I had a regular (Asian girl, believe it or not - lol) with a formerly flat rear that had butt implants. They improved her look quite a bit, but felt hard to the touch. They felt like the hard plastic thigh pads in a football uniform. For that reason, I didn't much like them. Now I'm content just to enjoy a flat butt.
Maybe I'm missing something but if I was a client I wouldn't spend a penny on someone I wasn't attracted to regardless of how cheap they were. Heck I wouldn't even contact them at all. Mind you this is not the same as being bait and switched or getting crappy service. This is men contacting providers stating they aren't hot enough for their rates and should lower them why spend even a penny on someone you aren't attracted to? Serious question
when you say "...I wouldn't spend a penny on someone I wasn't attracted to...", emphasis on the word "I".
Men do take into account things like looks as well as performance, menu, and of course price. It's not a matter of right or wrong, it's just what is. You, of course, have the right to stick to your guns and tell guys that my price is my price. They are just being cheapskates thinking they can talk you down.
This is no different than what goes on in my own business day in, day out. It's what we signed up for.
But being a hooker living by both your looks and your reputation does mean it's a bit more personal when your looks are insulted.
I do agree that what these guys are saying "might" be the truth, they might be willing to go up to $450 hr for "the girl of their dreams" but are only willing to pay a lower price to someone that they don't find as attractive. There is nothing wrong with this type of "thinking" it only becomes rude when they vocalize their opinion directly to a woman in such an insulting way.
Yes it's rude, but it's also part of what you sign up for when becoming a hooker. Put it this way, women are insulted all the time for FREE, at least the OP gets $450 hr which should take the sting out of the occasional insult. lol
They just are messaging them and saying it to undercut the provider to get under their skin? Or to get a lower price?
Different strokes for different folks, everyone is attracted to different things. To say someone should lower their prices because they aren't YOUR type is ridiculous.
For example alot of people love mustard, I find it absolutely revolting. Instead of going to grocery store and demanding they lower their mustard prices o just simply don't buy it and I wouldn't buy it if it was on sale for a penny. Hell I wouldn't take it for free.
Yes, but if by eating that mustard you gave you an intense orgasm...
It wouldn't it would make me sick
;-(
Different strokes for different folks, everyone is attracted to different things. To say someone should lower their prices because they aren't YOUR type is ridiculous.
For example alot of people love mustard, I find it absolutely revolting. Instead of going to grocery store and demanding they lower their mustard prices o just simply don't buy it and I wouldn't buy it if it was on sale for a penny. Hell I wouldn't take it for free.
These guys are not saying you are NOT attractive to them. They are saying for the amount asked you are not attractive ENOUGH to them. There is a big different between that an not be attracted at all or not being the right type.
Stop trying to put it in some binary view and it might make a bit more sense for you.
Personally, I completely agree with you!
However, being a man, I can understand how the URGE can overtake some common sense decisions. For example, someone might look for a 15 minute BNG. I think you can imagine that this type of hook-up has very little to do with attractiveness and more on releasing the urge. Remember the two bagger Joke? One bag over her head, and one over mine in case her bag falls off. So, yeah, I agree with you, but I understand the other side too.
We like to give the benefit of our dicks to anyone who appreciates it. 
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Beyond that it is cruel to comment on someone's looks for most any reason, including price haggling.
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So yes, men will have different price standards vs looks. But gentlemen won't comment negatively on someones looks.
a guy who just wants to take a jab at someone...
Saying something like that to anyone isn't going to bring about a positive result. The lady isn't going to say...OK, ill knock off a hundred for the session. No...its 100 percent guaranteed to piss her off...which unless they're completely delusional, they already know thats going to be the end result, so contacting a lady to make a statement like that was never about trying to set an appointment...its a time waster with an axe to grind against women. Or simply looking to make someone else feel as inadequate as he most certainly feels about himself.
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And excuse all the typos...TER really could use an edit tab.
You can edit. Go to the flat view. (Make sure you are logged in.) By your post is an Actions button and it has an edit option. Once you edit the message it usually gets kicked into moderation and disappears for a while until it is approved.
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I think the automatic moderation thing is a pain, not the editing part.
