I will admit that I absolutely seek the opinions of providers I have already seen, know and respect about other providers I might see. And I am very confident that policy has saved me serious trouble at some point or another. It is, IMO, an extremely valuable way of screening.

But here is the thing. The fact I might consult somebody else -- a provider, hobbyist or even a review -- doesn't make the decision any less mine. It is MY money, MY body and MY risk. Therefore the ultimate responsibility for due diligence is mine and mine alone. That is the price of freedom: responsibility.

There is no provider on this planet who has the power to FORCE me to see ANY woman. Period. Therefore, my decisions cannot be blamed on any provider's feedback on another provider.

I will admit I am a bit hardcore on myself; but I see that as sensible and appropriate.

Therefore, I believe you should convey to the hobbyist that while you regret that he had a bad experience, your knowledge was limited and should have comprised only a small portion of HIS OWN responsibility for due diligence for a decision that was ultimately his and his alone. You should offer that you would be happy to take responsibility for his personal decisions just as soon as he signs over the paperwork declaring himself mentally incompetent, making you his full legal guardian, and naturally giving you control of all of his assets.

His claim of *your* responsibility is ridiculous! He is acting like a child in that he wants benefits with others shouldering responsibility for providing them.

you for screening her. Er...wait, he didn't pay for that, that was just a favor.

Well, tell him next time you will hold his hand and walk him into the room, make lots of funny jokes to break the ice with her, put the condom on for him, and hold her legs up while he fucks her. Then, if he's still not happy, you will take her place and do it properly, and pay him whatever her rate was for the priviledge of helping him out.

Or, my other idea - tell him to go submerge his head under water and take long deep breaths until he starts seeing strange bright lights.

he means, STD or LE you should at the very least say; "I so sorry". Try to do it when you not laughing. You might say you thought she would be OK but you didn't personally see the "Good Night Provider" stamp of approval on he ass.  

So just curious, when he's not on you case about your referals what else does he do for drama?

we have many on both sides of the envelope. folks who are so perfect that nothing they do can ever be their fault or responsibility. how tiresome. i'd say just disengage on the topic, aat least. you have too many decades of bad habits to deal with.

When new clients ask me to 'check out' someone they want to see, I tell them (in a nice way) to do their own homework and point them to the right direction (board & reviews).

I have few cherished clients I see over and over and (when they ask me) I do suggest other ladies. But I only do that because they trust my advices and will not make me liable if they have a bad experience.

Not sure how he contacted you to complain, but I think you should send him a detailed mail explaining your side of the coin with a CC to the lady in question, so she is aware of the truth and don't think you are the one creating problems.

After all is cleared with both (client and provider B), let them resolve their differences...you are not part of it at all in my opinion.

Kept yourself safe by making sure the provider is legit which you shouldn't have to do and took the time to give him the OK needed to see this new lady. It's not our job to find any man the best BBJ or anything else. The gentleman does his own choices

Move on and never give this man a reference again. Block both from any contact with you

Kisses Haley

If you have not already, you could send him an email saying "Sorry it did not work out well," before blocking any further email. No, you did nothing wrong, and no, you have no responsibility for whatever went badly between them. Your relationship with the hobbyist is pretty clear - P4P four months ago - and just because you did him a favor does not mean you end up owing him something when things go wrong. Just write him off and move on.

You said you also are blocking email from Provider B - anything on her version of the event? Within the provider world, if you give a reference for a hobbyist and the other provider has a bad experience, I am sure you would feel bad, but all you are doing it sharing what you know, right? It would not be like you owe her anything, or that you have to know if something changed with that person (or asshole, in the case of this client).

It is a pretty amusing little drama for those of us who are not directly involved, but I would feel bad if I were in your shoes, just because that is how I am. I also would know I did nothing, absolutely nothing, wrong and would sleep fine and get over it soon. Don't like bad things to happen to anyone, but it is a lot easier to take if they act like assholes afterward.

Zig

was check her web site for him.  Why the f*ck he needed you to do that, I have no clue.

You could tell him that if he had spent his time with you, the result would have been much better.

Last resort, block him!

Jeez, Lina, you shoulda just told him to come see you again!