The last two clients who posted reviews made my average go down...and the last two clients who posted reviews asked me to give them oks on another site...I wouldn't see either of them again.  If the shoe were on the other foot and I was doing the review of you, you'd be embarrassed...you are very old, overweight, and reviewing a woman you couldn't even dream of landing in real life. Do you guys not get that if you are going to ask for a favor you should make yourself look favorable?

By the way...I did not ask either of them to review me...they both raved about my services to my face...they both raved to me by email how much they wanted to review me as a personal favor...I'm sort of dumbfounded on the whole thing...twice in a row?  Weird.  It's not like the reviews were bad...I just didn't think they matched up with the raving they gave in person.

Go ahead Hobbyists...tear me a new one.  I'm just venting, much in the same way guys vent about an appointment getting cancelled on them when it happens to us once a damn week.

...is not aware of the grade inflation that exists on TER.  He has only given one 9 in looks and one 9 in performance in 26 reviews.  His grade would appear to be fair in light of his body of reviews.

Or that a 7 is a bad appearance score.  The obsession with numerical scores is insane, and the only ones who should care about it are the women who give a shit about rankings.

Why is it that certain providers think an 8 is a bad score?  Or that 7 is a bad score?  Honestly, if you think about it, a 5 is average.  And a 10 is basically perfection.  So how does 7 even end up being a bad score?

As far as the reviews being on the other foot...you can start your own reverse review site if you want.  But not everything is symmetrical here.  You get our screening info and sometimes our real names.  We don't get yours.  We pay for sex; you offer it.  We don't put out bids to every woman, asking if they will fuck us for money.  The only "supply" of pussy comes from you, who offer it.  If you really think everything should be symmetrical, then tell us your real name next time, okay?

You said:

"It's not like the reviews were bad...I just didn't think they matched up with the raving they gave in person."

You also said:  "The last two clients who posted reviews made my average go down."

So basically you think that a client who raves about you automatically means that you should score higher than a 7 on the looks scale?

I'm guilty as well. Once you see a real 10 then you adjust......

for more than a few months realize that writing reviews is a drama filled waste of time.

Remember...a TER 7 means she's pretty average looking...probably closer to butt ugly.  Hell...IRL I doubt anyone ever does a second take.

That's why we PM and email our pals to know the real story...right?  LOL

and replace it with a simpler system...

Something like as follows:

1. RIP OFF
2. Not Recommended
3. Recommended with reservations
4. Highly Recommended.

Of course wording can be tweaked, but you get the general idea.  I believe it will change the hobbying landscape quite a bit.

What matters is what is written in the review and who has written it...

Half of the people don't know how to grade properly. Just the other day I saw a review of a lady where the guy was raving about her and still gave her 6. The lady in that case has right to get upset, but I think with an 8, no one should get bent out of shape...

Eat some Chinese food dear, you will feel better. I just had some Chinese food and Diet Soda, and my cranky self is feeling a lot better already...

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... whining and moaning over your average ratings.

Seriously? Are you that obsessed with the ratings?

I have a suggestion for you...

FOCUS on giving your clients the best possible service and forget about the reviews.

If you can't forget about the reviews, that will show up in your performance and the ratings will reflect that.

Serpius

Maybe that's why my reviews seem more credible to some.

that guys had to agree to add 2-4 points on every review?

Seems that is the average overinflated score out there.

Something about they didn't want the hookers thinking they weren't the hottest gals on the planet  LOL

on both sides.

Most johns have NO balls to tell the real story...and most hookers have such a grandiose inflated self-image of themselves.

Hey...a match made in heaven  

But there is some truth to it.

easy answer..90% of the clowns in this hobby are cheap, self centered egotistical fucks who could care less about the ladies they fuck..

I think you're just too sensitive.  Give your clients a break.

And as Pros...they have a set of by-laws they need to address.

And being cheap, self-centered egotistical fucks is NOT part of it.

