I'm a highly successful African American professional and I'm having a very difficult time connecting with providers. I'm 43, single and own a loft in a downtown area but I get disqualified due to my race. Any other black hobbyist have this problem?

I think it can cut both ways.  I'm a 64 year old white guy and I am 0/4 with setting up sessions with black escorts.  Either they are non-responders or ghost after initial contacts.  Not sure why, race is never mentioned ... I'm pretty much about details of the calendar I don't really get into any session talk or politics or anything that would be offensive in any way.  However they have invariably been under 25 so I can't solely attribute it to race ... young chicks maybe don't want to do granddad.  Nevertheless the odds are unusual.

i have seen many black men,as long as i can screen them, i don't judge on race, there are bad seeds in every race color, i know how to tell the difference between thugs, losers and white trash. and professional escorts should too.

I wonder how much the No AA issue has to do with worry over whether the client can navigate though lobby to the room. I am curious about this issue.  Are there any legal trespassing issue with non guests going to a room without guest accompaniment?  The issue is if a client is intercepted he needs to play as cool as possible because if the providers room is found out it would be real obvious whats going on.  I have noticed that providers prefer to give out room numbers in a voice call not text message.  

Really sorry for what you are dealing with, especially considering the fact you are more successful and a gentleman compared to many clients providers see. I wish I had a solution but I don't.  

This one's been beaten to death.  And by an old, white guy!  Aaaaaargh!

So your explanation for racism is to blame the racism of a hooker who won't see black guys on the possibility that hotel staff is racist too??? That has got to be the biggest load of convoluted bullshit I have ever heard.

If most black hookers refused to see old white guys they would most likely starve to death, if you are 0/4 in trying to see black hookers, its probably something to do with YOU, not your race or your age.

Maybe they don't like the Gregorian calendar.

I'll preface this by saying that I don't get many top tier ladies that come through my particular AO.  So when I see something that intrigues me I jump on it.  

If you are 0/4 in scheduling with black providers, and I am pretty sure I am on safe ground when I assume you have never been with a black woman outside of the hooker world, are we to further assume that at age 64 you have NEVER been with a black woman?

I totally agree with you. I see black men as long as I can screen them.

I am African American and if a girl doesn't want to see me.....it is okay with me because I get to save my money any way.  

Actually I don't really wonder anything about you.

Of course as a heterosexual male, I would never have sex with any man. lol

Most black - and many Asian - men inform me of their race in their introductory email.  I find this depressing.  I don't give a fuck what race you are, and I wish we lived in a world where this was not an issue.  

I disagree with that advice. Better to know upfront than to be turned away at the door.

It's bad enough to have your e-mail ignored, but to get all the way to the door and have her refuse to answer the door would really have to piss you off.

....but I when I am killing time scanning through ads I have noticed this NOAA statement more frequently in a certain strata of our industry ( though I am certainly not looking down at anyone, don't have any room to talk about others in this biz).  Also looking at your reviews I can take a guess at the area in which you attempt to frequently book and the problem could be bad experience with others in that Metro area..........i will say I have been a little uncomfortable there myself.   I also noticed that you have many reviews but none since 2012, (which many require) do you have more current references than that? Not being black I don't know but perhaps a lack of references or required screening info is causing your problem and you are assuming race is the issue.   On the other hand here in Atlanta aka DeepSouth I don't think you will run into a race problem not based on your self-appraisal     ( at least not with me and quite a few others) maybe we are not so backwards after all.  Never turned anyone away for race however, many have been dropkicked for stupidity which apparently has no socio-economic, racial, ethnic or geo-political boundaries.  A footnote here there is a thread on another site about this which I believe has somewhere around 4000 posts and has been stickied for over 10 years, this debate is probably never going away.....
Suzee

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This is a significant problem in this industry, with very good clients of "other" races being d*cked around (not in a good way) by many providers, solely based on their race.

Really? I thought you and JanetfromStatefarm do 69 all the time. Since you suck each other's dicks on the board, why not IRL.

Do you have a P411 account? That will solve 90% of your problems. Some providers claim some black gents are pimps trying to recruit them, and some are afraid of being robbed. That's a stereotype, but there is nothing to give your money to someone who cannot screen.

Interesting thought, but my friends - who happen to be black - are professionals and would only get a second notice because they are pretty good looking tall guys.

Per previous comment, I would say tell the provider upfront to avoid any problems. Its a waste of everybody's time to play a charade up until the door and then being turned away.

