You answered your question..........move on................if I am not sure of someone they have to provide their work switchboard number so I can ask to be put through to them by name.
I'm still new to this hobby, so what I consider strange, others may consider to be the norm.
Yesterday I saw a provider mentioned in one of the forums here, and went to check out her reviews, and her website. To get into her website, though, you need a password. To get the password, you have to email her your ID from one of the big three screening outfits (DateCheck, P411, RS2K).
I belong to one of those, and so emailed my ID. I received an email back from her saying that I didn't have any provider references on the screening outfit site, and she requires at least three provider references before giving out a password.
This means that, in order for me to just see photos of her, I'd have to see three different providers, all of whom work with the same screening outfit that I do. That means that I'd have to probably see at least one or maybe even three providers I'm not particularly interested in seeing, just to see the photos of this provider on her website.
Will I go to all that trouble? No. I just won't bother.
Am I wrong in thinking that's a strange business practice? Or is she so low-volume that she can afford to turn away what is maybe a majority of potential clients?
It must work fine for them. It offers more privacy and they can be more selective in whom they choose to entertain .
They may have operated in another capacity prior and found that this works best for them at this time.
Everyone has their comfort level in how they choose up operate. All you can do is respect it and move on .
There's plenty of options .
Have fun on the playground. 
Thanks, april_luv. I've looked at several thousand provider websites, maybe more, seeking out ones that I'm attracted to, and this is the first time I've encountered this situation.
protecting self from being outed etc. So I understand that some want to protect themselves. Do I think that it is annoying for the guys and keeps many from contacting her? Yes. Do I think it is too much? Yes, but that is just me.
I would assume that it works well for her otherwise she wouldn't continue doing it. In the end, it is what is comfortable for her.... and what is comfortable for you.
I personally think it creates more work for her but if she is happy with it, then good for her.
Not everyone advertises and not everyone is looking to meet a lot of new guys. Some of us have too many regulars and prefer to stick with that and occasionally see new ones.
Yesterday I saw a provider mentioned in one of the forums here, and went to check out her reviews, and her website. To get into her website, though, you need a password. To get the password, you have to email her your ID from one of the big three screening outfits (DateCheck, P411, RS2K).
I belong to one of those, and so emailed my ID. I received an email back from her saying that I didn't have any provider references on the screening outfit site, and she requires at least three provider references before giving out a password.
This means that, in order for me to just see photos of her, I'd have to see three different providers, all of whom work with the same screening outfit that I do. That means that I'd have to probably see at least one or maybe even three providers I'm not particularly interested in seeing, just to see the photos of this provider on her website.
Will I go to all that trouble? No. I just won't bother.
Am I wrong in thinking that's a strange business practice? Or is she so low-volume that she can afford to turn away what is maybe a majority of potential clients?
funny when someone puts together a website advertising their "product" and then restricts people from seeing it.
That's a good business to be in!!!!
Oh I agree. If you want to push business, then at least give guys an idea of what they are dealing with. However sometimes us gals leave up certain things (such as P411 profile) purely for the regulars to contact us. You ask why I say that? Many guys are not so suave on how they hobby and use their own phones. So they can't save the contacts.
Thing is when us gals get the inquiry to see non blurred face pictures.... why the heck would we do that? Let's say a guy never books with us (so we have no info on them) and then outs us? I give the bare minimum as to protect myself but still give the guy enough to decide (without jumping through hoops).
Maybe it's because I spent some time in sales. I guess if you don't need any new customers it's fine to be selective. It also might be that I do a lot of research before contacting a new lady and if I can't get at least a little information, I tend to just move on.
One local gal has her photos password protected, I was on the fence as to see her. She sent me the access to her pics and I looked at them a couple of times, becoming more interested, then BOOM she "pulled the plug" and cancelled my ability to look at them. I am talking a few days. Not a big deal, but I didn't contact her.
"I looked at them a couple of times?" Really? Then you tried to look at them again, but never booked? Well duh! When I give a guy access, it expires in 24 hours. Again, some prove the point about why we do this. If all you're going to do is surf her site and stalk her photos, she probably got pissed off and does not want to meet you. Not saying that is what you did, or how she felt, but in general. We can check our stats to see who is looking at our sites. I had a guy look at my photos 23 times, and never book. No thanks.
