You cannot control what is going on in the hobby world but you can be prudent and careful with the hobby.
You can talk and write all you want but those who do, DO and those who don't, DONT. It is called life.
Someone told me that BBFS happens in the P4P world. I would like to know how prevalant it is and how a provider would get to that point? Would it take STD testing, long time client, etc.?
Way too risky. Would never do it. Find the thought disgusting.
It's not always the providers choice. There are men out there that will slip the condom off.
But yes, I have seen providers advertise BBFS and it really freaks me out. I have also received emails requesting it. These messages get deleted. But I'm sure it does happen.
I will allow this thread as long as it reamains in the most general of terms.
Folks, remember that any references to any particular provider or hobbyist engaging in such activities will result in the entire thread being pulled and the offending poster being moderated.
In the meantime in will break out some popcorn and will some one please pass me some butter. I will not insist that you all play nice, but I do insist you stay within TER guidelines,
Have fun.lol
oh hell. why didnt the poster wait til monday to post this?
this is going to get fracking interesting. if this thread doesnt blow TER up, then I dont know what will.
wow.
*grabbing my helmet and ducking for cover*
GaG...please pass me a shovel and some body bags. when this is all over....
someone has to clean up. lol.
Contrary to all the denials I am sure will pop up - "I would never do that", sure it happens; not with most gals but a gent can certainly find it. I can't recall seeing ads that offer it other than 1 or 2 in the porn star escort world.
FWIW in the porn star escort world getting an AIM test and then just asking around will get a gent BBFS if he wants it.
You cannot control what is going on in the hobby world but you can be prudent and careful with the hobby.
You can talk and write all you want but those who do, DO and those who don't, DONT. It is called life.
... quite unexpectedly mounted me bareback. I was NOT happy but at the moment there wasn't much else to do be enjoy it. After all, it was in and what was done was done. So yes, unbelieveably, it does happen and even on the first (and in this case LAST) encounter.
In the military I had been briefed to minimize risk of unprotected sex by urinating immedietly after and washing with soap and hot water. I did both of those things.
Two to three weeks of worry about the common issues arising and none did. Then months of 'what if' in the back of my mind till I had a full exam. And really not completely relaxing about it for another year.
MVR
PS: Last time I mentioned this in a thread, two or three guys PMed asking for the name of the woman who did me bare. Go figure.
Hopefully this will be within guidelines.
I had that happen once as well. I had probably seen her over a dozen times and what started as pure manual release the first time progressed as I continued to see her. I had mentioned BBFS after about the second instance of CFS, but I never actually expected it. Then one time just as she was reaching for the cap I mentioned it again and she said ok and then without a word it happened. It was never mentioned verbally from that point on but from that instance onward it always happened. At the time she was the only provider I was seeing.
of just about everything by engaging in BBFS. What many fail to take into account that you also fall into an increased risk category by performing DATY - especially if you have a sore in your mouth, bleeding gums etc and by permitting BBBJ - if she has an open sore in HER mouth or bleeding gums etc.
DO I know that it happens... yes i do... what if it unexpectedly is offered to you - turn it down, even in civie life... turn it down - you don't know where that thing has been...
unless of course, you just found out that you have 2 months to live and you get your kicks by taking real risks...
In this business and especially on this board, no I can't see it happening. Even in the civie world most ladies will insist on a cover. I had a LT SO that insisted on it but every so often would allow it; (passion of the moment or whatever)but her issue was pregnancy not STD. If some of the guys here can't handle the cover they usually revert back to FBSM. This hobby is not for everyone.
Empirically your statement would be wrong lol It does happen with gents and ladies on this board; not often but it does. Either purposely or in the heat of the moment or .... but it does happen
Say hi to Mr Rourke and Tattoo for me!
i am aware of some utr providers that engage in bbfs. their clientele is very low number. That is how they justify their stupidity. NOT WITH ME.
As long as i have been a provider, i insist that my dates wear condoms, the only one who has had me bb has been my partner, he has that privilege. nobody else..
I donate plasma and am a bone marrow donor so i get tested every few weeks for every STD out there known to us and have come up clean everytime.. So I Have to be very careful!
Sure there have been guys who even wanted me to do a CBJ and that one well? was the last one i ever did and wont do again. So i think its a reality. if you don't use condoms you don't know what u are "sinking into" and if you do? You're home safe and sound! ok! bring me the buttered popcorn!!!
SweetPeach
Enjoying the day !!!
I have been offered BBFS at least a dozen times in the last couple of years. MOST of the providers are known and some are well reviewed.
Anyone who has been around a while understands this.
But almost none will admit they allow it. That word spreads by word of mouth, not reviews. How common? Don't know but I've heard numbers like 20%, but without knowing the population that's a meaningless number.
I've been offered it a some times, always after we have started the session, usually for additional $ but not always. Always turned it down and pass on that provider from then on.
One provider (no name, no city) became locally well known for doing BBFS in exchange for excellent reviews. With some others it was "strongly rumored" if you poured enough drinks she'd allow it.
Don't wanna give myself anything
some provides wanting to do BB cameltoe slide.
Even stranger, I've been offered BBCT slide but yet they balk at BBBJCIM.
I just don't get it sometimes.
..."but yet they balk at BBBJCIM...."
That could be a texture/taste issue and nothing more. Nothing more off putting when a provider vomits on your crotch.
of course it's reality, but a majority of providers don't go there, for valid reasons. have been offered by some well-reviewed girls and Porn Stars, especially after seeing them a couple of times and there is a mutual likeability.
there's also a lot of sanctimony out there. for all those that swear they 'never' would do such a thing, how many of you ask the partner to show tests? would seem it should be a 'requirement' for all partners regardless of act or covered or not.
to keep things really 'safe' exchange tests, but that won't happen because it's probably too inconvenient, especially for many of the sanctimonious out there.
I will date myself, early 50s, aren't all of us ( older ) folks lucky we made it through the 70s when sport f**king was the name of the game.
I feel really sorry for the younger generation. I turned 17-years old during the "Summer of Love" (1967 for you kids) and fucked madly for the next 25 years.
Sex has basically sucked ever since because it will never come close to duplicating my many earlier experiences. Sadly, a shadow has hung over recreational sex ever since, and while it may be the norm for those coming of age since 1990, those of us with a different reference frame know how much has been lost. And you can take all your magic lubes and your special colored condoms and it still sucks ass!
In fact, I'm always shocked at how little progress has been made with condoms since I first fumbled around in the dark trying to put one on the night I lost my virginity.
Hell I'm in my 60's and started fucking in the 60's when shaking hands or fucking was almost interchangeable. No cares no worries no guilt the era of FREE love.
been sharing needles the week before.
or engaging in some other risky activities in between tests.
TREAT EVERYONE like they have something bad. I feel that is the wisest course of action.
What does pulling out papers do?
I've had guys show me their papers.
I feel no different and no less suspicious of them for it, maybe more since it feels like an attempt to get me to go BB.
Not gonna happen.
life has never been the same.
I think BBFS is rare in the hobby but I have been offered it.
15 years in the hobby. Based on my experience, BBFS tends to fall down ethnic lines. After 3+ encounters, for me it falls down to:
With Asians --> 40% for BBFS, but you will typically have to initiate (I've seen a large sample size -- around 20+).
With whites --> 20% for BBFS (smaller sample size -- 2 out of 10)
With latinas --> 10% for BBFS (small sample size -- 1 out of 10)
Sorry, no experience with blacks.