is it possible for a provider to have a significant other like a husband or boyfriend?  My understanding is that in this business, it would be very difficult to maintain a normal relationship unless the SO is ok with his woman doing this......I find that hard to believe.  Am I correct to assume that almost all providers are single?

No, many ladies are married or are in committed relationships.  Some of them tell their husbands/SOs and some don't.

have SO's of some type.  My SO is Bev. Fisher and I fully support her lifestyle.  I don't think that I am that atypical either.

"Am I correct to assume that almost all providers are single?"

Oh, yes. It's a mandatory clause in our union contracts. When not working, we are required by law to wear our chastity belts.

Personally, I like to spend my time off ministering to lepers, so the chastity thing isn't that big of a deal.

Oh, and we're also all androids. Really convincing androids...

..head/desk..

Morgan

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I am married, and have a boyfriend. Boyfriend knows and loves it, husband has NO idea. Is it possible? Yes, only if a provider can keep it compartmentalized.

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put this one in there with "all providers were molested as children" and "they do it because they have to because they need to buy drugs/they can't do anything else..."  

Mr. Fisher can probably speak to this better than I, since it's been a couple of decades since I was in a committed relationship w/ a provider, but it in fact was one of the most rewarding relationships I've had. And should you be fortunate enough to have even a sincere, respectful relationship with a provider, it can be wonderful.

I personally work as an escort to get over the fact that I was once molested at a 'swim with the dolphins' experience in my early youth. Flipper's snout, the salt water.. it's all too, too painful to recall, unless of course you're a publisher with a book deal, or Oprah.

Escorting provides me with ample opportunities to replay this trauma (sea mammals making remarkably good clients, oddly enough), especially when I am in the blissful embrace of a half teaspoon of children's liquid tylenol.

Then I spend the rest of the day picking up limbs dropped by the lepers, and adjusting the fit of my chastity belt. If I have time left over, I like to read escort discussion boards and marvel at how the same topics never get repeated.

Morgan, looking for that tylenol

There is much debate about what is savoir faire. One gentleman said savoir faire means if you come home and find your SO in en flagrante dilecto you say nothing and leave. Others say you should say "Pardon moi" and then leave. But the real gentleman with savoir faire would say "Pardon moi -- continue" LOL

Edited to correct an engineer's speling

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boohoo.....

Hoo one da speling b?

To paint or pigeon-hole an ilk of reprobates of respectability and conventionality is folly.

 The keyword is “libertine”, and whatever dynamics fires, fuels and feeds the individuals quest for equilibrium will serve answer for their individual life's antithesis to Ozzy and Harriet.

As harsh as the business can be for relationships, many ladies have SO's for a long time or are even married. Now, they won't talk about it generally.  

I know one who has had a steady relationship for 9 years.  I know another who has had one for at least that long.  I haven't met one who's married to my knowledge, but I never ask.  I only find out what they volunteer to tell me.

But you know, I just thought now, it would be better if people with simple misconceptions about providers wouldn't get slammed every time when they seek to have them rectified. I mean, at one time, we all came into this, provider or client, with a few amazing misconceptions.  Some of them might be demeaning and offensive, but some of them are quite benign.  This was one that was benign.  

Forget the Tylenol Babe...I got a fifth of Children's Benadryl and a baggie of guppies...we can have a wild time...just get in the tub and the fishes can breach the confines of that chastity belt...

I thought I had posted an innocent question and wasn't expecting such vitriol and mean-spirited sarcasm.  I am new to this hobbying community and am just interested to know....in no way did my question imply that I think ill of providers...as a matter of fact, if not for them, I wouldn't be "getting any" so yes I am appreciative.  Responding to a rookie's innocent inquiry with a couple of sarcastic barbs (so far you posted 2) will not endear you to newbies or anyone else who may take this hobby seriously.  Your replies are more consistent with an immature hooker than a professional escort.

