So, if it's too sensitive for a tongue, how is it going to take a dick? Just curious!!!

Penetration is not the same thing as direct tongue-to-clit stimulation.  In fact, depending on the anatomy of the two parties involved sometimes there is no clitoral stimulation at all during penetrative sex.

a few hundred licks each. Just say 1200 licks in one day. She works 3 days or 3600 licks.
My dick would be raw if it was licked 3600 times in 3 days. I would be begging for a CBJ, lol.

I don't DATY at every session, and there have been times when I had detected some discomfort on the provider's part. It does not mean too much to me, so I can do without DATY anyhow.

its tat lizard tongue. Oh and the droolers, I hate the droolers. Iwill stop kissing anyone who grosses me out like this. How can they even think thats sexy or a turn on in anyway?
Or the guys who want to just jam their tongue as far down your throat as they can.So yucky.Its just not kissing.So when I read a ladies reviews and most seem to say she enjoys kissing and then she has that odd review that says she doesn't like to kiss I know hes the bad kisser.

And we don't become so sensitive afterwords that we don't want to play anymore or need a pause.

If DATY is an interest you have adjust your technique or see providers who actually enjoy it with clients.

Ditto, ditto, and ditto to everything BDG just said. She pretty much nailed all of your possible explanations, and the apropriate remedies for each.

PS. If the solution involves more practice at DATY to improve/perfect technique, I will humbly volunteer to provide all the instruction and guidance you might need

Anatomically, for many women, the clitorus is not directly stimulated during intercourse.  Sometimes the clitoral hood protects it, sometimes the clitorus is located out of the line of fire.  Soooo....some women can have sex with a clitorus to sensitive for direct oral stimulation.

I understand and I'm sure that you'll understand that my wallet is too sensitive to pay full price for half an experience.  If she's worn raw, she needs to rest and recover but not on my dime.

Why such complex responses for what's an obvious situation?

You laying there licking her is boring to her, she's not getting pleased by it. You are not her boyfriend. You are probably not her type.

Why is this so hard for some of you to understand? You really think she's getting turned on by half a dozen different strangers eating her every day?

you are not as skilled as you think you are and the ladies may not always admit, they just don't like the way you do it?????

Few reasons ladies would not allow men to lick their kitties:

* facial hair (maybe a close and smooth shaving on your face is necessary?)

* mustaches! (ouch ouch ouch IT hurts like hell on a shaved kitty)

* dental problems (if you mouth smells or looks nasty, ladies will not allow kitty licking for the obvious reasons...or EVEN DFK!)

if none of the above is applicable...then:

* you need to learn how to eat pussy (your technique not only sucks but also HURTS!)

Maybe is not about ladies refusing certain services - sometimes is about the men performing them!

My 2 cents worth of lickin' good!

BDG

I'm very sad to report that

Not most men thank God or else I'd change job and it would be impossible for me to take any pleasure while being paid. However daty is like kissing; if it's not done well it can be annoying but for different reasons.

Some men's approach to kissing is to come straight out with their mouth WIDE open and tongue out (?!) That tends to wake me up and freak me out at the same time as having my face licked from chin to noose and ear to ear isn't what I call sexy nor erotic. It always reminds me of a little boy who is going thru the Oedipus complex and wants to kiss mommy like what he sees on tv so instead of coming with lips closed he tries the wide open mouth approach. Of course in the middle of hot sex sticking ur tongue out and kissing that way without coming first with lips is all good but as an opener and a first kiss: not the best. It's a bit like starting penetration in full speed mode; my engine isn't their yet let me warm up Please forgive the car analogy!

Now for Daty, my only complaint is when I tell someone: "lighter, I prefer it more gentle" and the gentleman continues to apply pressure, hey after telling him twice while my nerve endings are fully irritated I too will say: "oh I'm too sensitive" as oppose to have a full fledged confrontation and say: "you're not getting the pressure cues". I can educate a potential SO about what I like but confronting a client about the fact that he is not getting the pressure cues isn't my place to do so unless he really feels open to it and insists but it hasn't happen to me yet. Usually the men who are that open to receive feed backs do not need to change their bed side manners very much as their openness to feed back lead them to be good lovers over time.