I agree, thats BS based on personal experience my black friends don;t get a second glance.  But Gina is right, joining 411 and searching for those of us who are OPEN (pun intended) to all is a smart move and solve any potential reference problems, just take the guesswork out of the equation..  Can't change an eternity of thought processes but you can party on...............
Suzee

Stop trying to make up bullshit excuses for hookers choosing who they do business with.

Maybe because his last name is Trump.

Black providers aren't complaining about every ISO ad that contains "No AA".

If I have to explain why, you are even stupider than I imagined. GaGa and I agree on very few things, but we can probably agree you are TSTTT.
And why do I think you don't even know what that means...

... and in the beginning it used to really get to me. Nowadays I just move on to someone else and never give the denier another thought. I have found for every "no thanks" there are 10x as many "yes, absolutely!". So don't let it get you down. Just keep looking. One foot in the door is often all you need to gain some traction and then more doors will open for you.

Mostly because i prefer black men in my free time. Actually pregnant by a black men and truly ENJOY black men. If you have screening protocol and deposit, i dont see why she WOULDN'T see you.

I don't feel as if this applies if hes inviting the providers to his loft.. I dont think he'd mention it if he werent using it.

I did have HALF a mind to check off only AA and Mixed, but i controlled my impulse for BBC

That and you have spunk. I'd meet you for COFFEE. Lmao and then fuck you for free 😂😂

I'm black, and I live in the DC area and I've never had a problem seeing providers. I did notice when I was planning a trip to Houston, that a fair amount of women had NBA rules. Sucks you gotta go through that.

My opinion is that the DMV has a very diverse population and a very high average income (Bureau of Labor statistics on average salary - Loudon County and Fairfax County are top ten in the country) career white collar professionals, so its less of an issue because of our diversity. Lot of travelling providers, who I think have more of an open mind, and permanent residents exposed to diversity. Thus, less of an issue than other places. Just my personal experiences and friends shared information experiences.

results in lots of opinions and no one on this planet can change, solve or dictate people's feelings, preferences, racism and bigotry. It is been around since the beginning of humanity and will continue to exist in this country forever.

You must be the epitome of stupidity.

I wrote about the most glaring example I personally experienced (search for Victoria Styles in the porn star section) which was surprising as she herself has black heritage. I tend to mostly see current or former porn stars so I don’t run across it often as most of the ones I’ve seen are black or mixed.  

Wow. Just wow. Let’s see you have that same mentality if/when YOU get racially profiled.

I don't mind your race as long as you are respectful and your references come back clear!  But the worst kind of men are the ones who feel entitled because they are white.  So, just because you're white you think youre above everyone else.  On multiple occasions I get request for bareback services. I say no but too many times I get the response "but im white!".  It's sickening!

... your world view is too small. It's a human, world wide historic thing.
People suck. Hah!

But you did sugar coat it, you've just defined racism down to being morally equivalent to ageism.  (Which in the case of sex partner selection, I whole heartedly agree they are morally equivalent.)  

Her comment made me laugh.  I think she's saying that there are lots of black providers ready and waiting.

that's awesome! I haven't log into p411 since friday...good to know

on how they present themselves when booking a date, if they provide the screening information I request and as long as they are respectful of my boundaries, privacy and everything else that evolves this job, I can care less their skin color.  

good to know the internet is living up up its reputation as a cesspool of trolls.   Maybe the roach motels you go to don't care, but the ones I go to do.

Me too!!

Hello Sir,
Perhaps you could start with the several Provider reviews you have composed.
I noticed you haven't  "whitelist referrals".
Request of said Providers, to submit for you, a "TER Whitelist Referral or "Ok".

dude, the way you go off the rails so completely over what i said, I 'll have to say your clearly not getting laid enough,  whatever you say the reason is , your probably right ...

Thanks. I have seen providers such as yourself who have offered an opportunity for screening. the ones I speak off will do not offer such an opportunity at all.

you are right. I like outcalls but I understand why some providers only do incalls. I have found myself in a hotel every now and then though and I've not had any issues with the staff.

Hello there and thanks for your comment. This is the first time I'm hearing of meet and greets. Where do I go find the events? Are the links on TER?

I have been turned away at the door twice and I had a provider came all the way to my place and left after I opened it. After that, I find a way to interject my race during the appointment set up. sometimes I asked if they have rules or preferences with race etc. It better to have the provider be comfortable before the meet.

Not necessarily always an option to not include race in an appointment request. My name is foreign sounding. There's probably no white people that have my first name and maybe a handful of white people (if that) that have my last name so just by including my first and last name in an appointment request, provider has a hint that I'm not white

Nah, you aren't a racist, are you?

I don't believe she said that.  She said black providers have lots of love to give ... spread it around.