Meeting at 10 for the Royal Order of Professional Hobbyists  

No clowns allowed!

Instead of just a bunch of responses to the various branches on this thread let me just say it all at once...LOL, you guys.
It's not that I'm obsessed with the rating...I wouldn't care, it's that they asked me for return favors which makes me question their OWN thought processes....also, it's my business...if I was a restaurant being reviewed on one of those business websites and somebody said like, well...the food was pretty decent I'd eat there again but it's not the best I've had...and then they wrote to me asking for a referral for their business I'd be like, huh?  Wouldn't you?

Curly, I SO totally agree with you (maybe for once? LOL)...forget the numbers and just give us an overall opinion of if you recommend it, or not or REALLY recommend it...I totally dig that.

I am not obsessed with numbers, I can never receive a ten...I would never expect more than an 8 for looks, I'm almost 40 and definitely never had being a model on my list of possibilities but look at the reviews on what these guys say about my service and sometimes the numbers are just weird to me...I agree about looking at a guys overall scores and in most cases I rate high comparatively, trouble is, guys aren't always going to look at the reviewers profile to see how he reviews...they are going to look at the overall average...and my main point is that, if you are going to give me a score that makes my average go down, DON'T ASK FOR A FAVOR...LOL.

I expected pretty much everything else you guys said.

As you were soldiers.

Just one question. If what you say is true then why did you say you wouldn't see them again? That doesn't seem in line with your position.

Because I can be selective and they are not gentlemen that I will choose to see again...one had terrible halitosis and the other was older than santa claus

That a 7 is a bad score.  It really isn't, if you're being truthful about it.  I mean, not everyone can be an 8, 9 or 10 in the sack or in looks.  The very notion of these numerical scores implies that there is RELATIVE VALUE, right?  It's not just a 7 on an absolute scale; it's a 7 on a RELATIVE scale, meaning that it's you versus the rest of the provider population.  It's both, of course.

I understand where you are coming from, however.  It's not necessarily how everyone else is gonna look at those scores, and perhaps what you are trying to say is that it's not so much that the average numerical score is going down as much as the recent trend is that your reviews "seem" to be getting worse, when that may not be the case at all.  And I understand that in your position, you can't expect that reviewers are gonna look at that, but take the time to read the review and perhaps deduce that the last two reviewers grade on a harder scale than the previous ones...or that they actually loved the session but it doesn't necessarily get reflected in the scores.

I think when you say "it brings my average down," the implication is that you are one of those girls who is obsessed with her numerical number and her rank in the provider league tables, so to speak.

You said that what basically upsets you is that they asked for references.  Gotcha.  But remember that if it's a whitelist, it's a binary outcome.  Either you recommend him or you don't.  If it's another kind of recommendation, I have no idea...and I don't want to speak out of turn.

Thanks for your clarification.

As I have said a dozen times, this is a free market.  You can charge whatever you want and attach whatever terms you want.  We can pay whatever we want and attach whatever terms we want.

Only when the two intersect do we have a transaction.

and still gave her a score that lowered her average.

Even in my newbiness, I agree that the numbers are a joke.  I've read reviews that almost horrified me and the reviewer still gave them a "nice time" and actually said they would repeat.  Maybe the orgasm is the be all to end all for some.

I hear ya girl. It is not ONLY the scores, but the fact that the score does not match the stellar details in the body. I mean when a guy says, "She was the best I ever had" and only grants a 7, wtf sense does that make?

I would not worry too much about overall averages though. You're in Alaska where the guys out number the women 4 to 1 ha ha.

yes we have a saying here: the odds are good, but the goods are odd. lol

If I lived in your area, I might be hesitant to see you. It would not be because someone gave you 7's for scores. (I take outlier scores with a grain of salt.)   It would not be because you made the choice not to see particular clients again.  (A provider's right to decide who to see or not to see is fundamental.) The reason for choosing not to see you is the way with which you publicly talk smack about clients over minor transgressions.

