If you were satisfied with the experience..........consider what you paid was for her "services," NOT her time. Sounds like all that you received was worth significantly more than you paid.
Some hobbyists on here (NOT me) would have paid 400 for what you received. Even in Las Vegas there are many providers who will provide a "rub and tug" for 100.........but many would only give you a damp cloth to clean up. Consider yourself ahead...........also consider what providers go through just to get and then go through with an appointment. They deserve all the respect in the world and all the consideration we can give them. Hope this helps.i had rather magical experience with a provider. I was enjoying small talk. She asked if I wanted a shower. Of course I did. I hopped in and out of the shower got dressed. There was still 15-20min left in the session. She walked me to the door. And away I went. Had a wonderful time will repeat, but should I have handled situation differently? Should a bring it up next visit? I would have liked to lay around naked chatting for another 10-15min. when I calculate I'm paying $100/hh that's $50 worth of time I left on the table.
Don't want to sound petty just trying to figure out the proper etiquette.
Most of the ads and everything else says that you are paying for her TIME and anything else that happens is coincidental and between consenting adults. Given that ...
In most cases, you are paying for time and should expect to get the full 30, 60 or other minutes. You can ask or otherwise hint about relaxing or cuddling for the remainder (or remainder minus 5 minutes to get dressed) of the time. However, use your Spidey sense and don't try to force the issue. If you piss her off, you'll be cuddling a cold fish or, worse, a live barracuda.
Some reviews will make it clear if some one is "one and done" which means that when you're finished, you're finished. That occurs mostly at the low end of the scale. Read the reviews so you know what to expect. Perhaps make it clear up front when you arrive that you are looking to relax or cuddle afterwards and see what she says ("Sorry bub, I don't do that.").
If "time" is good for her, "time" is good for you
I agree. Imposter brings up a very good point. Some providers do indeed imply the "one and done polic." It may not be an agreed upon policy but it's there. The couple of times things ended a bit early for me I have taken my time getting dressed or chatted a little . No one has told he to hurry up or try to push me out yet
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With that description, I doubt she'll give you 15 min of credit on a return visit.
I always give a full hour for a one hour service. I charge a lot more than $100 for hh though so maybe that is the difference.
Reading your post it sounds like you had sex, had small talk, showered and dressed in 10 minutes? You said you had "15-20 minutes left." Sounds to me that if you can do all that so quickly you may as well book shorter sessions!
Since you asked should you have handled it differently, here are a few things you could have done instead of jumping in the shower and getting dressed so quickly. Bear in mind that most ladies that offer hh or qh sessions do not offer MSOG, but you could have asked. When she asked if you wanted a shower, you could have said:
1) I still have 15 minutes left, can we go again? (that would probably be a no answer but what do you have to lose)
2) Will you shower with me? We can wash each other. (shower play is always fun, but some providers would go for it and some won't)
3) Not ready for a shower yet. Can we just lay here and cuddle for a while?
4) How about a massage or backrub?
Technically if you paid for half hour you should get half hour, but many ladies who offer shorter sessions (and even some who offer 1 hour sessions) expect you to leave as soon as you cum. They don 't really go by time (unless you go over time, then expect them to ask for more money or chase you out.) Don't expect to get a refund for your unused time, but some providers will give you your full time doing other activities besides sex, like massage, mutual shower, having a drink, talking, etc. Also many guys that book the shorter sessions are only looking to get a "nut" and leave, so while she may have been pushing you out, maybe she just thought you wanted out. You are the one who agreed to the shower and got dressed so quickly.
If you had a great time and want to see her again, then do it, but bringing up the last session will probably not be necessary, and not productive. Just try to get your full time the next session, using some of the ideas I mentioned. Or better yet try to stretch the session before you cum. How about more foreplay? How about smalltalk before you start? How about bringing a bottle of wine and having a drink before sex. Or jackoff before your appointment so you don't cum so damn quick!
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maybe and NO! First, if you would like to lie around and chat, then do so. But, after your shower and getting dressed, saying goodbye and leaving seems to be a natural conclusion to a wonderful time. So consider it as such.
Your time/money calculations are not at all accurate. Because your time/enjoyment is not a linear relationship. Meaning, the last 15 minutes is not usually as pleasurable as the middle 30 minutes. In other words, each "minute" is not worth the same to you (or her). So, in reality, you didn't leave very much at all "on the table".
