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Hpygolky 233 Reviews 5442 reads
posted
1 / 35

Ladies, come out come out wherever you are...I think I'm gonna need you here.
I see by today's increase in rates that this got me thinking, I wonder what are, if any are the basic grandfather rules. I know it would be on a case by case basis but in general, what might those rules be? Girls do you even offer them, or is it a "hush, hush, wink, wink" thing?  Or is it the "I won't tell if you don't"
Guys do you even ask, even if you haven't seen her in a year or two?Now me? I have never asked, her rate is her rate and that just the way it is. But I have a story to tell.......Suck it up, it ain't that bad.
Met this young lady (we'll call her Ms. X) about 7 years ago. I enjoyed her company and subsequently saw her 3 more times over a 4 month period. Oh, she was $5XX then and our dates were of the 2 hours. Then in time, her rates ballooned to 6,7, then 8XX. I moved on and she became like the flavor of the month in Vegas. Then about 2 years or so, I met a friend  (We'll call her Ms.J) for drinks, nothing more. She bought a friend along, who happened to be Ms.X. We then decide to have a lite dinner,all of us. As we're talking Ms X asked me why we haven't gotten together, why I never called her. Told her flat out that I couldn't afford the price of admission now at1K. She laugh and said, "Don't worry, I'll see you on our old pricing".
So fast forward, on my next trip, about a month after our lil dinner,  I reached out to Ms.X, I mean the old price for this beauty, shit why not??
Cut to the chase.....never heard back. So much for that.
So back to the grandfathering...what's the deal?

John_Laroche 119 reads
posted
2 / 35

a way for providers to fill holes in their schedule with a known commodity.  Since you are paying less, you will go to the bottom of the list.  

 
That said,  I wouldn't give up on Ms.X.  
It costs you nothing to ask.

paigesavage See my TER Reviews 138 reads
posted
3 / 35

hard and fast rule for everyone. Once again, this is a case by case depending on the provider and their business practices. There are providers who do *not* honor grandfathering what-so-ever, there are some that do with parameters (i.e. only grandfathered if you've seen the provider 2 to 3 times within a calendar year).  

 

TLDR: every provider is different and your best bet is to just check their website/etiquette...

eastside70 47 Reviews 142 reads
posted
4 / 35

she probably only said she'd see you at the old rate to try to cut out the other lady if you saw her later on that night. Or else she would have saw you at the old rate when you inquired afterwards instead of ghosting you.  

As for me personally, I will pay their current rate if it’s within my budget and I still see value in providing the increased rate. If either one of those two criteria isn't met, I  
just don't contact them again. Unfortunately, I've had to move on with a few due to this issue.

1angelinajones See my TER Reviews 144 reads
posted
5 / 35

0.P.?
Recall the quantity of alcohol consumed during your "reunion dinner" with Ms. X?
The answer may explain why you never heard a peep from her when you finally
reached out!

She probably was just going-with-the-flow of the evening with inane, lively  
conversation during your meeting, as the cocktails swirled.    

However, you took her "grandfather" comment as very literal.  

She probably has no clue as to what you were speaking of whilst reaching out in  
an aftermath inquiry email.

I can tell you if her rates really raised a considerable amount since you last had
an "official" rendezvous,  (7 years ago)  then she really wasn't likely to see you  
after so many years have passed at a much lesser rate.

If she could book  a  commanding  1k/hr  with  "Mr.  Moneybags",  why  would she  
tryst with anyone at  a  financial loss?      

"Ms. X",   may  not  even  have a booking during a time-frame of a proposed visit with  
you at much lesser donation.  
The spare unpaid time is likely more worth it to her to spend time doing other things,  
then to acquiesce to your budget.

I'm  sorry  if  I  sound  harsh,  however  it's  known  that  "time",  the  elusive  element,  
which  most  have  very  little  of,  is  worth  a  great  deal  of  money.

X0  Angelina Jones

Duplicitouslust 24 Reviews 134 reads
posted
7 / 35

Like Ms. Savage says it can vary from provider to provider.  However, I would assume on some level it has to exist because old business is just as important if not more important than new business.  You definitely need regulars to have an established book of business but it is just as important for you to grow as well.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 127 reads
posted
8 / 35

There is a pecking (or pecker? - Lol) order with every provider.  Top priority goes to guys who do weekends, FMTY, and overnights.  Next is guys who book multiple hours.  Next is the one hour Johns.  Lastly, is the one-hour Johns who are grandfathered in at lower rates.  As Laroche says, they are happy to fill holes in their schedule with guys that are paying less, but when they have plenty of bookings by higher priority customers, there is no need to do that.  

 
It sucks to be at the mercy of how well she is doing with OTHER customers, but that's the reality of the game.  Trying to get onto her schedule at a lower-than-current rate is a hit and miss proposition at best.  Don't take it personally, its just business.  

