my own personal comfort level, to go much beyond that would make it impossible for me to provide the level of service that i do, and would also dampen some of the immense joy i find in this.

however, i do not have sky high "exclusive" rates...to the contrary, for my area my rates are lower than average. i also do not fit the mold of "doing this on the side," in that i am a happy homemaker, who actually receives an allowance from my Husband. one of the many unique/odd things about me is that i have no financial needs or drives in this. money serves as both an emotional boundary and a naughty perversion, but nothing more. if my rates were any higher, that naughtiness factor would be lost for me...but i'm perverted that way.

i spend literally hours, over the course of weeks and sometimes months, in correspondence with the men who contact me...BEFORE deciding whether or not to actually see them. i am extremely selective, and endlessly patient. if/when a connection is made, it is not at all unusual for a friend to call me up and the two of us spend 2 or 3 hours just casually shooting the breeze. it is not unusual for us to exchange a couple of fun emails throughout the day. it is not unusual for me to take note of birthdays, favorite foods, favorite things, etc. so that i can do something extra special for him. and this is the nature of my relationship with nearly every gent i see.

it is quite intense, very intimate, and can be very time-consuming. but it is the only way i personally am able to function in this little world. otherwise it would feel very, very dirty to me...and not in the sexy way.

Most correct! It's complexity is a result of the nature of the women who participate.

As your post so wonderfully illustrates, no two women have the same circumstances in our lives, and personalities we need to work with.

The freelancing nature of this business allows each woman to tailor her experience - I think it's laughable to make generalized comments about providers because few things in this world are so diverse!

Oh I totally dig you on the perverted angle, there's a kink in the simple act of being a provider!

I also understand your point about early communication - I prefer to be meeting with a friend for the first time, instead of meeting a stranger.

I also know what you mean about time-consuming between dates and intimate.  Like you, that's what makes this a joyous and natural feeling experience for me.

However, I do understand the other ideas ladies have. It's not about "dirty" and "clean" but what makes you feel good about life at the end of the day, and that's different for each of us.

The idea of high/low volumne is subjective and means very little as to how a session will go, other than as the ladies professionalism and wear/tear extremes may come into play.

When I let gents know that I schedule very few appointments, they know I am not the best lady to call for anything last minute.  I have a very busy life full of other activities and projects.  Depending on the type of sessions requested and what else is going on in my life, a week usually is full with one, three or five sessions a week... when I am booked, I am booked.

Thank you for posting this.  It's a great thread and I love the ideas and insights this has generated.

With Love,
and anticipation of seeing you again soon!
Sola

It’s all subjective.

Personally, this week I saw three clients with the shortest session length being 1.5 hours. While I feel that is low volume, it may be high volume to another. And it really doesn’t matter as long as the provider is able to mentally stay fresh and provide an amazing experience to her friends.

Also, I agree with Ally that for the most part it is all about illusion. Some great providers can make every client feel he is the first one of the day, or at least provide an incredible enough experience to consistently score performance ratings of 9 or greater in addition to cultivating a strong following of repeats and regulars. Illusion. There are some great actresses out there and there’s nothing wrong with recognizing this reality. We are not in “real” life here and as long as you’re having a great time, does it really matter anyway? No. Or at least it shouldn’t matter whether or not it is reality or indeed an illusion. Just enjoy the experience.

There are some excellent touring ladies out there that consistently score well in performance. From my experience, a touring provider has to be high volume to cover the cost of traveling, if her trip is to make a profit. Clearly volume doesn’t matter when considering performance, if we are talking about someone with consistent high ratings. And a smart high volume provider is going to make sure her performance skills are on par so that you never pick up on her being high volume. Why would she want you to think she is high volume when most men will say they prefer low volume? If she is professional and has invested time and effort into offering an exceptional experience as a touring lady, you will walk away feeling she is the best low volume provider ever! Or LTR material.

Now it is reasonable to believe being high volume could potentially increase risk of LE due to having more men to screen, but we shouldn’t assume that always is the case. A smart high volume provider who is diligent about screening is at less risk than a low volume provider with a shady verification process.