That the edit option is only good for four hours after your initial post, but you can edit it as many times as you want during that window.
You don't need to be in Flat Mode to reach the Edit function.
I don't think I have ever put that extra step in, but that doesn't make him stupid, only forgetful, like the rest of us old fuckers.
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So I investigated how to do it in tree mode. Seems if you click on your own subject line it pops it to the top and gives the Action button which has the edit option.
That's how I do it. It moves your post to the top of the page and from there, the button on the lower right will take you to edit, just like Nick said.
If he never figured out how to do it until now (as he admits below) he never actually knew. Ergo he could not forget. Ergo, he is stupid.
You two really make this far too easy.
Damn...all this over me being too fucking dumb to figure out how to edit my own posts....
Just note who was helpful and who was useless and assume that pattern will continue into the future.
I'm coming up to my 1000th provider I have seen before the end of the year, so I've been around, and I don't think there is anything wrong with your rates. They are competitive in the places I hobby with other indies. I especially appreciate the fact that you understand the finer points of marketing in your rate structure. If I was in your city, I would be doing the 3-hr session. Its very attractive for older guys like me who appreciate the social aspect of seeing an escort as well as the physical.
Some men just don't know how to stay in their lane. Its like the guy in a $600 off-the-rack suit strolling the Rolls Royce lot, acting like a buyer, which he will never be unless they take 90% off the price. Yours is the same situation. There will always be guys who can't afford you, so their answer is to try to get a discount rather than shop at their own price range. Using your appearance as an excuse to ask for a discount is bad form and low class. You probably don't want a guy that thinks this way as a customer anyway. It has the potential for ongoing drama.
I do what you say, and if I don't find some attraction in the photos, why make contact at all? I have never asked for a discount on the rate, but I am always attracted to a price structure like yours that rewards a customer who will book an extended session. (BTW, I loved your photo shoot from the Voodoo Lounge, one of my favorite hangouts on my monthly trips to Vegas).
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You're right. If you drive a Pinto why are you looking at Ferraris? Well, anyone can dream. But you have to be realistic. Fuck.
And I certainly don't fucking condone blowing the rent on a fucking woman. Pro or not. If you do you got problems and I'd be more than fucking happy to punch you right where your fucking jaw bone meets your skull, knocking you out, and that's the easiest fucking hurt you'll get, lol!...
Er, Jack Dunphy. He's the dimwit who claims to negotiate girls' rates, so it may be one of his lines. He's certainly stupid enough to use it.
Bottom line: some guys are cheap AND stupid. And, yes, that's a stupid line.
Just because!
How did I miss this post of yours? And don't say "You were drunk" especially because it's true.
ACTUALLY I'm fucking on vacation, again. For some fucking reason they keep letting me have my fucking time off. And yes, I am drunk, so fuck you! lol!
The thing is.... Wait. WTF was the fucking question?
Alright. You know wtf pisses me off? A few weeks ago I fucking asked wtf if anyone wanted to fucking do another mother fucking M&G.
Not fucking tomorrow, cuz not even I is fucking ignorant to the fucktards and their fucking mandates as fucking far as fucking traveling. Fucking pricks.
I fucking won't get into it even though the fuckfaces that make these fucking rules are the fucking first to fucking break them. Pelosi has no fucking problem getting her hair done. Putting a fucking dress on a pig and doing as she says and not what she does.
ANYfucking way, I'm so fucking down to do a long vacation Thanks-fucking-giving in Vegas again.
By then, a certain fucking president will win his second term, fucking douchebag Dems will construct even more shit for another four years cuz they're fucking sore losers and they'll have to fucking live with it!
Or not.
It'll be something to fucking rejoice, or some people will just have to fucking turn to their fucking people to pay their fucking bills...!
I refuse to be a fucking part of it!...
November 4th, for some fucking reason, the virus will disappear if the Democraps win. If the 'Pubs win, there will be another virus, Russian scandal, voter conspiracy, wtfever.
It ain't fucking enough the Dems are walking through the cemetaries, taking down names from people that fucking died 100 years ago that all of a fucking sudden rose from the grave to vote for another fucker that's fucking basically dead in the first fucking place if you heard him talk...!