100ProofOfLV See Agency Profile 127 reads
posted
9 / 35

We raised our rates once in 13 years from $400 per hour to $500 per hour in October of 2016. No one was grandfathered in and no one complained. We got a few inquiries about grandfathering and that was about it. I don't foresee another rate increase in the near future as of now.

holystonethedeck 105 Reviews 116 reads
posted
10 / 35

Certainly as others have said there are no rules. It's up to the individual lady. Some also set a time limit on grandfathering, i.e. you continue to pay the old rate for 6 months then the grandfathering ends.

I'm in two grandfathering situations now.

First lady I've been seeing for 4 years now, pretty much monthly before she moved to the west coast. She decided she'd come back east every few months (she doesn't work at home and has a civie job). I made a date with her on her first trip back and I happened to look at her P411 profile and saw her hourly rate went up. Only $50 though. So during one of our email exchanges I said to her "Good thing I looked at your profile or I would have embarrassed myself, why didn't you tell me you raised your rates?". She replied "oh well your grandfathered in silly". I like to think we have a good relationship and get along really well. I do give her something extra here and there when I can. Even though it's only $50 I appreciated her gesture.

A Korean lady I've seen about 4 times over the past few months raised her hourly rate from $330 to $450. She uses a booker and upon completion of making the appointment, he always confirms the date/time/duration and "donation". Again, I happened to look and saw her rate increase but I kept silent. Next time I booked it was the old rate. I've seen her a few times since, still at the old rate. I don't ask but I wonder when I'll end up paying the new rate. Hopefully never, lol.

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 122 reads
posted
11 / 35

of how the agency needs to be run..  

 
Couldn't see one of your gals last time I was in Vegas, as I was feeling under the weather but plan to change that this time time, assuming we aren't headed for a shutdown, and I can visit Vegas in Nov after WS.

Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 131 reads
posted
12 / 35

First of all hpygolky,  
  some of the prices on this site might just right out crazy!!! But then again so are some of the hobbyists who try to be as cheap as hell. I have have a few hobbyists who thought that he should pay whatever he felt that the service is worth. LMFAO!!! let me get one thing straight. The Hobbyists who are trying to take control of the Providers (Like when she's available, What she charges & Etc.). Those Hobbyists must be crazy and as far as the prices are concerned......
Have you thought about the fact that the Provider has more at stake then you "The Hobbyists" do?! We "The Provider" could  go to jail for days or months, Have a soliciting of prostitution on our record (Regardless how secure this site is or might be).  We "The Providers" always have to jump through more loops then the so called "HOBBYISTS".  So therefore,  before you "The Hobbyist" starts bringing up things like prices, How the provider just laid there lifeless and what not.........Think how we have to deal with the ignorance of men who are so cheap ass well as being judgemental & etc. If it wasn't for the so called HOBBYISTS hitting on us for whatever reason that they have then we "Providers" would never be charging what we are. I have been doing this for almost 30 years (Since I was eighteen and half). This is just fruit for thought. Respect goes both ways.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 111 reads
posted
14 / 35

"Have you thought about the fact that the Provider has more at stake then you "The Hobbyists" do?! We "The Provider" could  go to jail for days or months, Have a soliciting of prostitution on our record (Regardless how secure this site is or might be)."

 
Uh, no? In my state (Cali) the girls won't even get booked, they will be let go, as they will plead ht and then will have to go attend classes at most. Their names will not be disclosed to the public and their pics never exposed to the press. The Johns, on other hand, will have their names and mugshot plastered all over newspapers and their careers ruined. The girls will be back to their jobs in a few weeks,if not days. The guys? Yeah... most of them will end up fired.  

 
At the very least, the risk is equal. I'd argue the risk is far greater for the mongers in today's climate, at least in my state, and it isn't particularly close. LE directly admits they're not going for workers, but for Johns.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 137 reads
posted
15 / 35

That's exactly why the offer was extended at that time and place. It seemed (I didn't know it at that time) that there was some "gamesmanship" going on between the two young ladies. A bit of a competition (It's Vegas).
Long story short, I saw someone else that evening. Then Ms.J calls me at 2:30am to tell me why Ms.X made the offer. Ms J met me for a late night drink and to have a laugh over what happened, then we went to my room and......had a great time.
But I did eventually reach out to Ms X about that that "offer"...never to hear from her again

AnotherDonJohn 111 reads
posted
16 / 35

Angling for a discount lol:)

Ripoffrevenge 131 reads
posted
17 / 35

Lets face it mis. Newbie 21 years old will get lot more than the 52 year grandma who 300lbs and you need several mask.   From what see there a 5% a year on average compound depreciation over of woman sexiness V's experience. If we go into high inflation the price will go up.

SteadyAlways 150 reads
posted
18 / 35

Over a good number of years my wife raised her rates from the 200-225 to about 500 average.  She didn't really grandfather clients, but did for the first visit after a raise give them the old rate one time.

holystonethedeck 105 Reviews 134 reads
posted
19 / 35

Seriously, why don't you learn how to write English?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 121 reads
posted
20 / 35

It actually more time to write like this than playing it straight.  I have tried in the past to write like someone who is an ESL student, and its a lot of work to get it right for someone who speaks perfect English.  

hobbyhunter69 89 Reviews 135 reads
posted
21 / 35

From personal experience, your wife did grandfather my rates as long as the contributed to her "3 hole experience".