You are in a position where you can do that and that's just fine.
I like to take a little more time in making my decisions. I was considering contacting her, but decided not to when she blocked access. Please explain why it bothers providers if someone looks at their photos more than once when considering contact?
When looking at your photos, I asked to see them out of curiosity knowing we probably won't ever meet, so no reason to go back and look at them a second time (although I think you are quite attractive).
Honestly, you gals get upset if people go back and look at your photos several times? It could be worse, people could look once and never want to see them again
I would not use the word "upset" but I can't speak for the woman in question. Annoyed would be the word I would use. Imagine if providers charged a fee just to see any photos..would you pay it? doubt it, so there is your answer. Guys who do nothing but look at photos over and over and never book, are not who some women want to see. I mean, I don't much care either way, but I have legit reasons for doing what I did with my site.
That is an incredibly difficult process. But every girl has to do what makes HER feel comfortable. Look at the risks we take as providers. We don't know you FROM A CAN OF PAINT when you contact us. You could be a cop, the craigslist killer, a crazy, anything! So I can understand her need for discretion, she could be a professional - not everyone does this full time. She could have kids. She could be going through a divorce. Etc. There are so many variables that go into make the decision on how you screen clients, and every girl has their way. I personally attempt to make it simple for the hobbyist, while still feeling comfortable with who I am meeting. There is a point on both ends of the spectrum. I understand the hobbyists hesitation to share it, since he doesn't know ME from a can of paint, but in a way the hobbyiest has the upper hand. You are stronger than us most of the time, you have us alone. You have the power to walk in and decide you change your mind. You could very damn well be a cop.
You have to consider all things. And there are SO MANY girls on the boards, if you don't like a particular girls' process move on. But I think what is happening here, is her level of picky-ness makes her unavailable which makes you EVEN MORE interested. You have to work to see her pictures, so now you want to see them! Am I right? This very well could have something to do with her process, too. Who knows? I know I definitely subscribe to "everyone wants what they can't have" and "men love a chase" and with hobbiest/provider there is very little chase. So she has made it more of a chase, and that probably makes the guys who notice her want her MORE. She sounds like a smart cookie. Why don't you say who she is? I want to look at her site! Unless your talking about London, which she probably does it for all the said reasons, because she is one of the IMO smartest girls on this board. And I know her site is password protected, and she is probably going to be responding to this thread any minute.........
LMAO!!! I remember giving YOU the password early on ha ha ha. Shhhhhhh.
Fact is, a website is just fluff and not even necessary. I know hundreds of women who have never used a website, and make bank in this business, as well as being top rated. There is no law that says a provider must have a website, especially with many great reviews, but if she does have one, she is free to limit who sees it.
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I would think the best way to meet guys is through referrals right? I get PMs all the time from guys saying check out this women "I saw her last week and she is amazing" Does that make sense?
I always give my clients a bonus (extra time or money off) when they refer one of their associates. I much prefer a discreet network to mass advertising. I know the guy's information from jump, and it takes a lot of pressure off regarding provider references, which IMO are not always reliable. There are very few women I would trust with my body and my life, and many have zero standards when it comes to who they see.
They do not want to see just any gent who can fill out their screening form.
So,they password protect their website and a gent has to be verified just to get access to their website.
I know a few ladies who do this but they were getting ready to retire and wanted to be selective on who they saw.Not saying the provider's website you were trying to access is possibly retiring but obviously she wants to restrict people who have access to her site.It could be different reasons it might be for safety or just that the provider wants to have more control over who has access to her website.
Obviously,the providers who do this don't mind that some guys will not go through the all of that for access they want to see the guys who don't mind being verified so yes they can afford to do this.
If you don't feel comfortable don't do it there are many providers whose websites are accessible
It makes screening much easier.
I find it hard to believe you would not want to see three different providers on the boards you mentioned but, I like that she is cautious.
escalade1964, I'm not as well-heeled as most of the guys on this forum. I don't see the really expensive providers ($600 to $1500 an hour), but the ones I see are $400/hr, which is the high end for the city I frequent.
With travel, a three-hour booking costs me $1500, so I see a provider once a month. I signed up with P411 because they made it easy. I tried Date-Check, and their system put me into an infuriating closed-loop repeat email question, so I gave up on them.