I'm not implying at all that you have bad bed side manners as I've never had sex with you so I have no clue. Maybe it's just your beard that irritates the ladies, that's very common. Maybe the ladies have had too much clit stimulation in a short period of time prior your appointments but if you try to follow where she's directing your head or any cues she's trying to give, you may have a better time. Now if you pick high volume ladies that are too stimulated before you get there there isn't much you can do. I've known some high volume ladies who were able to give the same service client after client but these girls are far and few in between. It's just human to feel irritated after a while.

I'm no doctor and my knowledge of biology is soooo limited but I'd think that there is more nerve endings on the clit then in the vagina so that's why ur dick versus ur tongue might be better

Happy hobbying

PS: For those who don't know me, please forgive my grammar mistakes as my first language is French and my entire education was in my first language. Before the age of 18 y/o (yes last year Mickey I didn't speak any English other than yes, no, ketchup

Cleo said it best... even seeing only 2 guys who are overly aggressive on the clit, can make you overly sensitive. And the clit has the same amount of nerve endings that an ENTIRE male penis has.... the vagina in most cases, has nothing to do with the clit, as unless you're lined up exactly, the clit will not even be simulated during intercourse. The vagina does NOT have the same nerve endings, or feelings that are experienced through clitoral stimulation.

I've also heard from(and experienced on occasion) from guys who state that, 'She kept trying to pull away, or push my head back, but I had a lock on her'. When a girl is crawling backwards away from you... you're probably applying too much pressure. Also... just like after male ejaculation, and most men are super sensitive... well, so are a lot of females. So, continuing to apply steady pressure after orgasm, can be very uncomfortable, and sometimes even painful. Just like most men like a small break after orgasm... so do some women

Not even having sex whatsoever, if I masturbate a lot in a relatively short period of time my clit is overly sensitive (don't worry I time myself that's in between tours). So it doesn't take much to get to the point of "too sensitive".

The break in between orgasms is a great point. I often have to explain that to clients. They would love to see me orgasm back to back but sometimes it's just not possible as the sensitivity kicks in. It's exactly the same as if we insisted on playing with your penis' right after your orgasms; you'd stop us real fast.

well said!!

=)

The lady says she is too sensitive rather than telling you that you are not good at it...
that you equate vaginal intercourse with cunnilingus reinforces that thought.
What she is most likely really wanting to tell you is to stop poking her urethra with a pointy tongue.

If a lot of women are telling you this...chances are even better you are not good at it.
Bad cunnilingus can be as painful if not more so than a toothy BJ...
if a woman gave you a toothy BJ wouldn't you say you were too sensitive?
and it wouldn't have anything to do with your ability to perform vaginal intercourse...
unless her vagina has teeth, but that would be rare.

I think I might be able to handle your concerns as far as daty is concerned with you.

I mean, with your guidance of course, if by some chance I'm not doing something to your satisfaction?

I certainly want to make a good first impression...

BTW, I truly believe when it happens it'll be more like, 'yes! no! don't stop!' The rest I'd love for you talk dirty in French for me!

Dear SensualCleoforyou:
What type of orientation would you give a regular customer with respect to performing DATY on you? Also what literature would you recommend for those who do indulge in that libidinal activity? Also what would be you ideal experience with DATY?

I have no problem having a lady playing with my dick after I cum. Whether it's orally stimulated, or manually.

'Get that sonuvabitch up so we can fuck again!' is my motto! lol!!!

I wasn't saying I get lazy after orgasms whether it's my own or the gent's. I'm just saying it's nice to keep in mind we could be sensitive regardless of the gender if sex goes on for a very long period of time. I'm an escort, I know how to follow cues from my partners and I can have a few orgasms in a row but I do reach a limit where I can use a 15 mins break to recover; I'm only human and not trying to make it to the Olympics anytime soon.

i don't know what it is that I'm doing, but providers keep screaming at me "don't stop."  I don't like being screamed at, so I obey, but they just seem to want more of whatever it is I'm doing to their "down there" with my tongue.  One provider locked me in her hotel room, wouldn't let me leave and canceled some next appointments right in front of me.  Another gave me my money back, plus $100 and said, "you deserve this."  Suggestions?

I have the feeling you need no guidance at all and you master the art.

Mickey baby oui oui mon cheri viens par ici, surtout n'arrete pas ca y est je jouis!! Something like that?

Oh Dios, sí! Quiero que tan mal! Permítanme placer como nunca he sido complació antes!

Ay, ay ay!!!