So don't worry or get stressed about it. If you had a magical time, then good for you; don't overthink it
... it was 15 minutes into the session before we were both naked and on the bed--let alone "done". It took awhile for the welcoming hugs/gropes and kisses, helping each other remove our clothes, and trying a snack I'd brought. That's why I never book less than an hour, and at least 90 minutes whenever possible.
You got some good advice above about how to handle the extra time. The main thing to watch out for are the "one and we're done" providers. One aid to avoiding that is checking profiles re whether MSOG is available. Also, the providers who claim to offer "GFE", and it's substantiated in their reviews, should be fine filling the extra time with fun activities. One tip on that: I've never met a provider who didn't love getting massaged.
I just did that a few days ago, I booked a 90 minute session and with about 20 minutes left, I asked if she would like a "back rub"? Of course she did. I always bring some nice body lotion, and nearing the end of our time together I always prefer massaging her rather than her doing me. We both loved it
What sort of snack did you bring?
As far as the OP, you should get your time. Maybe she felt you couldn't? Maybe you got dressed and ran off quick? Hell, if a guy is one and done with me, I at least cuddle, kiss, and give massages.... that is after wanting to try and see if he can go again.
Tell her to take it slow and do more foreplay prior. That should help.
You got some good advice above about how to handle the extra time. The main thing to watch out for are the "one and we're done" providers. One aid to avoiding that is checking profiles re whether MSOG is available. Also, the providers who claim to offer "GFE", and it's substantiated in their reviews, should be fine filling the extra time with fun activities. One tip on that: I've never met a provider who didn't love getting massaged.
I booked two hours with a truly delightful lady (review to follow.) She had only posted her rate for one hour as $400. I booked for two so I put $800 in the envelope. During a relaxed and cuddly pause in the action, I asked what her two hour rate was, and she said $600. "Why she asked, how much did you put in the envelope?'
I told her and she said she would open the envelope and give me bak $200. I refused.
We went back to fun and she kept things going for 2 and 1/2 hours.
It was a great time and the last half hour was full of fun and sensation.
She clearly wanted to give me my money's worth.
... the hourly rate goes down as the hours go up. For example, I know a wonderful provider who charges $400 for 1 hour, 700 for 2 hours and $800 for 3 hours. It's clear she prefers longer sessions. OTOH, I know another well-reviewed provider who charges 2.5x her hourly rate for 2 hours. It appears she likes shorter sessions.
for both of you. It goes both ways, treat he well she SHOULD treat you well and vs versa.
IDC if it was an alright session, if a gal is going to be fair and honest with you, that should be celebrated.
I hope you see her again and you both appreciate each other.
Once I booked with a lady and all she had was hour rates. I just assumed it was the same per hour and gave her the such for 3 hrs. She checked and I really had a banging ass time. She knew I left more than what she charges and was so dang nice to me, I wish she'd come into the area again lol.
I told her and she said she would open the envelope and give me bak $200. I refused.
We went back to fun and she kept things going for 2 and 1/2 hours.
It was a great time and the last half hour was full of fun and sensation.
She clearly wanted to give me my money's worth.
I stick around for. After all I'm there to have a good time, so why not have one?
If it bothers you that much don't see her again, chances are repeat visits never live up to the first one you are trying to recreate, or you wouldn't be repeating in the first place.... Then again!
Shower play is always a lot of fun.
From what I've heard, after we had sex, a $ 100.00 HH Hooker is not going to run her fingers through my hair, lightly caress my chest, mention over and over how great a time she had, she hopes to see me again.
With fifteen to twenty minutes left, after I'm done, she'll more likely escort me to the door and quickly freshen up for Mr. Next.
Look at the bright side, in a HH you had magical sex, talked fast and took a shower with 15 minutes to spare. There's a record in there somewhere.
I'd be thanking my lucky stars she didn't take my money, throw my pants down the hall and run out the door to another floor .
Don't want to sound petty just trying to figure out the proper etiquette.
a lady had to vacuum before our session, it was OTC of course not my ideal use of time, but hey it's something to brag about.
Perhaps the OP can get some domestic time on his return visit.
You got EXACTLY wtf you paid for.