Wow that is a lot of fucking! Lol
I can't fucking help my fucking self some fucking times. Fuck me. Fucking literally!...
entertaining and contains some statements its hard to disagree with. Lol
Most of the comments above make sense. Most guys think in terms of value. I certainly don't think like most guys, though. That said, most guys would probably rather stay home and beat their meet than see a 7/7 TER lady. That same guy might be willing to pay $1,200/hr to see a top tier, 10/10 porn star with an open menu, up to $600/hr for a 9/9 lady with an open menu, up to $450/hr for a lady that is at least an 8.5/8.5, up to $350 for a lady that is at least an 8/8 (in their eyes), and he may not even consider ladies below an 8. That is probably more or less how most guys think on some level. Basically it sounds like the guy was suggesting that you are somewhat attractive and fuckable, but not super hot (in his eyes). Also, some guys may not pay above x amount unless the lady offers CIM or some other desired service.
The same guy might be willing to pay $70K for a new BMW but only $25K for a new Mazda.
I agree that there is no point in contacting a lady if you don't want to pay her rate. Just move on and find another lady.
And I can't quantify the difference between a girl charging $500 and one charging $1000. They do the same things, and often, the $500 girl does them better. But for me, service is king. I have had some of the best sex of my life with GND types, pretty face and rocking body, and a lot of mediocre sex with DDG types, so there is no such thing as a provider being not hot ENOUGH for me, as long as she's not downright homely or fat, and our OP is neither. I guess what I'm trying to say is I would not necessarily pay more for a 10 in appearance. That would just be a bonus. I'm also suspicious of high-priced 10/10's because a lot of mongers inflate the service score in their review for DDG girls in order to justify the higher rate they paid.
Attempts to belittle a woman and lower her self worth. Guys that would do that are scum.
Pulling that kind of crap is the most evil kind of misogamy. Saying you are "not hot enough" in the hopes of preying on your insecurities to get a better rate is really just a code for "you, a mere female, should be grateful that I, an Alpha Male, will even consider allowing you to fuck me." It's his mistaken attempt at a power play and he deserves to get fucked for the rest of his life by the only person he thinks is worthy of his attention: himself.
A monger is either attracted to you at your stated rates or he isn't. Having said that, I can see where a monger could ask for an alternate price for some alternate level of service; either less activities, less time, or perhaps offering a some cost saving aspect like booking a room at his expense. As always, your decision to accept, refuse, or negotiate. But that's a client/provider discussion without the bullshit macho head games.
Here's an idea: Maybe refer the next a-hole who tries this to an experienced FemDom friend who specializes in crushing souls. Just don't tell him about her special skills.
Life is good
Th Cat
I know I'm broke.
The girls that I see know they are not hot enough to charge a lot.
So it all goes without saying.
Sometimes it's not about the attraction but the need.
Many of my clients aren't "rich," but save up for a while to see me. I know it's delayed gratification, but maybe consider putting aside a little $$ each week and saving up for your dream lady? (Assuming your dream lady charges more than you normally spend, which is the impression I gathered from your post).
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mmm, hmm
things to reconsider.
Let's see what others have to say. Many won't like to be "discover" that they are not rich but save their pennies to go spend it on the weekend. Whatever. 
I've had to save up for cosmetic surgery (and the downtime for when I couldn't work), took me several months almost a year, the waiting SUCKED but it was so worth it
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"Cosmetic Surgery", I hope you're NOT telling us you used to be a man. Lol
🤦wtf no
I should say no one has recently said this to me, it's more what I've seen happen to other ladies on Twitter (they usually screen shot rude texts from wannabe mongers) saying they aren't hot enough and should lower their prices and it just baffles me. Last time it happened to me was several months ago, the man said I have a small ass and only women with a booty should charge my rates (no we didn't meet in person) I just laughed 😆
I had a regular (Asian girl, believe it or not - lol) with a formerly flat rear that had butt implants. They improved her look quite a bit, but felt hard to the touch. They felt like the hard plastic thigh pads in a football uniform. For that reason, I didn't much like them. Now I'm content just to enjoy a flat butt.