The responses you get from providers in this board don't represent the majority, as majority of the esorts don't hang out in the board.  Based on what I read from newspaper articles on escort, statistically majority of the escorts are single. Many are single mom too who find this career give them freedom of choice for time, decent income and not having to depend on male breadwinner.   Personally, I have never met one escort who told me she has a husband, but quite a few have ex husbands and kids.  A few have live in BF but I am not sure if they qualify as SO because the relationship is not permanent.  AMP girls rarely ever have SO and if they do, they get married and get out of the biz. Young agency girls may only do it temporarily until they finish college or find another job.  They may have BF whom they keep secret of their temporary part time job and I don't think they should count in the stats.

I had a great realtionship with a provider; Marina.  It lasted nearly two years.  I've spoken about her a few times in earler posts (I've been gone for a while).  We were pretty serious there for a while, but things didn't work out.  It had nothing to do with her profession -- things fell apart for the reasons most failed relationships collapse.  We stayed friends for a while and then drifted apart.

no don't put this question in that category.  It was not my intent to imply that providers do this as a result of some childhood trauma or chemical addiction.  I just want to know if one is in this profession, can they maintain a normal healthy relationship outside of the fun they have here.  Read my response to MorganEllis' posts.  BTW thanks for sharing your story....that was what I was looking for.

Swingers are not providers unless there is $$$ transaction.  My question relates to providers and their personal lives. If someone 'swings' for money, they are not swingers in the traditional sense, they are providers.

May I join you?

Yes I admit this question was naive as someone pointed out.  But I am somewhat new to this hobby so please pardon my ignorance. Perhaps I should have posted my quesion on the newbie board, at least there I will be taken seriously and providers who post there are nicer and more accommodating.  Morgan, judging from your responses, you are quite jaded.  I guess answering questions from a rookie and helping someone understand and appreciate the profession is not in your best interest...luckily, other providers are not like you.  I'm sorry my inquiry was met here so negatively.  Thanks for putting me down as implied by the tone of your posts.

Yes we have normal relationships-
Normal kids-
( i have one in his 2nd year of college now )

And the other graduating from 8th grade.

Some have other careers,
We own homes
Vacation properties and we dont breathe our money up our nose.

My family and their dad know that I do this .
They still love me and accept me as me.
My friends as well, know I supplement with this as well. They are still called "friend "

Escorts need love too

How refreshing to read your post.

In my experience, even just recently when a relationship I'm in isn't working out, my job is immediately to blame I am told. I have to say the ladies who have found SO's are pretty lucky to have a guy who can handle it.

I am curious if those SO's were former clients? I imagine some of them are.

I stopped dating clients when one broke my heart pretty bad.

And I'm not so sure that I'll try another relationship anytime soon being that I feel that I need to lie to whatever man I meet in my social life about my profession because it really is hard for them to accept & I can see why.

Sara

met with a foriegn civilization, lead by a voluptuous purveyor of belly dancing....  while on this mission, the exploration of the various anatomical similarities (and dissimlarities) led to an incredible release of dopamine & phenylethylamine in certain segments of the good captain's amygdala and medial prefrontal cortex.  "Bones" also found evidence of exposure to some sort of ignition plasma, related to candle wax.  Suffice to say, the captain has been in recovery since our mission to the distant arid planet.  We have been attempting to hydrate him with copious libations... but it seems that this only causes hysterical comments about the need for warp speed travel to be implemented by this strange creature on the desert planet.  Having said this, the captain then proceeded to disrobe (not a pretty sight) and confirm the observation that a naked aroused man is not a brain surgeon, or a University president, or a Methodist Bishop or Starship Captain. He is an animal with an erection.

With respect to the "cling-ons" we did not notice any evidence of "cling-ons"  and we certainly hope that the delightful creature of that far and distant culture did not find any either?!

Kirk out.


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is there like a league of soccer moms who escort!  and could I get on the mailing list if they are all like you!  lol!  I would love to see some of the soccer mom's here!  

tee hee!  of course they love you!  how could they not! ???

Our sport of choice in my household is Hockey ! I know lots of hot hockey moms !!

the "moms" who take the kids to all the various sporting activities as "soccer moms" it is difficult to imaging calling them anything else!  It is interesting that since my divorce, I have been the "parent" to worry about all the scheduling and transport.  I do not complain as it is an opportunity to sample some of the "moms" (see my post wrt "Stacy's Mom" the song and music vid.).  