Actually.........you may be surprised. In Las Vegas, there are quite a few AMAZING providers who will give you a nude, mutual touch, rub and tug/or BBBJ......if that is what you are into. May not be FS or GFE..........but........that IS what the market will bear.
BUT..........just like clipping coupons.......and finding the best grocery buy for your money...........one must do their research.
Do a TER search and you may be even more surprised.
I for one, would NEVER pay more than 200 (if you are a hobbyist, feel free to ask me about my experiences)..........and while most providers who belong to TER charge significantly more than that.........I again, believe in a free market economy............more power to them..........and that whatever the market will bear............so be it.
Yah, but Vegas is also a saturated market making it harder for many to get away with higher rates if they do not have other income. I know just as many women in Vegas who charge near or over a grand, and have nothing but 9s and 10s. FBSM women cannot get higher than a 7 without offering BBBJ, Anal or being really bi which no client would know unless they offered full on doubles with girl/girl interaction for that rate.
I am not saying women at that rate don't exist... I just don't know a single one of them personally. I know webcam girls who make more than that, with NO interaction... strippers as well.
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You had a great experience, you were safe, no "incidents"- and the lady kindly offers half hours (which a lot of us DO NOT) and after you nut & wash your ass- you complain about 10-15 minutes of clock time?
Yes, you sound petty.
Maybe I sound like a bitch, but calling a duck a duck is kinda my thing.
Otherwise, next time around, when she asks if you would like a shower, just simply ask her, "Well do you mind if we chat for a few minutes before I hop in the shower?" If she minds then that is her professional mistake and not your pettiness.
I mean.... all you wanted was to chat? No biggie... I would think.
Foxy
Don't want to sound petty just trying to figure out the proper etiquette.
I'm still stunned reading that someone sells herself for a $100.... WTF!!!! Ugh ugh ugh .....
It's only a short term rental.
but yeah, even in third world countries, the going rate is usually more than a hundred bucks nowadays.
Guys want more than pay for it. Want a real human then go for itl
Yes, you sound petty.
Maybe I sound like a bitch, but calling a duck a duck is kinda my thing.
Otherwise, next time around, when she asks if you would like a shower, just simply ask her, "Well do you mind if we chat for a few minutes before I hop in the shower?" If she minds then that is her professional mistake and not your pettiness.
I mean.... all you wanted was to chat? No biggie... I would think.
Foxy
Don't want to sound petty just trying to figure out the proper etiquette.
Five minutes to undress and get briefly acquainted, and at least five more to shower, dress, and say goodbye. That leaves only five minutes for the good stuff? Wow...talk about slam, bam, thank you, mam!
Would love to see a review of this one...
Must have been truly magical indeed!
You can certainly try to steer dates to last the full time if you want to chit chit more or get/give a massage, etc. Not too difficult to do. I've done this a couple times, but on longer dates. And if she balks or looks at you funny and says "why, I thought we were done?" - then you just need to decide if this is the type of experience you are satisfied with. BUT, having said that, honestly, for $100, if you are getting a single pop then you really are getting a good deal, well under almost all markets for this, including AMP experiences. So I REALLY don't think you should make too big a deal over this. You would risk losing a good thing that you yourself have descibed as "magical."
If you were satisfied with the experience..........consider what you paid was for her "services," NOT her time. Sounds like all that you received was worth significantly more than you paid.
Some hobbyists on here (NOT me) would have paid 400 for what you received. Even in Las Vegas there are many providers who will provide a "rub and tug" for 100.........but many would only give you a damp cloth to clean up.
Consider yourself ahead...........also consider what providers go through just to get and then go through with an appointment. They deserve all the respect in the world and all the consideration we can give them.
Hope this helps.
You can't have it both ways.
That said, he spent a lousy hundred bucks, what more can you really expect for a C note?
Crap... busted lol. Fact is, many providers do market themselves service by service. For instance, I have seen many public ads go something like this:
FBSM 150
L1 (HJ ending)175
L2 (Bj ending) 225
L3 (FS ending) 300
To me, anything less than 200 or so (heavily dependent on area) would not include msog for damn sure. I know I wouldn't do it. I would be worn the fk out if I had to serve up 2 plus cups for every guy and only make that much. It's not about not liking sex or wanting to please either, but about the actual physical drain not to mention the mental drain. I am sorry, but I do not care how much someone claims to loooooooove sex... it will get old when you HAVE TO do it 10 times a week for years on end just to make your bills. I love skydiving too, but if I jumped every damn day multiple times because I had to, it would certainly reduce the pleasure factor by a country mile.