FYI, that last post of yours where you talked smack about the clients' personal attributes is one that especially made me arrive at  my thinking. There's a right way and a wrong way to address concern's about a client's hygiene issues. Back when I was new to hobbying, a provider found a discreet way to communicate her concerns to me, and I took care of the issue right away. I still see her today. But if she had chosen to embarrass me or another client  publicly over such a transgression, I wouldn't have seen her again.

Also, the appearance scores are designed in such a way that anything 5 or below is considered an insult.  Being given a "5 - Plain" or below indicates that the provider is not good looking.  But a "7 - Attractive" indicates that one is good looking,

The rankings for performance are a little bit murkier.  "4 - She just laid there" and below is clearly an insult.  "5 - Average" is an incredibly badly worded ranking, making it unclear if it's meant to be good or bad,  But "7 - Hot time" indicates that one enjoyed themselves.

1 - I was really scared
2 - Ugly
3 - Homely
4 - OK if you are drunk
5 - Plain
6 - Nice
7 - Attractive
8 - Really Hot
9 - Model material
10 - One in a lifetime

1 - A total rip-off
2 - Should have stayed home
3 - Barely worth the effort
4 - She just laid there
5 - Average
6 - Nice time
7 - Hot time
8 - Went the extra mile
9 - Forgot it was a service
10 - One in a lifetime

As they say in my business, there are no bad securities, only bad prices.

So as long as a guy perceives value, he might see a girl who isn't as hot but who does everything he wants otherwise for a reasonable price.

Like it or not, when you post something on a public board that is disparaging, it says a lot about you.  In this case, it gives off the vibe that you are petty.

to both above comments...I'm on this board to vent and share with honest and open integrity...I'm not here looking for clients...when someone says something like I wouldn't see you because of _______(fill in the blank)...or if I was you I would run my business like _____________(fill in the blank) I just laugh.  You have already ruled yourself out as someone I would potentially see.  I'm sorry, but I don't need to be schooled on how to garner the business of people I would never see for any price.
I'm uber selective as is.  Why would I want to see anyone who can't respect a person with an opinion?  So I could care less what you think of me for telling the truth.  I did not put anyone's name on here or point to anyone specific, I simply am at once venting and giving advice...don't ask for favors when doing someone a disservice.
Someone said I should not complain about a client but tell them privately so they can adjust...well I am sorry to say there is nothing much can be done about chronic halitosis or age.  I'm simply telling you, these guys were lucky to see me, they got their one shot and they are not clients I will repeat with...gentleman who were much better clients: more virile, more kind, better looking, respectful (on and on) gave me higher scores and more flattering reviews and asked for nothing in return.
My clients can feel good about themselves because I don't just see any asswipe with a handful of cash...if you can't handle the truth, don't read my posts....go look for some self-serving, pandering low self esteem bimbo who needs 3 clients a day and will tell you all the pretty lies you want to hear.

Have at it.  No one would tell you otherwise.

Certainly I don't have a dog in this fight.  It's just discussion to me, you know?

I'm sure anyone on this board will tell you that no discussion topic is off-limits to me, and that I have no problem with unedited, uncensored talk.  So bring it if you're in a fighting mood...happy to oblige.

But the difference for me and many others is...I don't take this shit personally.  See...I don't make my living by doing this, and most of the girls who do this understand that it's a business and that it's one with a pretty short relative shelf life.

With boards like this, it doesn't take a lot of bad press to start destroying the business, especially when you're seeing so many girls coming into this fray because the economy is so bad.  Lots of women get addicted to the money here, and this is usually a multiple of what they can otherwise earn in a legitimate job.

This isn't news to you, and if you have such a hatred of some of your clients...well, at some point that might come out to bite you in the ass.  But you know, some guys and girls have enough resources to deal with those consequences.  If you're one of them, great.