Some ladies are low volume because of circumstances. She might not be able to book additional clients because her rates are too high or she has poor marketing skills. She might be low volume because she has other things going on in her life (e.g. school, work, etc). Perhaps emotionally she can only give herself to so many men in a week. I’ve met a provider who gets burned out after one! Some ladies prefer seeing just a few clients a day, a week or a month. It’s all subjective.

Anyway, a lady’s volume is really no one’s business. Of course there is nothing wrong with using the low volume term for marketing purposes, as it clearly appeals to many men. However, I find it rude to ask to be a lady’s first of the day. This is assuming she has several that day when you might be the first that week!

Xoxo.

A common assumption is that a provider must justify her costs by working around the clock.

Sometimes this is true- and sometimes it isn't.

I have girlfriends who will tour / vacation and accept one multiple hour appointment over the course of a day and when I spend time in markets in which I am established UTR (without advertising that I'm there i.e. my quiet visits to DC) I will prioritize the multiple hour appointments which brought me there and see 1-3 guests over the course of a few days.

It is very much subjective- and over a provider's career her "volume" will just vary.  Very few ladies can keep a frenetic pace of constantly being "ON" up. Most of us will see high volume days, months where we must capitalize on the momentum or popularity of our business and low volume periods where we must focus our energy on cultivation of relationships with patrons who require extended time, additional focus and more meaningful companionship.

Great post Giamarie.

"It's not about "dirty" and "clean" but what makes you feel good about life at the end of the day, and that's different for each of us."

absolutely lauren, and that is the key. emotionally, psychologically, spiritually...what is an individual woman capable of handling in this hobby? those answers, perhaps even more than possible financial concerns, determine how a provider conducts herself in this little world of ours, imho.

and i must admit, i greatly admire the determination and emotional resilience of high volume ladies, whatever their individuals goals or reasons may be. the perv in me can also see the erotic appeal of serving multiple men a day, day after day, pushing my body and conditioning my mind to remain in that "on" mode. hot! but emotionally, i know i could only live that way for about 1 week, lol.

so instead, i have chosen to take a far less popular, and far more intimately demanding route of cultivating long-term meaningful relationships with men actually in need of such. it may sound silly to the more jaded or experienced in the hobby world, but i truly feel i do my part to make the world a brighter place by giving of myself this way. for my clients i am 70% therapist, 10% spiritual healer, 20% willing and obedient sex slave. for the precious few gents who have become dear, lifelong friends it is even more complex (and confusing, lol). but these unique relationships are what enable me to joyfully do this for years, as opposed to days.

Why do ladies proudly advertise themselves as low volume and yet you will find no ladies who advertise themselves as high volume even though many if not the majority of ladies will routinely see several clients per day?  Makes one wonder.

I enjoy traveling to a couple of cities where I can tour as low volume. Anyway, I can imagine that there are some savvy enough touring providers whose typical tour is low volume. I would think touring providers with experience would be able to establish relationships and clientele in which they would have the luxury of only seeing a few gents for longer engagements on a tour. Your point proves that none of us can really assume a lady’s volume…ever. And really we shouldn’t even try.

Great point.

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“You also likely have to invest in your regulars between your dates - keep in touch, be willing to talk if he's having a rough day, do a little reading in their fields of interest, find ways to keep them engaged the time you share stimulating. With higher rates and longer dates, there comes more expectation. Nothing comes easy.”
I agree, and think it also works the other way.  
When it works well the gent is willing to participate with the same level of investment.  There is a basis of genuine caring; be willing to talk if she is having a bad day, when needed provide emotional, not just financial support, and share her interests.  
Of course, as with all relationships, there are limitations, boundaries.  But as long as there is reciprocity, it can be very mutually rewarding.

Or has another job. Don't be too sure it's because she has a turnstile outside her bedroom.

Let me add this from the other side...if a client displays certain behavior that precludes a second visit like over staying the time...marathon pounding...roughness, or has a laundry list of activities he must get through in order to have a good session...he is never re-booked. So yes I hear you...when I find I'm treated like a blow up doll, there is is no repeat either.