I love sex, and unlike you I love to sex right about 10 times a week, but like you if I HAD to do it 10 times a week, I'd probably grow to dislike it.
Cooking is another one of those things that come to mind. I love to cook, but I cook because I want to, not because I have to. If I ever were to be forced to cook everyday, I am sure I would enjoy it a LOT less.
and thank you for admitting that hookers can't have it both ways, simultaneously claiming that they are paid for their time, and paid for "services provided" We ALL know we are paying to get laid, PLEASE lets stop with the charade that we are paying for "time and companionship" If I wanted companionship I'd buy a dog, when I want my dick sucked by someone who will go away when she is done, I call a hooker. Why is this such a tough concept for so many to grasp?
and then after you can prove to me that MY dick will be safe, then we can work on the part about my dog going away afterwards.
In the meantime, I am going to stick with hookers. lol
this is funny...damn funny...I don't care who you are!!
Um, because I am not offering PSE lol. If I did, and used to actually... it was indeed extra. If I am expected to do NOTHING but be a human blow up doll, then I would either charge more for that or in all honesty, not see guys who wanted that.
You are talking about half hours and hours, right? My dates generally start at 2 hours unless I offer a touring intro for 90 min. so yah, don't much care in that case, but it's rare. I have met exactly two men who could actually go more than twice in 90 min... both reviewed me here and both are from Fla.
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If you worked out with a personal trainer and hit the weights............you could always add to your FS répertoire and offer FBSM w/HJ or BJ........that would save wear and tear on that very special part of your female anatomy.
And.......bet there is an ample number of clients who are "one and done."
Work on those wrist muscles and biceps/triceps...........and increase your business multi-fold.
Not interested. I screen for many fbsm women and most guys go the cheap route then try to get extras for the fbsm rate. FYI, I do have a trainer already and we are not working out my wrists. I don't spend time with men who are activity based, but rather experience based. If they are looking for a vagina to 'wear out' they know to keep looking. My mouth on the other hand, can go all day. I am not going to see 5 guys a day giving out handjobs to make what I could in ONE GFE date a week... that's just retarded to me.
FBSM 150
L1 (HJ ending)175
L2 (Bj ending) 225
L3 (FS ending) 300
To me, anything less than 200 or so (heavily dependent on area) would not include msog for damn sure. I know I wouldn't do it. I would be worn the fk out if I had to serve up 2 plus cups for every guy and only make that much. It's not about not liking sex or wanting to please either, but about the actual physical drain not to mention the mental drain. I am sorry, but I do not care how much someone claims to loooooooove sex... it will get old when you HAVE TO do it 10 times a week for years on end just to make your bills. I love skydiving too, but if I jumped every damn day multiple times because I had to, it would certainly reduce the pleasure factor by a country mile.
You had 15-20 minutes left in your HH session...lets say 20..so 10 left
You took a quick shower and got dressed...5min (minimum)....5min left
You were enjoying small talk. 2min
So you had 3 min to arrive, chit chat, undress and have a "rather magical experience" with her.
Doesn't sound like her experience was too magical.
Also, with many HH is code for one and done.
Don't want to sound petty just trying to figure out the proper etiquette.
.. (15 to 20) minutes left after undress, sex, shower, and get dressed when he only did a half hour session? I took him to mean whatever amonut of time he paid for divided out to $100/hh. Ex: 1 hour - $200, 2 hours - $400 etc.
OP you should have done your chit chat, cuddling, whatever naked. Then showered and dressed to leave. I agree with a previous poster that said the provider probably figured you were ready to leave once you showered etc.
I don't start the shower and dress until it's time to so it's the last thing. There should be no time left once you've showered and dressed.
What we really need in order to give you good feedback is to see her TER profile and read some reviews
You are correct I was breaking the session down into half hour increments.
Who the fuck showers and puts their clothes on with 20 min. left? 20 min. left after showering and dressing? That's even worse. Even if I was unable to get it up again I find it enjoyable to touch and be touched in a casual manner. A woman's body and mind can be intimately enjoyed without the act of sex.
