Recently, I attracted the attentions of a stripper to provide for me - on the side.... yes you know the white envelop situation....  She claimed to never have done this before....  and I fell for her stories of woe... she offered to provide for $$$$... and as she is very pretty, and  has a great figure and .... welll.... you get the drift....

anyway, we've now met for 3 separate sessions... the first- hotel of my choice - and everything went extremely well... only funny thing was before the 2nd pop, she wanted extra... I said no- and took her home....

The second... her choice on hotel... we ordered in and this time more play.... same price....   but my camera was stolen... and as we never left the room (we ordered in) - well!  you can guess....  although she claimed to have had stuff lost as well.....

Finally we set up again at the same hotel (me figuring that I had just misplaced the camera... and thought that since during looking for it as the lass commented that she did not have a camera - I would buy her one to take pics of her kids....it was Mother's day the next day)  

We met again at the hotel she had suggested.... long story short... we had a bit to drink, some fun, and then we went out to eat.... upon return, I passed out!  Not something I am prone to do...  ever. I should add that during this session, she was insisting that we think about not being escort and hobbiest but boyfriend and girlfriend... and while there are some ladies in the hobby that would be a very welcomed request.... in this instance bells and red flags were sounding and waving in my head......!!!!!  yikes.  I woke up in the AM.... my credit card was missing... Camera was missing. SHE was missing....   As was ALL of my money - including the $$$$ for her troubles....

in short!  I am seeking opinions - what do you guys and gals think!??? I really want to know.  Oh, been trying to contact her all day!

Do you really think she will call you back?
You got played - BIG TIME.

You can do two things:
1) You learned your lesson and now walk away.
Next time, call a lady with reviews from here.

2) You can go back to the club, confront her and cause a scene and maybe get her fired. Then she will get mad and get back at you, and so on.

For me, I would just walk away not worth all the drama. I used to play around with strippers,but back then, dancers were a lot different then they are now. I used to enjoy trying to find those ladies but you really need to screen them for your protection.

this happened to you, sweetie.  Unfortunately, short of reporting your credit card as stolen (which I'm assuming you've done already), I think you have little recourse.  Take it as an expensive lesson as to what happens when you let the little head think.  Needless to say, I don't think you'll be hearing from her again.  It sounds like she's a done this kind of thing before....probably lots of times!

Oh that so pisses me off!  Im sorry as well, WTF makes people think they can treat others this way?

Unfortunately, what's done is done, shake yourself off, and move on :o(

xoxo~
L

The passing out when you go back sure sounds funny.
 That's a real bummer.  If it is too good to be true it probably is.  Even when the warning flags go off we WANT to believe.
 Sorry you had to go through this.  Does help me know I don't want to go there.
B

so that can't be it.

BSD, a player like you being taken for a sap, twice more?

I can't believe it.

After the first "upsell" session, it should have been "Later...".

Sorry to hear about your ordeal. After the first 2 sessions, I would not have trusted her her and let my guards down.

I'm kinda curious as to why you had a camera. Did she know this? From what I understand that type of activity is mostly off limits, unless of coarse she agrees to it prior. Second, WTF are you doing drinking so much to pass out? Don't you know that with heavy alcohol consumption junior isn't always up for the task at hand. On a serious note, forget the rookie club girls, go with the pro's and your chances of a repeat of this is about non-calcuable.

You should have known better.  After an upsell you went back.  After your camera was stolen, you went back.  

WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?!?!?

Walk away, suck it up and LEARN from your experience!

Remember: Think with the Big Head and The Little Head will get Fucked.  Think with the Little Head, and You Will Get Fucked!

If you wern't drinking too much you should see your doctor. If you had too much, maybe AA. It is effecting your life.

First Bizzaro, sorry that happened to you. It's one of the unfortunate risks in this hobby that both providers and hobbyists face...you sometimes never know the true character and motives of the other person until its too late.

As far as moving forward, let it go. Yes, I am sure you can prob. find her and confront her, but the risks far outweigh the rewards. At this point you have only suffered an economic loss...if you find, you are potentially risking a heck of lot more (i.e. identity theft, future physical harm). I know you are frustrated, but this provider/stripper is not worth another second of your time

Unless the sex was beyond anything you ever experienced, I prob. would have ended the relationship with this provider immediately  after the first meeting when she said that a second pop was extra. That was the indication that she was REALLY all about the business and that there would never be anything closely relating to a GFE experience.

Wow, I am so sorry.