"Visuals" are an important part of what we do, at least at the start. However, ...
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My #2 ATF worked the NYC KMPs. It is normal to change "houses" frequently but I would watch the on-line ads and follow her from house to house. I must have seen 40 times (more?) over 2+ years. She had a physical flaw (bad teeth) that might turn away some guys upon first "GLANCE" but not me and the rest was amazing. I felt so comfortable with her. It was as if she could read my mind. Technically, it was not GFE "service" but it was GFE, emphasis on EXPERIENCE, in other ways, every time. (She was going to get implants but she got braces and dental care instead and looked beautiful afterwards: she went from a 7/8 to a 10, in my eyes.) I do kind of miss her.
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On another occasion, I visited an indy hostess. As things moved along and other things moved "off" I noticed that there was a bit, well, a lot, of cellulite. My big brain is going, "Oh no! In the photos, everything was so smooth and inviting! Help! This is going to ruin everything!" but I persevered. And it was an incredibly enjoyable experience. It had no effect on the rest of the session which was great.
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Bottom line: we do start with the visuals, sometimes photoshopped visuals, but many times a physical "flaw" (and not all flaws are flaws - they are who we are!) is meaningless as far as the relationship, even a brief one, is concerned.
I should say no one has recently said this to me, it's more what I've seen happen to other ladies on Twitter (they usually screen shot rude texts from wannabe mongers) saying they aren't hot enough and should lower their prices and it just baffles me. Last time it happened to me was several months ago, the man said I have a small ass and only women with a booty should charge my rates (no we didn't meet in person) I just laughed 😆
Didn't even look at your considerations, but Daphne if you aren't "hot enough for your rates" you must charge a lot.
I looked at your website and your rates are no more than other providers I've seen.
I see where you're going to be in Nashville, my city, in September! That's great!
Awesome! I love Nashville 😍💖
Not once. The price is the price. If I can't afford it then I move on. If I don't find her attractive I move on. Having said that, of course we've all done some math in our heads, e.g. would an hour with that person really be worth $$$? There's nothing wrong with that. Just keep it in your head.
I know this, TER and the discussion boards in particular are far more fun and interesting when the ladies participate.
So mush better then having the various "Clicks" tell each other how stupid the other is.
On the OP subject, as a southern gentlemen it's just down right rude to tell a ladies she is not attractive enough for her rate.
Daphne,
If you look at P411, EROS, and other websites, your rate is in line with the asking price point for an independent provider.
If guys are comparing you to agency girls, you're a bit on the high end. Agency girls top out at around $400 in the Washington, DC area. Agency versus independent are two different business models. That is another discussion. And, that has nothing to do with you as a person. You have operating costs of hotel rooms, flights/transportation, living experiences, and on top of that have to make a living. You're not in business to lose money
You are not the only one having the issue of "tire kickers and time-wasters". You see on a lot of providers web sites of "rates are non-negotiable". Instead of getting into unproductive and harmful to your psychology discussions of price with these guys, just copy paste a positive pre-written note back of, "Hi, my rates are non-negotiable but would love to see you" (or maybe not depending on how rude the guys are about it or if they write back arguing --- then just delete the message, block them, and move on.)
Just know that some people and a lot of cultures will automatically haggle over the price - and try not to take it personally, its just who they are and what they do. I know they are prospective clients. Remember the 80/20 rule. They are the 20% of clients that cause you more work, headaches, and problems. You want to get to 80% of good clients if you can.
Best of luck.
I did not start in the hobby until I was 52 after a divorce. So I do not have as many years or ladies under my belt, as it were, as others. However, I might as well chime in.
Generally speaking, I will not book with anyone under $250 no matter how hot she maybe. Pricing is driven by the market and perceived value. Larger cities with higher living costs can drive prices up, compared to the Midwest, as an example.
Perceived value versus real value. I have had some lousy experiences above the $500 level, and some great experiences at $300. It just really depends, reviews help me make an informed decision. One never really knows until the date. INMHO, compared to strip clubs and brothels, most providers are a great value. It comes down to perspective. Like others, I never, ever, negotiate. It's embarrassing to both parties. If I do not have enough coin, I wait until I do. A wonderful experience depends on more than physical attraction.