What do you expect, a half hour is a quickie visit.....something a guy does on his lunch break. Someone who expects to get MSOG out of a 30 minute session is ridiculous. I offer half hours on a case by case basis and I find something interested about MOST of the guys that book the 30 minutes, tend to be the worst to overstay their welcome and essentially try to get an hour session with a 30 minute rate.
Some ladies I work with love offering them, some hate them, I let them decide. Im one that I think if a gent books an hour or longer, he should get an unrushed full appointment, but a 30 or 15 minute Short stay visit.....really, Its a dump and run, You wanted to lay around and have her stroke your hair for 5 minutes ? Come on, lol!
I do. My favorites are all happy to go more than once on a half hour visit if I am able. To me it sounds like you want to do as little as possible to earn your money. Just another entitled hooker hiding behind an alias. Your ridiculous.
I don't know what's more comical... you telling ANY business person how to conduct one, or you being naive enough to believe the women who only get your chump change 'are actually happy about it' lol. Gawd. I love 90 percent of the men I see, but there is a reason... more than one. If I had to deal with low life fktards for pennies on the dollar, I could just work a damn 9-5 for the same amount of money and more respect. Tell me... how many Hotels not Motels can you rent for a hundred bucks? Now, tell me how many guys a provider would have to fk in a day to come out ahead? Oh wait, that's right... who cares.
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Hotels...Motels? I go to her home. No need to rent a room. HMMM I don't think I told anyone how to run their business. Wait, wait, wait....you said you could work a 9-5 and get more respect. You must not feel too good about what you are doing if you think you would get more respect working at Walmart.
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News flash girlfriend! I didn't post complaining about anything. Do you even know what post you are replying too? Your just making yourself look ignorant. Please, try and pull it together!
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Yes, my family would respect me more working at Walmart (not that I would ever tell them I was a hooker) but being I have far more education than that, I would probably not apply there unless it was for Marketing or Human Resources Mgmt. You said it buddy, not mie. 'You can go to her home' ... LMFAO.. How smart and discreet is that? Not at all, which is why most of us have the common sense to charge enough to cover a place that can't be traced back to our real names. Gosh, I digress. Maybe if you paid those hookers a little more, they would not HAVE TO work from home. Duh....you're really proving my point which was you do not give two shits about the women you see, nor do they about YOU. They probably have to put up with cheap fks like you to feed their children. Better hope I don't scoop them up and show them how to really make money lol.
P.S. For Fk sake, PLEASE learn how to use proper English whilst trying to sound like you know shit from shit... thanks. Your insults are a lot more effective when you can make sense.
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But instead you lie to your family about everything that you are. You can nit pick my English and make your "witty" remarks but in the end you are the one that lies to those you "care" about because you KNOW they would have NO respect for you if they knew you were hooker. So duh...your insults are garbage because I know exactly who I am but you still have to lie about who you are.
And I see no reason to do extra for the same rate I can do less for. I screen for a certain type of guy and get them. No need to get the moneys worth camp. So if that makes me entitled I say this I am an ENTITLED HOOKER, don't like it, fuck off and find an easier mark..
I'm sorry did I attack you personally or just hit to close to the truth. I don't give two shits what you think. The truth is that there are plenty of well respect hookers that provide what I need in my price range. If you choose to denigrate them and myself because you think so much of yourself well then you called it. You are part of the 1%.....the entitled hookers. Such a distinction. You should be sooo proud!
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The "lazy hooker" comment. But I sure hit a nerve with you "monies worth" guy. Saw you stated that in a post. Well now I know why you're so upset. That there are hookers out there that won't deal with a trick like you.
I merely stated that I will not work any harder than I have to. An admission of being an ENTITLED hooker...I am ENTITLED, entitled to work how I see fit .
I am proud that I avoid the asswipes that feel a hooker should be fucked into the ground.
I never mentioned your price range and could care less if you got a bj from a drugged out street hooker or paid in the thousands for a super model look-a-like.
You stick to the hookers that satisfy you and I will stick to the johns that I can accommodate and keep my sanity.
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Ok, correct you did not really denigrate anyone.
Please let us all know where I said "lazy hookers".
Is it bad for me to feel like I got my moneys worth?
Where did I say I feel a hooker should be fucked into the ground?
Your so sexy when you use capital letters.
I do completely agree with your last sentence.
To bad you hide behind an alias. It kills your credibility.
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