I just want to put this out there because it has been bugging me for a few years now. I wonder if any of the rest of you feel the same way. While I find the TER provider reviews by clients to be helpful in selecting a companion.  It seems that many if not most providers are consistently overrated on appearance. While the performance reviews are generally very accurate on performance I think there needs to be more objectivity on looks. To me a perfect 10 (once in a lifetime) is just that. This is the best looking most attractive sexiest lady you have ever seen in your entire life! or the best that you will ever expect to see until you die. When clients give lots of 10's, does that mean that all of those ladies were the most attractive women they have ever seen in your life? Or is every 10 you rate just a lot hotter than the last 10?  
When a 9 rating is given, I would expect that to be (Model Material) . When I think of Model material I think of Kate Upton, Heidi Klum, Cindy Crawford, Tyra Banks. The girls I see on TER that are rated as a 9 don't come even remotely close to any Models I have ever seen.  Yes there pretty but Model Material? When you get down to an 8 rating (Really hot) to me that means if they went to a mall or airport or in public, there would be lots of turned heads, guys walking into walls, cars running into one another. The 8's I have seen from TER are usually only modestly attractive and certainly would not have that kind of attention in public. My questions is, are you guys getting caught up in the moment and over rating the girls? If they are rated a 9 would they be good enough to make the SI swim suit issue? For this reason, I rarely write reviews because I don't want to be the one guy that brings her average  down but if the purpose is to give accurate feedback, shouldn't we raise the bar to meet the rating of a 9 or 10 to meet what it actually says? Help me out here...

In short it's simply this....

Just because someone has a lot of 10s, does not make them a 10 overall. I have a mix of scores which shows I am obviously not everyone's idea of a 9 or a 10, but I must admit I can see what you mean about women having all 10s. I have seen some with horrible boob jobs, scars, cellulite, and they have SOLID 10s in looks, so it gives me pause. I can buy that many guys will find a certain woman to be a 10, but not EVERY guy...especially when there are visible flaws even in her photos.  

But I've recently changed my opinion.. a lot of guys don't wanna deal with the drama or backlash of writing a truthful review... So they inflate the score to avoid drama.

I've never had a provider put me in the doghouse until now... I'm not a mind reader if I had known she wanted an inflated review.. I'm probably would've embellished a tad to avoid drama.

When you see these inflated scores..

1.)It usually means the guy wants to avoid drama.

2.)He doesn't want to feel like an idiot because he overpaid.

3.)The provider has offered a bribe.

4.)The guy just doesn't have any standards  

Glad to know I'm not the only one out there. I was beginning to think I needed to have my eyes checked!

As one of those dudes, I feel for you that you need a decoder ring, but I'll not bore you with my once in a lifetime rational.  That conversation is about as tired as BBFS or "Did she really cum?" or any number of other topics that are resurrected every 90 days.  

Maybe after dental reconstruction she'll be on the path to 10/10's?

It's fairly easy to reduce most, if not all of those appearance numbers down by a conservative 3 points.

I was guilty as charged when I was a newbie but now I'm getting to the point where I just don't even want to do reviews. I've seen 2 providers in the last 6 months. Both had 8 to 10's on looks. One was at least 20 pounds overweight and 10+ years older than stated. The other was nowhere near her looks ratings or service. It's almost enough to make a man give up the hobby! But not quite.

I agree with you that ratings are subjective and providers are not super models.  I guess if they were they would be on magazines covers or in Hollywood. Thanks for helping me understand it from the provider point of view. The hottest lady I ever met that did have "super model" looks and rated an average 7. So it can go the other way also.  I just think the bar needs to be raised,  otherwise why have the reviews at all when you have modestly attractive girls getting perfect scores and then you book with them and the door opens and I don't even want to go inside. My motto has always been under promise and overachieve.

I just checked out the pics on her website. Her face was blurred but I could see her body. There is no way I would give her a 10 on looks; she is too flat-chested and I happen to like busty gals (that is why London is my favorite gal. LOL). Also, I cannot stand pussy shots; they are just crude and unclassy.  Yes, scores are inflated but you also have to take into account the various tastes people have

Bitch please...you gave me an 8 bwahahaha. Oh, and I have some kitty shots on my site, but you can't see them na na na boo boo!

I just looked at her p411 she's pretty close to a 9 or 10

glasses if every number on the eye chart looks like a 10.  Only a 3 point adjustment?  I would have though that with my myopia, it would be at lease a -5 prescription.  I suspect there are other explanations than the one you propose.  One of them being the fact there is little overlap in the ladies we have reviewed, but that may come down to your standards argument after all

Posted By: ChgoCPA

It's fairly easy to reduce most, if not all of those appearance numbers down by a conservative 3 points.  
   