Regarding you as in individual. I see no issues with your price point. You market yourself well.
You remind me of a lover I had a long time ago. But I digress. Any ass who tells you that you are not worth the money, is indeed an ass.
So that is my 2 cents.
And he took it out on you. He's going off his standards of what HE feels should be the going rate in your market, also based on your profile and he applied to you, only vocally of course. Now. all guys have felt like this guy at one time or another, we just keep it to ourselves, have a inner giggle and move on. I'm sure not very many on this board have reacted the way this guy did.
You're probably not the only one he's bitched to so just consider the source.
I'm not going to tell you how to market yourself in your city, or the it's the your body your rate. You know the game and what's best.
But like you, I'm sure many a lady have heard from "That guy"...So shrug it off and don't sweat it.
I agree with your post.
This is not an inexpensive hobby... and we all have women we are more attracted to than others... but...
Despite the high cost (even for “lower end”), guys need to adjust their thinking.
It’s heady stuff to pick through images of women to find one you will pay to fuck you. Especially when you are just starting out. It can start to give you a sense of entitlement. “Hey, I’ve had better for less.”
But damn... we’re dealing with human beings here. This is not comparing the cost for a steak at different restaurants.
A little self-examination is needed for any prick who goes out of his way to insult a woman like that.
Total dick move.
and "cost vs quality" most definitely comes into play.
Truth be told, I can't fault the guy for "thinking" what he did. I have those exact same thoughts every time I check out the photo board or read a review about an OTHFB who is getting $500+ hr. it only became a dick move when he basically called her ugly to her face. THAT is a dick move to come out and insult a woman about her looks regardless of whether or not it's actually true.
Exactly. Trying to get more value for your money buying a service is no objectification. It means you're being smart with your money and also not doing something you don't want to do.
Calling someone ugly to their face, and especially going out of their way to do so, is completely a dick move.
The only difference in person is if the guy himself is ugly. Then you can follow him out, turn around and say, "Hey! This guy keeps calling me ugly. Should I have sex with him?" See what happens lol.
We all make the assessment of what we think is worth the money. But unlike in these other situations where it’s completely fine to directly express our opinion about the perceived lack of value in pricing to the seller of goods or services... it’s a real dick move to say this to an escort when it relates to her looks.
That said... I have no problem saying here that probably more than half the women price at a point above where I find my value. The good thing is, I’ve already dipped into the “oh my - I MUST have her” pool a couple times, going over my budget or against my policy of not giving personal info, because I let myself go crazy with lust for a particular lady. Had those fun experienes, but don’t really feel tempted to do that anymore. Plenty of fun times with beautiful ladies within my budget and screening comfort-level are available (I use P411). Part of it also is that I don’t do 1 hour dates, as I wanted longer GFE experiences when I started this. If my thinking changes and I become contented with the quicker in-and-out dates... then I’d probably be willing to spend at a little higher hourly rate. We can certainly all change over time. I was an inexperienced guy 6 or so years ago when I started this... so I needed the fuller longer experiences. After doing this for a couple years, then stopping for a 3 year civvie relationship... then dipping back in for a couple P4P dates last year... my needs are certainly not the exact same as 6 years ago. I’m more comfortable in my own skin and wouldn’t be looking for approval from ladies in the same way. Because I don’t need validation like I first did... who knows? - maybe the quick $500 -$600 fucks with a hottie would be something I could find value in. Something for me to think about if I ramp my hobby activities back up again. Then again... I’ve used AMPs to fill my desire for quick fun in the past... so maybe I’d just stiick with those for my shorter play fun...
Yes, I got a little off topic here... but it’s a lazy Sunday afternoon and I had time to ramble a bit!
Why even contact a provider if you feel she is not attractive. Most smart men would just move on and don’t contact. Only jerk would say something to her. What she feels she worthy of comes down to many things not just looks.
I wouldn't do it.
But you have to realize that some providers and people in general are not who they think they are.
Some guys are more open mouthed and will say stuff without thinking it and thinking they are doing her a favor.
I don't care about looks anymore. But I won't overpay either. 
