Good luck with that.

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What are you saying?

I don't care how slow business is, running specials just opens up cans of worms by the 12-pack. No me gusta.

blow n go is the nickname , see its a way to reduce the population while producing revenue for the homeland . it costs 50k dollars and the country of entry is us . so you girls have some new completion cum ming starts jan 1 2015 . good luck, I heard they will charge 150.00 American dollars per hour and 100.00 per hour for every hour added on . I got the flyer .  

do I and honestly I cant wait . you know I heard most of the girls are between the age of 25 to 40 and those European girls have great legs and love to fuck , that's why the French have always been a happy people , finally its our turn . happy new year . and estimates are 500,00 initially then another couple hundred thousand girls a year , within 5 years we'll all need Viagra , I cant wait .

But you were only answering for yourself.  

No, cuz that discount will never end. When things pick up and the provider decides that it's time for the  "until further notice"  part and tries to go back to her normal rates that she's actually worth, all her clients are not going to want to pay that. They'll have been spoiled. They'll find someone cheaper and things will once again be super slow. Better to just stay at the same rate and just wait for things to pick up.

What do you think of the spread of Putin fucking a reindeer?

Pretty hot, huh?

Could you post a photo of the flyer?
It is going to take them a long time to pay back the 50K at only $150 an hour.

Whenever that Russian gal from NYC posts my head starts spinning.

hell ya i agree

Offering specials will increase your volume in the short term, but what happens when it's time for those rates to come back up? Many guys are simply going to just say "meh, I'll just wait until she runs another special." Then it turns into a vicious circle. That may be fine for some ladies, but I prefer to have a nest egg to get me through the slow times (that tends to be the end of summer for me) so that I don't have to deal with the long term effects of running specials.  

I see your 60 minute is 450...but 90 is only 50 more.

It's also an excellent test to see whether or not a dude actually read my shit.

Sure, if you don't NEED the income, I guess you don't have to discount. Good for you.  

I knew that wasn't just a "hooker math" issue on your part however  

Posted By: Tobi Telford

It's also an excellent test to see whether or not a dude actually read my shit.

I am sure I can entrust you to keep my bitches in line here? LOL. Like I needed to ask, right?

I would imagine this time of year has to tough on providers. We gents have more family around plus we have to deal with holiday shopping and the bills that follow, property taxes, quarterly taxes if self employed and the NFL playoffs. That's a lot on the plate.

And perception is that a discount means hurry and get it before it's gone.

If a hooker is doing well, well then no need to. Years ago I ran a discount and I got every cheap ass SOB who pushed for more time, more services, and pushed boundaries.  

Do you have any solid proof that this works for hookers?  

a few guys she really likes at her old price. In reality she got rid of you, you got rid of her, I'd say a win, win

There's no shortage of gals using the discount method...in particular during the Holiday's.

Okay smart ass, I have not ever advertised on BP. And glad it didn't work, the guys were gross.

But that's OK too...I agree with his analysis.

That's an specific aspect unique to your business. For a lot of folk, whether dealing in product or service or combination, there's no reason to care whose business you attract. Maybe this idea would have a different response if posted on a barbershop board or one for plumbers.

Let's try this again, and keep it to this business. Do you know for sure that running  specials for a decent length of time has no impact on a hookers bottom line when resuming regular rates?  

This is a business yes but a very different and unique PERSONAL business. An example being, if I was a retail store, I would pick certain items and they would be discounted. A customer comes in and sees the item and buys it...some stores even limit the amount of items per person on the discounted item.  

I guess no one sees any reason to be alarmed about a temporary slowdown. And h+t sort of summed up the downside: attracting clients you don't really want as clients. Which makes perfect sense and sort of warms my heart when I think of the truly exquisite women who look forward to my business.

nope , theyre excited . see its like a career for them , theyre enthusiastic , cant wait to cum and love men , happy girls theyre called and Id show you the flyer but a lot guys here told me not to , so sorry .. but...if you want to lower those rates of yours in advance the guys here said it will be looked upon favorably .!!! so your call ..xoxo

reminds them of marriage , ya know the voice of death so now its temporary but they do enjoy it .. also reminds them why theyre divorced and that's a good thing , no ..???

It's only an issue when that Walmart gal is trying to sell herself as the Macy or Bloomie gal...and you've known (or should have) many examples of that here.

Just don't up your rates to cover the fees.  Kind of defeats the purpose of the discounts  LOL

anyway , theyre cum ming to  fuck us . hmmm didn't they do that already in the 80s ? along with the Cuban crime wave ? jimmy carter , funny guy he loved the world but they don't love us .
and I know ron took the wall down guess he wasn't the perfect president !!

If you are talking high volume low fee type hookers, sure there might be a time slot to fill and 80 bucks is better than 100 bucks.

But once again we can agree to disagree.

It has everything to do with focusing on what's most beneficial in the long term as opposed to addressing things only on a short term basis. If someone is struggling financially (or in any aspect, really), it's a much better strategy to address the overall cause of the problem rather than simply adopting a band-aid strategy to deal with the symptoms

he op the times of 100 dollar holiday rate are coming just watch n see !!  hey boris who won the 1980 winter Olympics , I know u read my shit .!!  
haha fan tastic  .lol

No inventory needs to be moved from my vagina to make room for spring's hottest new looks.

As for Santa, he's over my age maximum.

Posted By: Dr Who revived

I knew that wasn't just a "hooker math" issue on your part however    
   
 Santa asked me to ask you if you've been a good girl this year?  
   

