Hilarious. The best thing about your situation, is that you know there are no rules, and therefore you are instantly and unavoidably enjoined to play things consistently, constantly by ear, always adjusting and modifying the plan. I think even the most puritanical, anti-sexual of households could survive happy and raise balanced children, IF it played all moments by ear like you are doing.

But then, what do I know. I have no kids, and am certainly not a puritanical anti-sexual sort. It's interesting that your youngest wants to rebel by keeping her action all vanilla. Funny.

I want to have ANY form of action. If all I could get was S&M, I'd "settle" for S&M, my parents' preferences notwithstanding. I don't even know if S&M would be rebellion or conformity. My personal goal is to find a venue where I can celebrate my sexuality. I grew up in a party town, have been to international carnivals like Rio's Mardi Gras, look good and keep fit and am still young, and STILL I can't get laid except with providers. They sure do take the edge off. I'm not sure if that's a good or a bad thing, but I do know that I haven't EVER found a civilian individual partner, or group of friends, who are even the least bit supportive of the idea that heterosexual males should celebrate their sexuality. We're supposed to be frustrated by it. Viagra? Hah! I want ANTI-viagra, just to make the difference between desire and fulfillment a little less painful.

Women have that part easy ... ya wanna celebrate? Have a party! Invite your friends! Go to California, strip in the streets, get laid by well-meaning good-looking hard-bodies. Damn, what a life. Guys are just considered lechers and pervs if we go masturbate for our hot-looking friends without first having all the FEMALE trappings of an interaction, the parts that RUIN the goddamned experience. Talk, and sweet nicey-nicey, and long-term commitment, and planning for going to the zoo, and getting up at dawn for feedings.

On all those HBO documentaries about sex, there is always some chick who overcomes a repressive upbringing and eventually learns to celebrate her sexuality. By this, she means that she gets to love her job, have sex a lot, probably have a job that involves sex, and basically be proud of the human mammal that she is. I want the same opportunity. Any suggestions?

The best suggestion I guess, would be to try to get roles in porn movies. But ya know, porn doesn't seem like it would cut it. First of all, independent porn isn't something I know about. I'm not exactly into movie making, don't know squat from video, and don't really like the whole Hollywood phenomenon. Second of all, although I'm OK looking, I'm not hung like a horse and I'm not anything above average as far as the bod or the squirt. What IS IT with porn stars?!! The guys can squirt about a gallon, and like forty feet! How do they DO that?

Anyway, I'm just having fun posting tonight. That other thread about the rift between the genders has got me thinking. I want to "celebrate" my sexuality, too, and we all know that although it's the next best thing, paying a provider is not wholly being your own most celebratory self.

Nightie night ...

Two boys over 18 both aware of what Mom's does.  Older one better adjusted with it  Younger one had the stereo typical television ideaology about it.  Thought the men must be ugly, fat, gross, etc....you know the stupid stuff the media throws out.   Well from a safe distance he started seeing once in while Mom's clients arrive.  He thought I should try to marry one of them.  Of course, been there done the marriage thing and found it could be highly over rated.  This is so much better!!!!!

I believe it depends on age as to what level of exposure is appropriate, as well as the tone of that exposure.

Sex - yes.  it is a natural act, and important for children to know about.

I do think that specifics of the act (or acts )should be left for them to discover.

I think that children should be raised with an understanding that sex is a beautiful thing...but the specifics are just confusing....Lets face it - we all have our specific level of taste...and it is based upon what we have found works for us. Children have no frame of reference for the specifics...With my kids I call that adult stuff...and they can figure that part out on their own...knowing that there is nothing wrong with any of it as long as nobodsy is hurt in the process.

Too often we push our specific issues on our kids.  What we want is for them to be happy....not to act out our own frustrations and dreams.

I am not sure how old our child is Faye who made the comment about S&M...but I sincerely hope she is well into her teens.

As emotional as sex is for youngsters...it is too easy for them to get confused and turned artound in such a way as to never find what THEY like.  Since they are looking to us, as parents for starting points..we should make it as general as possible with as little pressure as to direction as we can.

It is too easy for an open relationship with our children to turn perverse.  As mature as they might be...they are still children, and as such hold a level of innocence which should be protected without stifling their individuality.

Talk about a gray area....

I have often read your posts and really enjoyed them. But this one has me a bit awed. I am not sure I have ever told anyone here. But I have a 7 year old son. I very seldom tell my clients, and if I do it's because I slipped. I have tried to keep my pro life very seperate from my family life. I don't answer my phone in front of my son and I NEVER have had a client in my home. This business is not for children. Why do you think we have laws permitting girls to work who must be over 18 or 19? A child ( as I have been seeing in my son) has enough of a time figuring out their sexuality and their bodies without having other influences. Yes teach them about erections, feelings, birth control and STD's. But everything in it's place.Can an early teen really understand what S&M is? Does she comprehend the psychology of it? Or does she just think the Leather clothes are cool like any other rebellious teenager? I wron't talk to my son at this time about condoms, because it is not appropriate, but I will talk to him about touching his penis at every waking moment and why Mommy has hair and big "rasberries" (nipples) and he doesn't. If he wants to get into this business at some point in his life ( God forbid! LOL) he will have to learn it on his own. It's not a question of being Mrs. Jones. It's whether you should be exposing your child to this business and Adult Sexuality  in the name of being " A Hip Parent" . Yes, making your child feel dirty and evil when they are experimenting with their sexuality is wrong. But I also think it is wrong to give your husband/boyfriend/client head on the couch and risking your child having that ingrained in their memory. That stuff can come back to haunt you and that is unhealthy. Well just my .02$