So I have my eyes on this 21 year old stripper girl, who's about a decade younger than me. She's rather shy in terms of approaching people... but not too shy taking her cloths off on the stage and table dances (obviously lol)

At 10pm, I give myself a nice shave, put some light cologne, dress up well (casual), and take my just-waxed sports car (not that she will notice it lol) and head out to the best strip club in the area where I know she works at this hour.

Having gotten a few dances from her last week, she immediately recognizes and greets me. We chat for a little while but she's soon on stage.

While most guys are tipping merely dollar, I whip out 5 singles at a time, sometimes 10... just cuz I like her... Other guys were looking at me funny cuz I gave her so many dollar bills. lol

When she's done, she comes around... sits next to me to chat. She's not the type to 'ask' any guy for a dance, being kinda shy...  She mostly sits alone or with her friend who's also a stripper, not because she isn't hot, but simply cuz she doesn't aggressively approach anyone.
(she's frickin gorgeous and IMHO is the hottest bod I've ever seen)

Yet she seems comfortable with me maybe cuz I try to work up (what little is left of my) charm with her, cracking stupid/doofus/slapstick/lame jokes which she laughs at (thankfully), and just carrying on a conversation about each other's lives...
( Little does she know, I'm rather nervous too cuz believe it or not, I too am kinda shy infront of gorgeous babes as hot as she is... but she probably didn't notice it. )

Noticed today that she's really taking the time to sit next to me... almost exclusively. Whenever she's done 'making her rounds', she just comes sit next to me to chat. She's never ever aggressive like other girls in asking for a quick dance. Never grabs my crotch, never asks to 'get naughty'. In fact I'm the one who suggest we get a lapdance or table dance or two... both out of courtesy & because I appreciate her keeping me company and don't want to 'short change' her time.

So today, I asked if I could take her out to dinner some time... She smiled and says I'm sweet... but neither a yes or a no. LMAO (I'll take that as a 'no'). But I completely expected this, since this is only our 2nd time meeting.

I refrained from asking if she 'provides' because some girls get really offended by this blunt question on a 2nd time meeting. Besides I'm much more interested in dating her at this point in time, although it'll be icing on the cake if she does provide. If you have experience dating a 'shy' dancer who's at least 10 years younger than you, any advice would be welcomed as to what my next sequences of moves should be.

"If you have experience dating a 'shy' dancer who's at least 10 years younger than you, any advice would be welcomed as to what my next sequences of moves should be."

As long as you are throwing her money she will make you believe you are her honey.
Try not tipping her for a month or two, you "might" get lucky if she still talks to you.

This has happened to me also. Take it slow. One step at a time.

I remember visiting a stripper for about 5 times before she agreed to go to a motel with me.  And no, I did not pay. She willing went and we had a overnighter. This was a very shy one. I felt bad, because she liked me and she called a few days after, but didn't really wanted a serious relationship.

I was lucky with a stripper once. Saw her a couple of times dancing, and finally got the nerve to take her to a private room upstairs and bought her drinks. After a few drinks, I was hard and pulled it out. She sat on my cock and we fucked in a private room above the strip club.  This stripper hardly spoke but she was oozzing sex and the animalistic attraction between us took over.

...and that's a nice thing to be. She feels comfortable hanging around while you're in the club. Any thought of dating you, a customer whose money she takes, is probably out of the question for her. She acts demure about it to avoid telling you the truth.

As a general rule, if you're wondering whether a stripper wants to date you, she doesn't. If she wants to, she'll let you know without any doubt. Even the "shy" one.

I'm telling you this because you're a hobby brother and can appreciate this.

That, and for any other fool that reads this that didn't have the balls to post such a thing.

Of course she's shy. You're fawning all over her. The other guys give her one's and your giving her fives. She knows you want more than she might not be willing to give.

And of course you're nervous. You're enamored of her. It's totally understandable. There's not one mother-fucker on this site that can sit there with a straight face and tell you or I that they were never nervous about confronting a lady they were sexually attracted to. Not ONE!!!

So, I'm going to guess the reasons why she didn't take you up on your dinner offer.

1. She has a BF. She's young, attractive, and hooked up with some young stud that'll put up with her shit stripping cuz he's fucking someone else while she's at work.
2. She's still trying to figure out why you pay 5X what other guys are paying her for to put snail trails on your lap. Know what I'm sayin'?
3. She has no social skills. She knows she's attractive, and digs the attention of being onstage, but when it comes to interacting with men that she clearly knows want her for her body and not 'her', she clams up, no pun intended there.
4. She doesn't find you attractive. Hey, shit happens. She might think you look like Ernest Borgnine, while the next one thinks you look like Brad Pitt.
5. She's a lesbian.

I could go on, but the fact of the matter is, and I know we had this conversation before on another thread. Gambler even said that hobbying and going to boobie bars are right next door to each other. Seeing providers is more honest.