 Just saying    
   
 But then my standards are different than yours...that must be the only plausible explanation.  LOL

My idea of a 10 is Denise Richards in Wild Things...

And that's the exact reason why I don't write reviews anymore.

Posted By: MT91151

glasses if every number on the eye chart looks like a 10.  Only a 3 point adjustment?  I would have though that with my myopia, it would be at lease a -5 prescription.  I suspect there are other explanations than the one you propose.  One of them being the fact there is little overlap in the ladies we have reviewed, but that may come down to your standards argument after all  
   
 It is refreshing to see that you occasionally fall prey to the "10 trap" yourself. All that said, I actually laughed out loud at your original post, so thanks for the moment of levity.  
   

Posted By: ChgoCPA

It's fairly easy to reduce most, if not all of those appearance numbers down by a conservative 3 points.  
     
  Just saying    
     
  But then my standards are different than yours...that must be the only plausible explanation.  LOL

its safe to ignore the rest of his looks ratings. Some of the ladies who Ive seen who recieved 10's from other posters . . . oh boy. I rarely get any better than a 7 when I open the door; and I would probably rank some lower when I was their age. Not that I'm complaining. I'm glad there are ladies performing this work. I just know to temper my expectations. Subtract 1 from the average looks rating of a frequently reviewed girl, you usually get a fairly accurate number.

Using well known celebs and such to create those ideals by members.

I speak from personal experience from having met other sex workers and clients who may not be considered as "traditionally" or "model" attractive according to U.S. standards.  Within ten minutes of holding on a conversation with certain people, their intelligence is such a huge turn on that their appearance bumps up in my rankings.  

We're on the same page.. when it comes to Denise Richards she's a 10 all day.

I don't disagree with much of what you said, and I stayed at the 4 Seasons last night.  More money, but still a bed and bathroom.  They did give me some mints at bedtime however.

Posted By: ChgoCPA

And that's the exact reason why I don't write reviews anymore.  
   
 Simply put this rating system has been compromised by both hookers and johns.  Guys giving out 10's to fairly average looking women and the hookers putting the full court press to those johns for the 10's.  I get that the hookers now equate 10's to fee increases...and the johns accommodate that insanity by corroborating the illusions.  
   
 As for the comparisons...more than you have any real clues to.  LOL  
   

Posted By: MT91151

glasses if every number on the eye chart looks like a 10.  Only a 3 point adjustment?  I would have though that with my myopia, it would be at lease a -5 prescription.  I suspect there are other explanations than the one you propose.  One of them being the fact there is little overlap in the ladies we have reviewed, but that may come down to your standards argument after all  
     
  It is refreshing to see that you occasionally fall prey to the "10 trap" yourself. All that said, I actually laughed out loud at your original post, so thanks for the moment of levity.  
     

Posted By: ChgoCPA

It's fairly easy to reduce most, if not all of those appearance numbers down by a conservative 3 points.    
       
   Just saying      
       
   But then my standards are different than yours...that must be the only plausible explanation.  LOL

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And why would u see a girl who was a "rip off" only to say again she's a rip off ? There are a lot of very pretty girls , add for manners , great sex , and fair rates and there are a lot of 10/10 s ! MT knows how to find them and so do I. Okay , class is over .  

damn some of you guys are some tough graders lol

I am in my mid-fifties and know what I like, it might not be what you like.  

That way you know going in to expect an 8 and if she is a 9, win/win. Personally, you are using another guy's opinion to base your decision on, and that is simply absurd for any of you to do. Like the poster below said about your 10, many disagree but you're not inflating the score are you? No...you are ONLY giving YOUR opinion of what a 10 is. The next 20 guys might disagree.  

Problem solved.

Yes I would give her an 8 too. I see a lot of "mature" providers with 10s too I don't understand.

Agreed, and me thinks the "average looking" providers already know this. If you stroke a man's ego, you are a 10 all day long. Spend that same time yapping about your issues, and you're a 5. Rarely do appearance scores have to do only with the physical. The service, personality, and intellect of a provider always raises her looks score. Must be my case bwahahaha.

It really is in the eye of that guy at that time with that provider.  

I do agree with you that opinions vary.. but you if you put 10 guys in a room to critique a gal and 9 of the guys says she's fat, then the other guy is either blind or has no standards.

