I'm dumping part II:
For every provider who never returned my calls
For every provider who never returned my emails
For every provider who returned my emails weeks later
For every provider who never said thanks for any gifts
For every provider who treated me differently than her reviews suggested
For every provider who turned me down based on my contact email
For every provider who charged me over $400/hr and never let me touch her
For every provider who has inaccurate information or false pictures in their ads
For every provider who treated me as something less than human
For every provider who has been afraid to ask me basic questions like how are you or to try and get to know me as a person just a little bit
I knew we could expect precisely this sort of post from one of the fellows. But you omitted to specify, as Sugarbaby had (with the repeat function of two keys appropriately struck with the middle fingers), just what it was that was "for" all of these people on your fecal roster.
You too are laying yourself open for certain, shall we say, alternative views on some of your beefs.
>For every provider who treated me differently than her reviews suggested
Of course she cannot control what reviewers say, or correct misleading assessments, except perhaps on grossly literal matters; and the YMMV rule springs insistently to mind, together with some obvious variables in "Y" that so often cause "M" to "V" towards the worse.
>For every provider who turned me down based on my contact email
Well, for all I know of your style in contact e-mails, I might be more inclined to think less of any provider who did NOT turn you down on that basis.
Mind you, I think Sugarbaby was dumping her dump on some undeserving targets, too. For one thing, I did nothing regarding her birthday, and will not be seen in public with her, for the simple reason that I have never had the slightest contact with her that I know of and do not know even what city she is based in. And dumping on every teacher in America and the world who has failed to budget $250 for an incall with her seems a bit indiscriminate too!
Perhaps you should read the entire previous thread and then check out the Los Angeles Discussion Board for the current thread started by Heather Barron who is sugarbaby. If you really want to understand then do a search of her previous posts on both the Los Angeles and National Discussion Boards for the last two years. Some of us have been around long enough to remember the lady and her antics.
Again, you're in control of YOURSELF, you need to concern yourself with being the BEST YOU can be.
Let's use this as an example. Two positions: bottom level entry position (let's use Mail Room Clerk); and top level position, CEO.
We are all the CEO's of our own mind and character. But does our behaviour and thinking reflect that of a CEO, or of a mail room clerk? Do you take the 'low road' thinking or the 'high road'?
I'm dumping part II:
For every provider who never returned my calls OFTEN, THERE'S AN EXPLANATION. WHAT WERE YOUR CALLS LIKE? 'HI, DO YOU DO ANAL?'
IF YOU WERE A WOMAN, WOULD YOUR VOICE MAIL ENTICE YOU TO WANT TO RETURN YOUR CALL?
BUT, THEN, SOME PROVIDERS ARE BAD, ARE FLAKEY...DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
For every provider who never returned my emails WHAT DID YOUR EMAILS SAY? "HI, YOU BUSY TONIGHT?" "WHAT ARE YOUR RATES?" "DO YOU DO ANAL?" REFER TO DIMNDJIM'S HOBBY RULES POST.
BUT, THEN, SOME PROVIDERS ARE BAD, ARE FLAKEY...DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
For every provider who returned my emails weeks later OFTEN THERE'S AN EXPLANATION: OUT OF TOWN, FINALS, VACATION, SICK, COMPUTER DOWN.
BUT, THEN, SOME PROVIDERS ARE BAD, ARE FLAKEY...DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
For every provider who never said thanks for any gifts I'LL BET YOU CAN THINK OF A FAMILY MEMBER, FRIEND OR CO-WORKER WHO DIDN'T EITHER. PROVIDERS ARE PEOPLE. IT'S ONLY AS GOOD AS THE WEAKEST LINK - ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PERSON. WHY BE SURPRISED?
BUT, THEN, SOME PROVIDERS ARE BAD...DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
For every provider who treated me differently than her reviews suggested
DID YOU GIVE HER ANY REASON TO? DID SHE SENSE A NEGATIVE, OR OTHERWISE UNDESIRABLE ATTITUDE FROM YOU? IT IS A YMMV INDUSTRY. YOU KNOW THAT.
BUT, THEN, SOME PROVIDERS ARE BAD...DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
For every provider who turned me down based on my contact email
WELL, THIS ONE SHOULD BE SELF-EXPLANATORY. WHAT DID IT SAY?
For every provider who charged me over $400/hr and never let me touch her
SOME PROVIDERS ARE BAD...DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
For every provider who has inaccurate information or false pictures in their ads
BUT, THEN, SOME PROVIDERS ARE BAD...DO YOUR HOMEWORK
For every provider who treated me as something less than human
AND THAT'S A SHAME. BUT, IT TAKES TWO. HOW DID YOU MAKE HER FEEL? WHAT PART IN THAT COULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY?
IT TAKES A WHILE TO FIND SOMEONE THAT YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, AND THAT TAKES TIME AND RESEARCH. AGAIN, WORKING ON BEING THE BEST YOU CAN BE, WILL MAKE DRAMATIC DIFFERENCES IN HOW OTHERS ARE WITH YOU.
For every provider who has been afraid to ask me basic questions like how are you or to try and get to know me as a person just a little bit
SAME AS ABOVE. UNFORTUNATELY, WE AREN'T PERFECT, NOR ARE WE MIRACLE WORKERS. BUT, WE DO TRY.
I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN FINDING THAT SPECIAL PERSON YOU FEEL HAPPIEST AND MOST COMFORTABLE WITH.
SOMETIMES, THOUGH, WE FIND THAT MUCH HAD TO DO WITH OURSELVES AND THAT'S WHERE TO START.
Dear Sedonia- thanks for your post. However, I must say that the things I wrote about have happened to me-more than once. I do not think (actually I know) that I was not as crass as you suggest. Further, the ladies who did these things are some very highly rated providers- so they are not flakey. Grant it YMMV certainly applies and perhaps I'm not the best looking guy around or possess a great personality, but I believe I'm nice and treat all people with great respect. Really the reason I posted what I did was to show that there are two sides to every story. Bear in mind though, that I appreciate the opportunity providers have given me to experience some things I would have missed. But I'm human and think I (and all clients) should be treated with dignity as well.
going on these boards forever! If you want to post your thoughts and feelings, we just have to learn to do it in a more positive, and not 'damning' way.
Maybe post it as a question, or as I 'I need advice' type of post.
Sorry it was so "damning." But I didn't post it as a question because I had no question to ask. I didn't ask for advice because I know how I have been treated and the circumstances surrounding each occurrence. I know that all providers are not this way- just some. Perhaps as one person suggested it is because I'm ugly, but although no great looker I don't think I need a bag. But hey you never know.
It's really a reciprocal thing, y'know?
I've heard some guys think since they paid for some time they're entitled to treat her like a dog. (sniff, sniff, boink, boink)
Treat her like a lady (at least until she gets wound up enough to demand a spankin') and nine times out of ten it will be returned.
Helps to remind me how incredible this last year was for me!
Oh sure, there were some mishaps along the way, a few no-shows and a couple of things I wish I'd done differently. But when I look back on it, all I can say is "Thanks, ladies."
"For every provider who charged me over $400/hr and never let me touch her"
Yeah, I hate that. Are you sure it was a provider and not a strip club? It happens, but mostly in very big cities, I think. It's happened to me twice in NYC, but the girls seem MUCH less squeamish out of town (Lower standards?).
Are you. . . how shall I put this?. . . really fuc*ing ugly? How many inches are you packing? Do you have heinous body odor, or bad breath? Perhaps you were not misled. It is possible that the ladies are reacting to you as an individual, and the reviewers may have been nicer to look at. Hey, we're all adults here so no offense, okay?