I DON'T drink a lot on dates!  for this very reason!  Most I'll have in a bar is 2 beers!  Dude....  Passed out as in "blacked out" as in not sick - nauseous or anything else... not even tipsy... but "blacked out" - someone else asked if she was mixing the drinks... answer - yes she was.... What did I drink with dinner?  Ice tea.  Non-alcoholic....  get it!  I don't drink a lot cause it just is not that much fun for me.

sheese!   passed out - as in drugged - think Micky finn!  think Chloral hydrate...  - in fact, one of the two (count em 2) drinks that she mixed for me that night "tasted funny" and I did not drink all of it.... apparently I drank enough!

ALL are appreciated.  Now, let me give you the bright side....  (like there is one...)  While this gal is cute, she is certainly not as good as the last two providers I have had the pleasure of meeting!  NOT EVEN CLOSE!  Those are very quality ladies.... far above the norm...  very sweet and GIB!  the stripper?  Ok in bed - but nothing to brag about.  

As I posted above - one of the drinks that she gave me tasted "bitter" a sure sign and an alkaloid was added to the drink.... and as such I did not "drink up!"  which seemed to upset her (now I know why!  

I lost no more than I was going to pay her.... so I am lucky there.

When I called citibank master card.... I am enrolled in their program whereby they track my buying habbits... sure enough the card had been used (within 3 hr. of me noticing it gone....)  AND They cancelled the card IMMEDIATELY!  After a few quick questions - they informed me that at the next attempt to use the card, they will confiscate the card, and try to apprehend the perp.... out of my hands now!  

As always this board comes through, both the ladies and the gents.... and you are all correct... I should have know better - ces't la vie....  Hobby well - and hobby safe - both guys and gals.

They can administer a rape kit.  She might have had her way with you while you were out.  LOL

She offered BB!  I am NOT insane - however!  lol!!!

but the thought DID occur to me.... and what prey tell did she take pictures of with my camera! lol!!!!  If any of you see pics offering a big green dude as a male escort - rest assured - you cannot afford me!  ROFLMAO!

ANSWER:  A total waste of money and 2 things that will NEVER ever get any of my money.

Quality Providers are worth....whatever the hell you said.

Sorry it turned out badly for you, but would've thought you'd known better.

When she returns your call, I'd try to talk it through with her and straighten things out, let her talk, then you talk, etc., until you both feel like you've cleared the air.

she is a very dangerous person and you might want to to the cops, if you have more proof. The regular cops (not vice) will not hold the way you met against you.

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you are a very lucky man.
This could have turned out very differently.
The first time...overwhelming lust is understandable
The second time...well, red lights should have been flashing
The third time...what were you thinking!!!!!

I don't know you, personally, but I know you from the boards.
You have given me sage advice and support through some of the difficult times I've had lately.
I don't want to see you, or anyone, put  themselves in a potentially dangerous situation.

Use your head, watch your back, and be careful.

Just my opinion...
B

I would keep an eye on your accounts and take some steps against identity theft. You don't know what she slipped into your drink, but you know more than enough about pharma.

How glad I am that she didn't leave with your clothes too!

Nothing helps in the hobby more than keeping your sense of self-preservation. You had two warnings to abandon ship. Especially when she said some things of HERS were missing. You know you're not a thief. And how could one thief have stolen both of your belongings?

She might have sold the credit card to somebody else, someone who might be able to glean other information with it. So I would be on your toes. However, if she uses it, you've got her. Or rather, credit card security has her.

My ironclad rule: never have a session with a stripper. As much as I know there are many superb people in the sex industry, there are some psychopaths, grifters and/or some who have an unrelenting need for drug money. They get a free pass into the sex industry, too.

Don't worry. Karma will get her. She'll steal from one of her co-workers, and that will be it for her. She'll go down sometime.

But I do agree with the suggestion, just for all the things I listed above, you might want to go to the police. Forget about contacting her, you're not going to get anything back.


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Sorry for your troubles, BSD.

Maybe you will join me in a leave of absence?

Since anyone else who charges 4 hundred dollars an hour is governed by a professional board and held to a certain standard, maybe you should think twice before paying anyone that amount of money with no guarantees of service and no ethical standards.  Prices in this country are such a complete ripoff, and as long as guys are willing to put out 4 hundred dollars an hour (chumps!) to some woman they find on the internet, then they can expect to get burned over and over again.  When prices drop, fewer women will get into it just to pull off a lucrative scam.  Now I've noticed that Asians are bumping their rates to 3 hundred an hour for massage parlor service.  It's such a depressing joke being played on all hobbiests.

hee hee!  Actually, I prefer my wimin... more, as one lady I use to know would say, mature.  Someone who has a few life experiences... you know, traveled a bit, maybe had a couple of careers... I also kinda like my ladies to be smart.... you know with some kollege ejukasion....  

lol!  I am alive... Would I trade the experience for say a nice evening sippin wine in a Greek Bistro?  learning the fine art of belly dancing?  you bet.  but alas... Philly seems to not have few classy dames (and that is said with the utmost respect to those who understand the Bogart-Bacall relationship) who appeal to me.... they all seem to reside in Phoenix!  alas... our loss.