Posted By: Tobi Telford

It's also an excellent test to see whether or not a dude actually read my shit.

The Bolshoi does a grand ballet and opens with a limited run at $200 a seat, then sends out the blue troupe to a limited tour where they charge $30 a seat while the red troupe introduces new choreography. Yes, different, but not just running specials to get people in the door, but rather to maximize the value of a production.

when it's your kitty, we'll let you make the rules.

I'd never do that to a client I really liked. In the grand scheme of things, the $200 (or whatever) isn't worth treating a great guy that way.

I'm in the northeast, and the weeks from Thanksgiving till about mid-January have historically been the best of the entire year...those, and the first few weeks of spring. As a general rule, if restaurants are busy, I'm busy. Feb-March are deadly, Sept-Oct also on the slower side. Christmastime, springtime, summertime are hopping. But that's just me

Now I just flat out fucking love you

I guess I was mistaken  LOL

You'd realize that his entire thrust was targeting large retail establishments selling low end commodities.

But they are only on multi-hour engagements, and I'm not incurring the price of a absurdly high hotel rate to cover. It's only on specific packages.

Actually, I've met some really great guys when I do this which isn't often. It's a win win for me. I'm chilled until after Jan 1 so it's all good for me.

Steph xoxo

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Anyhoo...enjoy your time away!

The examples that the author cited don't change the point of the article, which is still to not undervalue your product/service just to compensate for an economic downturn. No drivel necessary, cranky pants.

Because hookers are not retail stores so why compare us to them and that type of business. That was my point and you got it

Service business is quite a different animal than retail or manufacturing.  As well in his article he is taking into account fixed costs that...in this game in particular...are of no material cost.  His variable cost equation is also one that has virtually no impact in this world...nor much in the service sector.

Posted By: Tobi Telford

The examples that the author cited don't change the point of the article, which is still to not undervalue your product/service just to compensate for an economic downturn. No drivel necessary, cranky pants.

So you are stating that you only sell time?

Thank you for the kind offer of a discounted session in econ, but I shall pass, I am not about to fix what is not broken with my business.  

What learning accomplishes is being able to make more informed decisions.  Many are like you and are afraid to examine how they do what they do...can they do it better and more efficiently...hence maximizing their income.

with hookers who won't discount and wants to show us in an econ lesson that how we work it is flawed. I have no issue with him trying to tell the thousands of hookers he knows how to run their businesses, I am not interested though.

Apparently discussing the content of an article that is incorrect in summarizing the service business is a bit too much for you.  Sorry...I thought you were interested in this topic.

Well you might as well bitch at Tobi, we both did. Like the thousands of hookers you profess to know? And how they let you in on all the secrets of hooking, back to that sad little tale huh?

She already said that she's tried the discount route, that it produced undesirable results for her, and that she's managed to find a rate structure that makes her happy AND financially secure. If that's not learning, I don't know what is.  

You just babbled some BS and want to toss out ad hominem to deflect the actual subject matter.

And found that her one attempt garnered bad results.  Too bad she had to have YOU point out the obvious.

No? I'm surprised.  

the fact is, supply and demand are real.

But as of 2015, I will be offfering a discount for morning only appointments as well. Im pretty busy at all other times. It is not slow for me right now and most of January is prebooked, as well as half of February. I would like more morning appts and that is the ONLY reason for offering that discount. NOT because I need the money. For the last 6 months my mornings have been dedicated to a personal matter, but that has ceased. I guess you can call it I'm Bored In The Morning special?  

If I feel the fit is not going to benefit me, I pass,  I pass on more than I book. So clearly if I was in the "some money is better than no money" camp, I would book those I felt an incompatibility with and suffered through the session. Not worth the mental torture. Some tricks just do not get this aspect.

... because it's wise business practice to vary your pricing points.

And you are happy with your volume and don't need anymore? I feel that is what Tobi and I are talking about. We (Tobi and I) don't have a need to discount at Christmas or any other time of the year in order to make whatever it is we want to make.  

In fact I am having to turn away guys because I am booked. Hence no need to discount my rates.

... that there are ladies who will discount rates, not be cause they "have to", because they WANT to. Some do it not because business is slow, they do it because they can. Not because of what you and Tobi do or don't do.

...."because it's wise business practice to vary your pricing points"....

He had an unhealthy obsession with my mentor when she was still around, and now he likes to follow me around since he can't creep on her anymore. He's the most universally disliked person on this site for reasons of pure creepiness (plus he's just a giant crybaby buzzkill). It's sad and weird.  

Buzz kills suck

... your attempt in being a white-night is making you look like a donkey.
 

... has business been slow for you, too?

... throwing that 'a' in there before the word 'another' is a sure sign of a stutterer.  

So much yes ....

In theory, it may sound like a good idea, and for some ladies, it may work. But many ladies notice a trend with offering specials, even when it is apparent that these specials are only offered for such-and-such amount of time, so you better act on them now. Many gents do not take this to heart, and some may act on the specials offered (and are the same one's who will continue to ask or try to pay the discounted rate far after it has ended, and then tell the lady they will see them again only when they are offering specials again), and others will continue to ask about the special once it has ended, and again, pull the, "Well, I'll try you back when you're running specials again", or the famous, "But please, just for me, just this one time". These gents also tend to be the type who do not respect the ladies time or boundaries...and many are the "problem client" type.