Sure, but to me that's not the point.  She's the provider and she's getting paid to do, within reason, what the customer wants.  DATY is within reason by any definition of GFE.  As the earlier poster pointed out, if she's too sore to do it, it shouldn't be on his dime.

I think you just want Cleo to talk dirty to you!  Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Keep in mind that Mikey is an incurable romantic!
"Ay!  Mamacita!!!!

The truth is I don't know how many licks to what side of a generic clit is the best recipe for a successful daty and frankly I don't want to know. If you get too technical you kill the whole thing. I'm not the one to read books when we're talking about something so instinctive such as sex. No PHD needed to have awesome sex; have you ever heard the insult: "you're having sex like an intellectual?" If you're not able to follow the dance during the act and turn off ur intellectual switch, chances are nobody's having much fun.

Very important detail: a full fledged wordy discussion during the act is a turn off (unless we're saying dirty words to each other).

I'm not into licking women but I suspect that different women like their daty differently but I could be wrong as I'm sure someone could dig up some "important" studies (I will never read) on a proven cunnilingus techniques that leads to orgasms.

I don't give much directions other than the occasional: "higher.. lighter... harder... slower, faster, please don't stop!! Oh baby I'm coming!!" or in desperate situations my hand and foot in the guy's forehead pushing him back in hope that finally the pressure gets lighter Just kidding!

Oh, and I should add a VERY important fact that many men don't seem to know... When we say: "I'm coming!!" it means if you stop or change what you're busy doing at that exact moment : you RUIN our orgasm(s). I'm sure you can't find that important detail clearly stated in too many books but if you care in the first place to make us orgasm try not to screw it up while we're busy having it as many men take the: "I'm coming!" cue as: "I've done my job, I'm stopping the motion". Let's try to keep in mind that we can have loooonnnng and/or multiple orgasms so pretty please don't stop the stimulation right in the middle of it!!!

In recap: if we say don't stop there are strong chances we mean it literally (even if we're adding special effects for your ego's sake it still means you're doing something right

One thing is for sure though; if we pull back when you're: kissing, caressing, licking, fucking... there is most likely a strong message to be heard and you'd be surprised to witness that some men try to hold you back even closer and tighter while getting a firmer grip on you so you don't squirm away. At that moment we feel the world can be a very lonely place lol!

It's important to add that some men do not want to please a provider during a paid session and that's all good with us. When someone is paying me I understand and accept it's not about me at all and I can have just as much fun taking great care of the guy's needs, wishes and expectations (I'm easy but not cheap.

However, if a client wants to please me and is not receptive to my cues (let's face it it's a small % but that's what this thread is about) that means he not receptive during unpaid sex as well; I find that very sad. Most likely he has gone through his life - and has good chances to continue on this tangent - not being able to share those great fulfilling experiences with (unpaid or paid) women.

Well, clearly Cleo, DATY is a subject dear to your heart, given your lengthy (and delightful) exposition on the subject.  Have you ever thought of teaching the subject?  I would definitely enroll in your DATY 101, 201, 301 and 401 courses, professor.  There is always more to be learned.

One is that you would never hear that from me. LOL. Two is the clit doesn't take the dick. Even if her clit is tender, it would have nothing to do with intercourse.

The subject is inspiring as opposed to the usual anal, facial and CIM I can't relate to.

I'd be very curious to read about other providers take on the matter; what they enjoy or dislike during the act of sex altogether (not limited to daty). I can only talk about myself as it's not a discussion I've had in the past with other ladies because I usually don't care much about what makes them orgasm but this time my curiosity is sure peaked and I'd be interested to know what they find pleasurable or a big turn off. Alias' are welcome as I understand you can't be as open with your given identity depending on what you have to express.

I will go with the conspiracy theory - the word is out that the OP is a little, um, energetic when he DATY.

Gentle, work to it gradually and let her either give in, or demand to blow or screw you. What is not to like?

Zig

Sorry you two, but this isn't a chat room. If you guys want to hook up, you'll have to do it in private.

A little flirting is ok, even encouraged, but there is a limit on how much "flirting" you can do on the public boards, and I think you two reached it a while ago. Thats what the chat rooms are for.

sorry to be a buzzkill, but that's the way it's got to be.

Some of us ARE very sensitive before and/or after orgasms. I personally enjoy lighter stimulation and DO need at least a few minutes to "recover" afterward. As you can probably guess, being on the sensitive side is a mixed blessing.