Not to say that Philly does not have pretty classy ladies... (there are plenty here, SJ, Macy, Julianna, Tara, Karina, and many many others) it is just that I tend to like ones who live elsewhere...

We took pictures on one of our romps!  2) - I actually know my alcohol limits... I had two - count em... two drinks... over dinner - I had Ice Tea NOT long Island ice tea... this is what makes me suspect that I was drugged.... but hey, could be?

dude...?  what does that prove?  lol!!!  

Worse could have happened... but didn't!  I'm actually OK... a little wiser... but ok.

as far as the credit card went... the credit company noticed a change in my spending profile - and cancelled the card.... and was to apprenhend the card user on the next purchase....  gotta say, I complain about the interest rates.. but pay them gladly when you realize what this could have cost me!

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have no set pattern that I can discern except if I hit it off with the lady - and would find her attractive - no matter under what circumstances I met her.... and there are a few, that I've met here - CLOSER TO MY AGE - that I find truly attractive...

but since you are discussing prices...  can we gripe about the tax on Gasoline... the toll taxes on roads since we already pay taxes on gas that are supposed to go for highway maintenance and construction and the general state of poor public transportation?  we are truly one of the few "civilized" countries where public transit in and between large cities is a joke.

The only time I'll dogfight then is when somebody insults one of the providers here. I'm still a white knight.

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The larger and more important point is that there is no barrier of entry for any woman to get into providing.  Whereas, in any other 4 hundred dollar an hour business, you must - through study and examination - prove competency and adhere to standards. The only thing required for a provider to make the same money is to put up a picture on the internet and set her rates.  And then guys blithely go around throwing 4 hundred at her and then complaining that they didn't click with her, she didn't look like they expected, she didn't do this or that.  I'm not sure how the market got turned on it's head so that the providers are setting the prices.  If guys would stop calling these 3 and four hundred dollar an hour women for a week of two, their rates would fall as fast as a stone.  But, asking a guys penis to make a rationale choice is going a bit too far.

I'm not asking you to only defend women. I'm just replying to your post about dogfighting. I think the responses are very clear and helpful to Bizzaro. He did -- in fact -- ask for advice, so please don't call "opinions" a dogfight.

However, if you'd like to have one with me, I'll prop my cute little A _ _ up for you to scratch. Tee-he!  I know, I'm baaaaaaaad.

Hugs,
ciara

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nurse him back to health....   She purrrty too!  Bizzaro bad... need spanking!

currently engaged in on the P&R page.... with respect to chlorine.... and skin absorption!  

Wow, here I am defending Z!  lol!! what's next the return of Mr. Spock????

That's a delicious imagination you have, sweetie. It scratches me delectably 1500 miles away!

What a dirty way to pull me toward Arizona! You're just toooo sweet!

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It took me 15 minutes before I could post again.  And I was still dyslexic.

Okay, Bizzaro and I got into a very heated argument over a point of science.

The tension has been well reduced now, I agree with him on every point.  Including checking sources.  It was a spillover from the Politics and Religion board.

There you are, Bizzaro-- you were right, I was wrong on every point. In the immediate future I'll use IMO and IMHO more. I promise a lot more changes in my approach to posting otherwise, but that will take some time.


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I am sorry that happend to you..but sorry to say..she totally suckered you.  You should have not set up that 3rd date after the 2nd one and your camera went missing...but you kept TELLING yourself you misplaced it.  I would have known better my sweetie, once things went missing...sorry.

 Keep contacting her..if you are bored...you arent going to hear back from her...and maybe she did it becuase she has kids and she is desperate..who knows?  Certainly no excuse to rob you while you are passed out!  She didnt slip you a roofy did she?

 Live and learn my pal..and next time I would stick with the reputable ladies of these boards...not a stripper that CLAIMS its her 1st time doing on the side stuff...she was scamming you from the getgo.

 I also think since she took more this time from you ..because you basically let the camera incident slide..you made it easy for her..and she probally thought you were an idiot after you booked with her the 3rd time!  Obviously she thinks you are an idiot, or she wouldnt of scammed you like that. Come on honey, you are smarter then that!

  Sorry it happend to you sweetie!

 Sincerely, Sidney Starr

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and while her pleas of "oh please lets be boyfriend and girlfriend" went unrewarded - the little head was saying big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs.. big boobs..!!

So you see, he won.  and sadly I did not!

If P.T. Barnum was correct, then you account for one of the minutes.  I'm sorry about your loss, but have to shake my head at your being such a naive and willing victim.

I don't know why I forgot the word "flame-war" but I thought dogfight was in vernacular too.