I can imagine you getting hit on quite a bit! by the "soccer dads"!  course my pick up line is not so hot!  it goes something like "hey babe, wanna come over to my place and do laundry together?!"  hee hee!

who are into kicking balls?  

But that's what it's all about right?

The lady has to maintain the fantasy for her clients on the clock. She is theirs and theirs alone.

The guy has to be at peace the the difference between on the clock and off the clock and don't read the reviews. lol

I would guess that more providers are involved in personal relationships off the clock than we realize. It can also be very difficult for some ladies to do this job and also find the level of comfort and trust necessary to maintain a relationship with an S.O. off the clock.

Excuse me for a second...

"Honey, if you want me to jump through that hoop at least hold it a little higher...oh, and thanks for not setting it on fire this time." lol

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Reo you really want to hang out with gals...

soccer mom....into kicking balls
hockey mom ...into pucking around

Thank you

GO HOCKEY............

"Your replies are more consistent with an immature hooker than a professional escort."

I'm seeking help for my repressed sea mammal molestation memories. In time, I hope to get my professional escort certification papers, and my nifty union issued jacket and secret decoder ring.

Seriously, though, I can understand you're new at this hobby, but for those of us who *aren't*, reading the same thread(s) about how SPs can't possibly have 'real' relationships does grow tired after a while...

After all, immature hookers need love too. And tylenol.

Morgan

It's got a freakin' bone in it!  And is HUGE!

I have a significant other. He knows what I do but does not want to hear the details. We are also swingers! We have a terriffic relationship (2 years now)I am a mom. They do NOT know nor do I want them to. My "business" remains discreet and all under wraps. lol See? Some providers do it all

...that women who have suffered sexual trauma end up in the sex industry.  Yes, it has always made sense to me that you'd want to relive the thing you find traumatic.  

I think it's propagated from two things: first, the most visible part of the sex industry is still the SW's.  And they are desperate, and perhaps traumatized women.  I've always said, though that if they move up, they don't become independents or high paid courtesans.  They move up by getting out of it completely.  

But there's something else at work.  I just think that culturely that people can't get over the idea that a life based around sex is something terrible.  If it's not caused by sin, then it's got to be caused by sickness.   Usually now, these notions go hand and hand.

...laughing at someone's naive question (you even admitted it) is not the same thing as laughing at someone!  Hell for all we know, you could've posted that question just to get this kind of response.  We'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and I'll even admit that we might have run with this a little too much.  Sorry your feelings took a hit.  You are correct that the Newbie Board was a better place for that type of question.  However, I suspect it would've gotten a similar (perhaps on a smaller scale) response.  Sometimes it's best to think an extra moment before hitting the "enter" button.

It all depends upon your phrasing, and the mood a particular person is in, how often they think they've heard it, and generally how sensitive they are to the question asked. You have to remember that this life is pretty badly disdained, so people might be sensitive to many questions.  

BTW, if you have any questions about providers, Morgan's website is a good place to go.  It's probably why the question annoys her, because she has made a lot of effort in answering questions-- in detail.

Some people can separate sex from love and some cannot.

Its easy to take things in a negative direction, especially on these types of topics, but I think youve made a very good point Moe. Most of us just want to be treated as good human beings, and to be given the respect we feel we deserve. Its very hard sometimes though, when somebody does something or says something that can be constued as offensive, which Ive noticed happens quite often when two people that dont know each other engage in something very peronal. This is the risk we take with this though, and I am willing to do whatever it takes to make it have the most positive outcome possible!

My heart goes out to you, Moe, because you seem like a sensitive individual like me. I hope you wont allow these responses to harden you, and keep you from expressing yourself. This is why I generally keep off the boards, because I dont want to slip and say something that ends up offending someone. Sometimes I justcant resist though!

Sara, I feel Im in a similar position. I try to keep an open mind and heart, but most of the time I feel it will be best to wait until I stop doing this until I start dating again. That may be former clients or not, but I just dont want to risk hurting myself or someone else.

Based upon my own experience, you would be amazed at how many well known PSE's are married or have an SO.  I often speak with the husband of my favorite PSE. We talk about real estate and other business matters. They've been married for many years.  The older the lady, the more likely she has a hubby or long-term SO.