Given my limited resources, I look closely at providers to try to get a good match. There aren't many on P411 that I'd want to see, just based upon the information and photos presented. Actually, I don't think I saw any, except for the one I saw here in TER reviews who required P411 for booking (and who has a website with photos that aren't password-protected).
So, again, why would I book with three ladies who I'm probably not really hot to see, just so I can see the photos of one?
If this business model works for her, that's great. It doesn't work for me, so I won't be considering her. I lose nothing and she loses nothing.
This whole business is really fascinating to me.
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If you really want to book, she has just told you that you don't meet her screening requirements. There are many who will see you without 3 references, but this lady apparently will not and she doesn't see the need to open her site to those who don't meet her requirements for a date. That is really the bottom line. She is probably telling you that she is not interested in seeing you without 3 references, so there is no point in "looking" at her site. There could be many reasons for this approach. She could be having an issue with a stalker, or could have been outed previously, or could just be very low profile. She could have a comfortable level of business with regulars and not really need to take on many new clients. While it is not the norm, it doesn't really matter whether it makes sense to you, or me, or anyone else. It is what it is.
If she has an account on the verification sites you mentioned, does she not have a photo posted on the site? Most do. Wouldn't that be enough to determine if your are willing to pursue further? If you are insistent, and have 3 references, but maybe just not on the same verification site, you could mention that to her to see if it makes a difference. If you don't yet have the references she requires, it makes no difference whether you see her site or not right? Just my .02
Yup, thank you! If a guy can't pass screening, why would she waste time sending out passwords to guys she is never going to see? That's all it is...wasted time.
I recall an idiot from Florida asking me for a password acting like he wanted to book...looked at his reviews and out of 80, he has never paid more than 250, only booked half hours and hours, and his 'average' pay was 125. Yea dude, now all of a sudden you're going to cough up a grand because I am just that special? Right. Mext...
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If she has an account on the verification sites you mentioned, does she not have a photo posted on the site? Most do.
I've seen a few providers now, and one I've seen several times, but none of them subscribe to any of the screening services, so I still don't meet the requirements.
Please understand that I'm not driven to see her. I saw her name mentioned, looked at her TER profile, wanted to take a look, and was surprised that she required a password, screening service ID, and three referral just to see her site. It just struck me as odd, and I started a thread about it.
Her screening is what it is. If it's to much for you move on. If you want to jump thru all the hoops have at it.
Yesterday I saw a provider mentioned in one of the forums here, and went to check out her reviews, and her website. To get into her website, though, you need a password. To get the password, you have to email her your ID from one of the big three screening outfits (DateCheck, P411, RS2K).
I belong to one of those, and so emailed my ID. I received an email back from her saying that I didn't have any provider references on the screening outfit site, and she requires at least three provider references before giving out a password.
This means that, in order for me to just see photos of her, I'd have to see three different providers, all of whom work with the same screening outfit that I do. That means that I'd have to probably see at least one or maybe even three providers I'm not particularly interested in seeing, just to see the photos of this provider on her website.
Will I go to all that trouble? No. I just won't bother.
Am I wrong in thinking that's a strange business practice? Or is she so low-volume that she can afford to turn away what is maybe a majority of potential clients?
Or, you can give me your full name and employment lol. Which would most prefer? Sorry, but I have too much to lose to broadcast to the masses. There is nothing on my site (information wise) that one can't find on both TER and P411. Oh wait, except for MORE revealing photos which I don't feel are necessary. If a guy can't tell what I look like from the half naked photos posted, he is just wanting jack off material, so I hope he does "not bother" with me lol. I am not going to spend countless hours giving out a password to guys who are full of shit and know damn well they are never going to book with me. I do not tour, so unless a guy is paying to fly me to his city or lives in my area, he has no business on my website. It's not for window shoppers in the first place.
If you want easy access, just look around. Not all of us have the luxury of being so open about what we do anymore. My career and family will always take precedence over the hobby. Guys who see such ladies, understand and respect that.
You asked "Is she so low volume she can afford to turn away a high majority of potential clients," and my answer is "YES!" My guess...she either has a sugar daddy taking care of her, or a full time job, and had no need for mass suitors. We are not stupid, so don't think we have not realized how much we limit the amount of business that comes through...that's the idea in the first place.