SteadyAlways 117 reads
posted
22 / 35

lol, ahhhh you must have been somewhere in Europe also....

MandiMaeBae0007 137 reads
posted
23 / 35

There seems to be an awful lot of discussion here for such a simply put question...
Let me simplify this:
Providers are working for the purpose of earning a living. So imagine that, in your occupation, you have the ability to schedule your own appointments based on your own criteria... The most money, earned the fastest... that comes first, right? Lower amounts move on down the list respectively.
Don't get me wrong, even as professionals, providers do occasionally play favorites. But overall, money trumps familiarity or favor every time.
😘

GaGambler 170 reads
posted
24 / 35

First off let me say  I completely agree that this is a BUSINESS for the ladies and they have the right to grandfather rates or not to at their own discretion, and to prioritize bookings by any metric they choose, just like any other business does.

 
Here is my idea where it comes to grandfathering, just like airlines allow frequent fliers to fly "stand by" for a heavily discounted or even free rate, and other businesses will allow "space available" bookings, would it make sense to offer grandfathered rates to regulars based on the same kind of "non binding" basis?  

 
I am sure there are valid reasons for not doing so, but I thought I would throw the idea out there.

 
BTW in my own business, especially during good times I have to prioritize my jobs as well and I'd be lying if I tried to claim that I treated all clients "equally" A one time $50,000 job is NOT going to get priority over someone spending a million bucks with me. I "try" to treat everyone the same, but like you I am in business and unless that $50,000 job is for a customer who has spent a LOT of money with me and I expect him to continue to do so, or I am contractually obligated to do so, I am going to schedule the more lucrative job ahead of him all other things being equal. I can't honestly expect hookers to conduct their business otherwise.

herbtcat 6 Reviews 140 reads
posted
25 / 35

As anyone successful in business that sells many "units" of product must learn, those who charge the highest price are not always those who make the most revenue, or profit.  There is a  trade off between price and units sold over time that should constantly be reviewed and adjusted, based on the strategic objectives of the company.  Add to that the need for "production" guidelines (like number of units that can be produced for a certain cost, required margins for COGS, etc.) and pricing strategies can get complicated. But they are critical to the success of the business.  

 
Having said all that, GaGa made me think of an alternative pricing strategy: How about pricing based on dick size.  The bigger the dick, the higher the price.   (Note: I suggest that the provider define "dick" anyway she wants).  This may require a whole new dynamic in screening. Or perhaps every new customer get's a 2nd and future price after the first date.  :p  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

SteadyAlways 136 reads
posted
26 / 35

Regarding the last paragraph and alternate pricing strategy.  Then the gal should at least provide a results chart of her activates to include number of dicks serviced and in which size range so that the potential client can gauge if she might be a fit for him.
a. Percent of cocks 0.05 to 5.9 inches serviced.
b. Percent of cocks 6.0 to 9.0 inches serviced.
c. Percent of cocks over 9.0 inches serviced.
She of course, should indicate her preferences so that she and a potential shopper do not have to waste time in exploring  whether a good match is possible.  

EveAlexander See my TER Reviews 160 reads
posted
27 / 35

The "pecking order," as you phrased it, is entirely up to the provider. I offer the rates a patron sees me at in perpetuity as long as they consider to see me regularly. I'm also clear that regularly means at least once every 2 months. Over 90% of my business is repeat 3 hour dates, with a mix of true regulars (once a month or once every 2 months) and those who see me close to quarterly (3-4 times a year). It would be very foolish short term thinking of me to de-prioritize my devoted grandfathered patrons in favor of someone who sees me once, or once in a great while, for a travel date.  
When I devote myself to those who devote themselves to me:
-I make far more money long term
-incur far less risk, business feast/famine, and resulting emotional drain

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 116 reads
posted
28 / 35

might be a good idea, but few mongers who got the lowest price would admit it in their review.  LOL

SteadyAlways 139 reads
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29 / 35
Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 109 reads
posted
30 / 35

I don't think there's a Grandfather Rule for this particular thing. I've been doing this since i was eighteen & a half (I'll be 46in February) and never heard of a Grandfather Rule (Can someone educate me on that subject?).  

OldRanger 62 Reviews 111 reads
posted
32 / 35

One definition  
If client is old enough to be your grandfather he gets a 50% reduction in rate /
Another ten % if he can get it up long enough for you to be honestly  satisfied.🤭

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 157 reads
posted
33 / 35

I think her grandfather would have to be upper 80's or 90's.  Definitely should get a senior discount.

tomh2 128 reads
posted
34 / 35

My wife, who was a provider as mentioned on here before, had pretty much the same views and practices.

sandv4300 32 Reviews 134 reads
posted
35 / 35

I would be pretty upset if my employer told me that my compensation was “grandfathered” for next year and I wasn’t even going to get a cost of living increase.  Inflation has (almost) always been a reality.

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