LOL.. I think the fact that we're "paying" gives us some clout to be fussy

Maybe we are generous because we are used to 4 and 5 for wifes and girl friends.

and now that you mention it, I still feel the exact same way. lol

and your four reasons are simply another way to say the same thing, which FWIW I completely agree with.

The ability to review under an alias was supposed to help prevent reason number one, but it doesn't seem to be having much effect, so I go back to reason number four. Some/many of these guys simply have no standards.


And for those who claim that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" Please GFY, there is no way that any objective person is going to rate an average looking, overweight forty year old as a "ten" no matter how pretty her face is. It's bullshit and we all know it.

Are many things that one must factor together to say , hey wow she's a 10 ! And looks are only 1part of that equation. And we all have tastes that will vary. Hey have a good day !!!!!!!

I don't fuck 4's or 5's for free, and I damn sure am not going to do so when paying for it.

Of course your statement could be construed to simply be agreeing with the statement that "some guys have no standards" in which case, I guess I would have to agree.

And that's why I like you.. you're a straight shooter.

Damn I completely forgot about the ability to review under alias.. wish I thought about it recently.

So I understand why you gave her the penalty lol

Okay , she's cute . Pretty. BUT what those photos say is !!!! That's all I have to offer . Now , my atf here , best photos . Cocktail dress , casual sporty , casual fun and a killer body ! So the whole package ! 10/10 !  

Some guys, especially those old fuckers who can barely get it up, consider even a fifty year old "young and hot"

Oh well, maybe in 20-30 years I will feel the same, MAYBE? somehow I doubt that even at 80 my eyesight is going to fade that much.

I agree as time goes by EVERYONE ages, including the you husbands and boyfriends and I am sure your wife or girlfriend would rate you similarly now.

You don't bash a guy over the head because he's been to a local restaurant and gave it the highest ratings when you've been to a 5 star restaurant in NYC and find the food at the local place to be disgusting.  Furthermore comparing us to celebrities in terms of ratings seems somewhat unrealistic, considering they have a team of make up artists, hair stylists, personal trainers, plastic surgery physicians, cosmetic dentists ect ect.  Not to mention they airbrush and change the way celebrities appear in photos and even movies (Pretty woman comes to mind).  I'm not saying I don't think some provider's scores are over inflated (because many are) I'm just saying as far as ratings go if you compare the provider with other women you've seen in that area (including non providers) your scoring is going to seem more accurate and fair, at least to the other men in that area.

They would not be screwing middle aged men who have seen better days. They would be actual models or actresses making a gazillion more legally.

Well said....

Depends what your taste is like I would spout up big time on the looks in person if I actually met the gorgeous xxx xxxxxx but brad pitt does nothing for me but would have other people wetting themselves and you are stood there going I don't get it. It's all about the connection they had with someone they met of course they are going to find them more beautiful than you who has no connection.

10/10 at least pm me a link or something lol

i remember when I was in grad school in my mid-twenties, the undergraduates looked way better than the girls in grad school (and most got worse looking by the end). Now in my 30's, decent looking girls in their mid-20's look much better to me than they did 10 years ago. The same will probably be true someday of less than hot women in their 30's.

Very good taste you lucky SOB

UTR 1s ! Those ladies r hottttttttttttttter !  

The op s 10 is ? I said 8/ , but would "u" now say 10/  ????? See I couldn't ! Cause she ain't ! See I would have to be fair and compare to the others ?  

Not many give a shit as to what the opinion's are of that other person.

I could however see how the OP could rate her a 10, just going off the P411 pics I'd give her a 9.

Judging what you're comparing her to lol... I understand the 8. Heck an 8 still means pretty hot

We all know that many of these movie and porn stars are rather ordinary looking when not all dolled up.

Just like there are singers, dancers, actors, et al working in dives, waiting to be discovered who have just as much talent, looks, etc as those who have actually made it.

I also don't find that many of the "high dollar hookers" are really that much more attractive than their more reasonably priced counterparts, IMO it's all about marketing, and of course building a reputation that allows a woman to command a higher than average price.

That you don't want to fuck her. But you did anyways because you felt bad and threw her s charity fuck so she could feed her fat butter face!  

Actually really good ! The 10 thing out of control . That's what causes the issues ! 8/9 should be a really really great time with a hot lady !  

They know they are hot so they just coast on their looks. It's basically wham-bam-thank you-mame but they are really eye candy so guys still flock to see them

I always give extra hotness points to women of any profession requiring them to get naked all year round. Many top Hollywood females would look terrible naked on a random day.