Don't get me wrong...I am not saying you or any other guy should have to submit to such practices, but understand it's not a personal thing. She is probably trying to be cautious and discreet...a word that is so overused followed by varying contradictions, it proves meaningless. There are certain things that will never be viewed as discreet, though I don't think a visible website with blurred face shots is indiscreet, but many other things are.
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I'm self-employed, London. How about my Visa card number, social security number and mother's maiden name? 
I've seen the three photos of yours on P411. That's all I need.
Wow... she obviously is limiting herself to only men who see ALOT of women.
Me... If I was a man I wouldn't jump thru a massive amount of hoops to see a photo.
I also would prefer not to see men who advertise all/any of the women they see.
I don't find any comfort in knowing they saw 20 girls last month.
Would just want to double bag them.. or not see them at all.
and I also rather have repeat business which is more likely with a man who isn't constantly spreading himself around trying new girls. Just preferred personality type for me. A man who is a little more discerning and looking for more of a friendship with his chosen few.
I see maybe 3-4 men a month w/ mostly men I've seen before. Often many times before since I've been in biz so many years.. really. .so this is more like regular dating for me.
But,hey, to each his own. If that method works for her.. so be it. I'm happy for her.
On the 'odd' scale. I rank it very high.
solid references, not 300. That's the norm with many providers...2-4.
London Rayne, three wouldn't be a problem if it was simply a matter of her contacting three providers. In this case, it's three providers who all use the same screening company. That narrows the field a lot, at least for me.
Again, whatever she does is fine by me. I just didn't know if this was common or not.
You answered your question..........move on................if I am not sure of someone they have to provide their work switchboard number so I can ask to be put through to them by name.
In the secret hidden site ? A photo , alternate # ? A blog ? I'm sure whomever it is has photos out there along with rates and reviews . So really what more do you need ? But she sure got you interested ! Book and see how it goes , after you'll get a password and come back and tell me I'm correct !
Yesterday I saw a provider mentioned in one of the forums here, and went to check out her reviews, and her website. To get into her website, though, you need a password. To get the password, you have to email her your ID from one of the big three screening outfits (DateCheck, P411, RS2K).
I belong to one of those, and so emailed my ID. I received an email back from her saying that I didn't have any provider references on the screening outfit site, and she requires at least three provider references before giving out a password.
This means that, in order for me to just see photos of her, I'd have to see three different providers, all of whom work with the same screening outfit that I do. That means that I'd have to probably see at least one or maybe even three providers I'm not particularly interested in seeing, just to see the photos of this provider on her website.
Will I go to all that trouble? No. I just won't bother.
Am I wrong in thinking that's a strange business practice? Or is she so low-volume that she can afford to turn away what is maybe a majority of potential clients?
She didn't get me "interested". She got me motivated to start a thread about no-access websites.
One good reason is photos posted there really can't be stolen , it keeps guys interested and she may give them a weekly treat new photos or whatever ? I know some that have them . Some guys like having what others don't . Its really that simple.
Me , I don't give a shit , if I click I click if not move on . If your new you should be finding who you click with more than anything else . Good luck .
Simple : packages , and OTC when and if you find the right lady ! And in time you will. One of the hottest west coast providers , makes me breakfast at her house and we do weekends and exercise together among other things . Its great , and big p ! My story was true , Ive dated a lot of dancers ! Kinda lucky with that in more ways than 1 !!!!
Just have fun !
I have. Unfortunately, as soon as I leave I want to go back.
or move on.
A lady's safety should come first and her screening methods should not be compromised.
Im a Personal Assistant, Screener , Scheduler for other ladies and i was doing that well before I became a provider.. I have a laundry list of verification checkpoints that I will put your information through..
Because my SAFETY and SECURITY as well as the ladies I work with are my number 1 priority..
I know quite a few quality providers that password protect their stuff because they are tired of time wasters and window shoppers, and pic collectors just looking to jerk off to photos and are booking serious inquiries only..
And as ive mentioned in previous threads when it comes to violence, rape and abuse the LE and Judicial system take a very weak stance with sex workers.. so ladies will go to whatever lengths they need to to protect themselves and feel safe
To assume she isnt making money just because of the measures she takes is silly..
Ive worked with similar providers and its not hurting their business, there isnt a lack of clients who will jump through the hoops
~Cat
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