How long you want to sit there and keep handing over money and pay for watered down drinks in hopes of fucking this girl when you can make a date with one of these lovely ladies and be sure you get your pee pee wet?

Fuck, you have reviews dude. You know the game. Why revert back to a chance when you know the certainty here?

Unless you want to MARRY the girl?!!!! lmao!!!

do not let on that you like her just yet...play a little hard to get...and as sinsoftheflsh stated do NOT stalk her it is a HUGE turn OFF...trust me I know lol

My advice would be to leave it alone. I can only forsee problems in that relationship, young women especially stripers don't know what they want.

Tell her your ex sold it for drugs when you were in prison, and now you're too broke to even get your motorcycle fixed, so on your date can she drive? She'll ask you to move in with her.

you inadvertantly blew it with the higher than normal stage tipping. That's the first thing YOU AVOID if you like a stripper and set your eye on her.

Start over with someone else; make it another club too. And for god sakes man, don't waste your time unless she if HALF your age.

I'm too tired to type the rest of the advice. Maybe some other time.


HH

"You can't undo being the nice guy who spent money on her by reverse engineering yourself into a hard-to-get bad boy"

 Yep You are right.
If he wants any stripper pussy he will have to go to another club,  start over with a new and improved dilligaf image.
Once a stripper, or any woman has him pegged as a pushover, it's usually a dead end or empty pockets.

She's either sitting next to me chuckling at my drunken nonsense or talking to her friend at another table. They seem very close because they're always together when they aren't dancing. And I'm pretty certain she talks about me quite a bit to her friend, because they sometimes glance at me while whispering to each other.

Another clue is that every girl offered a dance except for one: Her friend! Since I don't smell/look disgusting, I doubt it's that. My guess is, her friend has 'marked' me as someone she shouldn't approach.

I see two possibilities where this 'mark' could either be a good sign or a bad sign... But anyway, I hear you. Hobby is about the "Fo Sho' Thing". Yet there's still the thrill of the hunt involved in pursuing a girl that we like (lust). It's 70% because I like her. 30% to see if I still got enough GAME to pull this off. (maybe 60/40? LOL) Gonna be quite a costly mission but something tells me it won't be as bad as what most civy women have cost me over the years in all honesty.

Also you're correct, probably not going to lead to no marriage with a 21 yr old this year. However, if she turns out to be a great person, I don't rule out the possibility of where life can take me. Of course, my ENTIRE FAMILY may be against if they find out her occupation... but I doubt she / her family would like it if they read any of the perverted shit I posted on TER. LMAO
Same wine different label. Either way, I'm not even remotely thinking about big M yet.

I pursued a stripper before I found the Hobby. Now strip clubs are somewhere I go on a date.

Years ago when I was still in my 20s, in las vegas. She first lead me on with a fantastic wet BBBJ in the VIP room... It was totally unexpected but OMG. And talk about a nice BAIT!  When the VIP service was about done (while she wiped off her mouth LOL), she asked if I "party". Didn't have the faintest idea what the heck that meant at the time, being an innocent drunken chump but she gave me her number & I thought that was a good thing.  I really thought she just wanted to go to someone's party with me as an actual 'civvy date'. LOL (Back then, a few civvy girls asked me out believe it or not, so I thought it was another one of those.)

When I called her the next day, she said her rate was a whopping $1000!!!!! WTF!?  Seriously WTF?  Well to make a long dick short, being my first opportunity to fuck a stripper and not knowing how much typical escorts cost, my other head took over and booked a hotel. She wasn't even that good in retrospect for the price, but she did perform some bizarre acts that I wasn't too comfortable with. As a result, it made me forever lose my innocence to the hobbying world.  lol

They say "ultimate prize" for all guys is to sleep with a stripper WITHOUT having to PAY her for it, cuz it means she really likes you and you got enough game. Looks like you got your trophy, you stud.

Sorry to say don't get your hopes up. She may be shy (or act that way) but it's the $$ that matters. She knows as long as you're there she doesn't need to "work the room". I'm not saying something couldn't come of it but it'll be a long time before you can tell and be sure. I assure you the drama won't be worth it. Like a previous poster said try no $$$ for a while and see how things go.

To stop spending money on her wouldn't help at this point. It'll save you some money, but it won't turn you into dating material in her eyes. You can't undo being the nice guy who spent money on her by reverse engineering yourself into a hard-to-get bad boy.

it's not so much that she's a stripper as it is to her being young. i have "dated" 3 strippers; ages 19, 21, and 25. the 2 younger ones were fun for a short while but waaay more drama/hassle than its worth. however, at 25, she had 6 years under her belt and was past the excitement and rush that new/young girls experience in the biz. she was much easier to get along with. if you plan on continuing to visit her, you're gonna have to be direct and let her know you wanna take her out. and don't let her get away with just a giggle. good luck man.