Psstt,,,Got some breaking news for you.  It's not just the advertised hookers that like money  LOL

men do seem to converge on opinion quite a bit. A curvier provider, if pics are accurate, will mostly attract men who like that. Likewise, a 90 pound spinner with A or B cups will mostly attract men who like that. I happen to prefer the latter. If I see a provider with body type listed "baby fat" and lots of high scores, I don't read further. I just assume it isn't what I want.  

I would give her a solid "8" which is right about where he said he had her rated when he first met her. He goes on to say that the longer he was with her, the more attractive he found her until he ended up giving her a "10" IMO he gets a pass on that, and I find no real fault with his 10 rating of a woman that I find an 8.

His ten is a far cry from 45 year old fat broads that I wouldn't give anymore than a 5 to who get page after page of 8s 9s and 10s. Our latest pinata from last night is a perfect example. At my drunkest she couldn't get more than a five out of me, and truth be told, in a sober moment I would most likely give her a 3, but if I recall correctly she averages about an 8 in looks according to the myopic reviewers that have taken the time to write reviews for her. Now reviews like that are a travesty, not stretching an 8, or even arguably a 9 into a 10 because she rocked his world.

Overwhelmed with her for various reasons , which are his . And not a bad review . Oh the "golden girl" from yesterday yes Blanche is a generous 5 , I had her at a 4  !

so i think i have this straight now..EC has 31 reviews of all 10/10's except for 5 guys who gave her a 9..i guess these guys must really be fucked up..what is this world coming too?...just simply disregard all of those reviews..they are worthless to all the ass wads..

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I'd go and repost the reply YOU put up a while back on this very topic (hint...it's the post where you admit that you've inflated review scores).

I only see HOT providers  

Yes, you can have you cake and eat it (her) too.

Why do some many people in this hobby insist that good looks and great performance are mutually exclusive? I don't spend a fortune on any one lady, but I manage to find women that are hot, give a great session, and are not ridiculously priced. Why the rest of you seem to have such a problem getting your brains fucked out by a hottie without breaking the bank is beyond me. I

I do not pay much attention to the appearance ratings as they are subjective.  I'll make this simple.

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I've seen profiles of very high-priced ladies with all 10s that I just don't get.
I guess in these cases a guy would have to be slightly ballsy to score lower, as I'm sure the lady wouldn't like losing her perfect score.
Also, I should also add, for me, models aren't necessarily the ideal.  I like women shorter and curvier than the prototypical model.

that deserve a ten, if there are hot hookers where are they and why are they not getting real 10's?  

If they are under the radar they are still not here lining up to fuck fat middle aged men. Maybe, they chose a sugar daddy they are at the very least attracted to or half him and the other half his wallet. So they are out there but they are not here, as the reviews and the complaints obviously show

and I can only imagine how they would rightfully be dissing their "old, fat, smelly husbands, who can't even get it up without the little blue pill"

I don't mean to be judgmental, well maybe a bit judgmental, but if these wives are really Satan's spawn, get a fucking divorce already, why do think I am always so fucking happy? I took my own advice and my last twenty years have been the happiest of my life.

I know I have made some crappy choices in SO's and have taken my responsibility after the fact, but it gets really old when you hear wife bashing with NO accountability from the husband who of course is great in bed, romantic, and hot, yeah not buying that. It looks really bad to hear that stuff.

I have complained (for all the good it does me) about guys with no standards giving out nines and tens to women who shouldn't rate a five from anybody not dead fucking drunk.

There are loads of hot women, and many on TER. Those are the people who should be the most irate about "grade inflation" as it cheapens the high scores of the truly deserving, and yes I am seeing them, and yes I rarely pay more than $300 hr, truth be told I can't remember that last time that I paid more than that, it's been months if not years since I have paid over $300 for an hour, and I don't any reason for me to do so in the future, unless I find myself in NYC of course.

Well Stated~ I couldn't agree more

As for these great husbands that you are talking about, I've been to many a M&G and found out that "Damn, I am a catch after all" I've got all of my teeth, most of my hair and my waist is still a 33, this alone puts me in the top ten percent. lmao

I guess it does explain why so many unhappy husbands stay married. Deep down they know they can't do any better, except for an hour here and there and then only by paying for it.

I now get what you're saying. The hot ones get the 9's and 10's but the ones you and some others are upset about are the ladies who are not close to the hot ones but still get the high scores.  

And it is rampant on both sides....