But they're not saying it as a "helpful friend" they're saying "you aren't hot enough for your pricesz but I'll still see you for less" it's a pathetic attempt to get a discount
That could be why.. They have to Pay for It!
Lol
It's just trolls. Whenever I got a slew of people doing it at one time, I knew ppl were ganging up on me, so I raised my rates $100 each time.
Once I got to a $1500 minimum, nobody bothered me anymore. They would also go off of scores and compare you to ladies with similar scores.
I like your response, though... "Why spend even a penny on someone you aren't attracted to?" I'm going to use that, lol.
I had a guy try to convince me in a video session I didn't like what I do... and I insisted I loved it... "No, I just think you're a good actress." I said, "Does it turn you on if a girl doesn't like doing this for you?"
"Good point."
Yeah.
And also, why would they insult you, saying, "If you lower your rates you can have my business." It's almost like they want a girl who would have a low self-esteem. And why is that? Sadly, predators seek out sex workers to abuse and harrass them because they are under the radar, so to speak.
Took me a while to catch on. And as I started doing the rate-raising thing, I realized the market I bumped into - money wasn't even a thought - those guys just got what they wanted and didn't even check the prices until it was time to pay lol.
Anyone who decides what I'm worth over what I say I'm worth simply isn't a good match or is playing games.
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...that means that they are afraid that they cant handle that pussy and dont want 2 be laughed at... or im cheap,my last date blew me in an alley....i never question donations...i always tip...imo...ALL WOMEN ARE HOT!!...IN THERE OWN WAY...i want to meet the ones i fit...
"want to meet the ones you FIT", are you talking about big pussies or small ones. Don't lie to us. Lol
Hi hon no, there be no lies.
Perhaps that's why they're so in demand?
"want to meet the ones you FIT", are you talking about big pussies or small ones. Don't lie to us. Lol
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It’s simply obnoxious men trying to “chew” the price down! Period. I don’t give a shit about what other justification they might try to give ...
If a girl is advertised outside of your price range we need to move on!! IF she isn't worth the advertised rate she won't get it.
Isn't this just like a fancy sports car or a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle??? People pay a crazy amount of $$ for rare bottles of whisky. It's not worth it to me.
Basic supply and demand? Some ladies charge $1K+ and they get it. If people pay it they will keep their rate there (as they should!)
My advice is to find the next up and coming hot lady. Shower her w/ gifts get in before she hikes her rates.
and NO, this is not like a fancy sports car or pricey bottle of booze. Ok, maybe it's like a pricey bottle of booze. lol A sports car is a tangible item with a residual value after you are done with it. A bottle of booze, unless of course you are a collector/investor with an eye for resale someday, is a consumable item. You pay a thousand bucks for it, sip on it for a while, enjoy the taste and are left simply with the memory, The same goes for hookers. lol
You are right about one thing though, the market will tell a woman if her rate is "fair" or at least fair in the eyes of her prospective clients. If her inbox is overflowing, she most likely can raise her rates. If her inbox is empty, perhaps she is priced to high, and then then there was the baby bear's bed, which was "just right" .lol
Then this isn't the business for you. It is self explanatory.
Seriously, thats what it is. It's not you, he is bargaining and honestly it works with some providers especially during....oh, 2020.
Fuck him, blow it off, he was attracted to you and probably texted 15 of us the same thing waiting for someone to bite.
Or he is a sub who wants free humiliation, but thats more rare. Just block his ass and move on!
Why do guys even bother taking the time to contact a provider and tell them what they should or shouldn't do? If she is out of your price range, simply find someone who is! Putting a provider down or trying to make them feel bad about themselves wont work and it wont get you in good with her!
I have only told one provider that her (new) price was too high for me to return to being a regular. And only because she reached out and asked why she hadn’t seen me.
But that was a long time ago. And I avoid situations where I might have to criticize someone I want to have sex with. In my experience, though I believe constructive criticism is healthy, it is best offered only when requested. And, generally, criticism and hot sex simply do not mix.
Yikes, gross
Its a term of endearment. If you read enough threads on this board, you will find some of the ladies who are long-time posters here use it as well. Its not meant in a derogatory way the majority of the time. Its just a description. Many guys don't like that term, "provder," because they associate it more with their medical quacks, so it comes with a negative meaning from other usage. We all love hookers and see it as a positive term.
Some of them are clearly meant to be offensive like "prostitute" or "whore", some of them are excessively effusive like "goddess" or "courtesan"
Hooker can be used to be derogatory, but most of the time it's meant in good spirits, many hookers use the term themselves and speaking as someone who has a LOT of "hooker buddies" I would never dream of calling them "providers" in casual conversation anymore than I would call myself a "hobbyist" a term I seriously dislike.
Besides "Happy Hooker" rolls off the tongue a LOT better than "Sex worker who is usually in a good mood"
I would suggest you reserve your outrage for the real posts and posters that are misogynistic in nature. I will concede there really are some misogynists on this board, but they generally are not the ones bantering in a friendly nature with the "Hookers" on these boards. So lighten up a bit Izzy, you'll enjoy yourself a lot more here that way, and if you see a REAL misogynistic post on this board and you call it out, you can bet I will be one of the first people here to have your back.
Personally, I think you are plenty hot. However, like it has been stated, guys have a monetary threshold when it comes to providers. I am totally guilty of the following thought process:
Me (after seeing a provider's photo): Wow!! She's hot!!
Me (after seeing the provider's rate): Whoa!!! But not that hot!!!
Physical & mental connection is needed in my old age lol Smile 4 me! I have female providers that want to do duos & if I am not attracted, then why waste anyone's time, or money? The trolling of males who post the crap of being to high prices with low looks is disgusting. I highly doubt they would be, so quick to judge anyone outside of this hobby lifestyle.
I am not interested in a quick date that is attracted to only my looks. I am an entire being that has more to offer, than what can be bought by the hour. ISO-quality connections. I am VIP here on TER.
I can read the reviews. When I read a mans review that low scores a provider based on looks it makes me not want to see them. I read a recent review that was so discourteous on a top rated provider that made me feel sad for her because it hurt her score & reputation. Her body is killer & she deserves better.
If you have a problem paying $400, $500, $600, or more, just stick to the ladies who are in your budget & please stop posting that a provider should charge less. Conversation that is enjoyed by 2 individuals can be arousing. Sex is not what I am selling it's more, than what some simpleton can even phantom.
Men are visual creatures and what we say in private about the looks of women is a thousand times harsher than anything you will read in a review. We are QUICKER to judge women who won't sleep with us for money than we are women we can actually have, how you don't know this is beyond me.
And if OTHFBs don't get low scores than how do we discern between the HOT women here and the ones that mother nature has not been so kind to? Life is NOT fair, not everyone gets a "participation trophy" and hot women, and "good looking" people in general are rewarded for their looks, even in the real world and especially on a hooker review board where we actually have a 1-10 scale for, guess what, APPEARANCE.
Sex might not be what YOU are selling, but it is what MOST of us are buying, and looks are a MAJOR portion of what most of us guys are paying for.
Women are actually harsher judgements of men's looks than men are of women's looks. Most women think 80% of men are unattractive. Most men think 50% of women are unattractive -- the normal bell curve.
There is no doubt you are entitled to see whom you want to. But I am struck by the comment about how men judge women here vs. in the real world. That of course is the fundamental reason men are here--this is not the real world. We are here living out a fantasy. I have no problem admitting that 51% of the women I've seen in this world are much better looking than women I've slept with ITRW, and many of them did stuff most civvies I've seen refused even to consider. So of course this different world has different rules. As long as we all know the rules, that's all we can ask.
Moreover, even ITRW we all make judgments based on looks. The fact that we go so far here as to post ratings and reviews based on looks is, again, a known and agreed upon ground rule of this universe. There are presumably alternate universes where that is not so. Further, we can agree that it's pointless and even counterproductive for someone to argue that a lady's rates should be lower, but isn't it easy enough to just categorize those people as idiots and never see them?
I fully appreciate that you're offering an experience beyond mere flesh and appearance. I suspect that > 50% of the male population here also appreciate that feeling of connection; but we're not going to call a lady unless first we have a physical attraction. It is what it is.
Not sure if I did this right.
