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Freya Fantasia See my TER Reviews 4609 reads
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It always makes me mad when somebody says something rude in a review that I don’t think I deserve. I recently had somebody say my dog is annoying. My sweet little reason for living never does anything wrong (okay, not much)!  Another person gave me a low score because he believes I faked an orgasm, and someone else said that I don’t kiss enough.  I have never been accused of not kissing enough!  

When this happens, I just want to post On Twitter, TER, and on my website, for the world to see, that they were wrong and I’m mad at them.  

I’ve even considered delisting from TER. Not only did I feel like these unkind words were not true, the below average numbers they gave me didn’t help me any, and people would be deciding whether or not to see me based on this new information.  This led me to do some research about delisting and I have decided to post my thoughts. Maybe it will help.

Regarding delisting, you guys basically say, “You have to expect reviews. You have a business so you’re going to get Reviews.  Suck it up”. To those guys I say, “I wish you could TRY IT.  Let’s post a nude photo of you and critique every aspect of your appearance, your body, INCLUDING your genitalia, and your lovemaking skills for everyone to see” I don’t know if you can really know what it feels like until that happens to you.  But I don’t think you guys would like it very much either.

And for goodness sake, there is a way of saying things! There is a classy way and there is a low class way. I really don’t believe that this hobby is inherently sleazy, and yet, it just seems to bring that out in a lot of the guys and they  describe us in a sleazy, awful way.

It’s so easy to see when you read the reviews, that the nice guys are saying THE SAME THING, and painting the same mental picture, but they’re using less hurtful words to do it.  

A lot of ladies have delisted, even though TER is a valuable advertising tool.  I’m not saying don’t be honest.  I’m just saying, please think about how you say things to people on the boards and especially in the reviews. Just because providers doesn’t mean you should talk to us and about us like we are whores.  

If you disagree, then why do you think so many popular ladies have delisted from TER?

barrycade145 reads

I can only speak as a hobbyist, but I am aware of the impact of a bad review on a provider.

 
I recently saw a provider and told her what I will tell you: You can't expect unanimity on anything.

 
I would tell you what I am sure you have been told, which is to let it roll off your back. I know that is easy for me to say.

 
I am aware that a number of providers have delisted or don't want reviews.

 
In a service industry, no different from seeing a doctor, lawyer, or accountant, I solicit opinions from others.

 
A fancy add does nothing for me in terms of seeing someone without reviews.

 
I respect anyone's business model. If someone delists or discourages reviews they are free to do so.

 
But IMO they lose a percentage, I can't say how much, of hobbyists who will see them.

 
I glanced at your reviews and it is clear you are well reviewed.

 
It's easy for me to say don't take a bad review to heart.

 
But I am drawn to a provider who has TER reviews and is a member of p411.

 
I simply do not know what I am receiving for an often significant donation if a provider has no reviews.

I think like anything TER can be used as a tool. Especially if you are starting out and try to make a good reputation. Now just say you put some time in. You know what sites or social platforms gets you your clients. If you feel you no longer need TER then leave it behind and use the sites you know that have been good to you. Is it great to know what other think of your service, of course but I found I'm always looking for a unicorn, which has been a long search, hence not everyone is going to be super happy because expectation is high in their mind.  

What I would suggest is asking what are three things they must have during your time together, I'm guilty of this too, especially meeting someone for the first time is going with the flow and let her take the lead. Reasons I do this is to feel out if the provider loves sex or just the money. I tend to go back to providers that love sex and are not trying to make me pop as fast as possible. You really need to pull those answers out of them, but it takes too much effort and investment. I think if you ask three things they must have, instead of open ended like what do you like, guys are forced to pick answers instead of the answer "everything".

That's actually a great idea - asking a gentleman what 3 things he most wants during the session. Though I'm really good at figuring out what each gentleman wants and bringing out his devilish side.  

Btw if you're looking for a provider who really loves sex and doesn't rush, you know where to find me ;)

If 4 or 5 reviewers in a row.. Basically say the same thing.. that's a trend.. a bunch if great reviews and one less than great.. take that one with grain of salt. I ignore it.
I also am very aware of what a bad review might do to a providers business.  There are ways of saying things that don't  sound awful, but yet are honest.

John_Laroche106 reads

If you have a problem with the last 2 reviews, you're way too sensitive.

a TER review average of 9.09 through 250+ reviews, so why are you worried about the occasional bad review?  This is not a team sport, it's highly individual. No provider connects with EVERY customer.  

 
There are a lot of providers who would love to have an average like yours and would not try to find something to complain about.  Just remember that your reviewers also include ALL of the guys who have given you the scores that support this high average.  If you delist, you get rid of all of the good reviews, too.  Reviews are what drive the customers to see you.  Most of us customers have been burned at one time or another seeing girls with no reviews, so if you lose the reviews, you are also going to also lose customers that do not see ladies who have no reviews. Something to think about.  

Once-Is-Not-Enough100 reads

You have many, many hobbyists claiming in their reviews that you are a very special lady.  TER even rates you very high in appearance/performance.

 
Delisting is a business decision and should not be based on emotion.  How much business do you believe you attract because you have a TER profile?  How much business would you potentially lose if you delisted?  Clearly these should be your main business considerations.  If somehow you are affected emotionally beyond your ability to cope, then maybe you should find another business.

 
All service providers, regardless of their chosen field, must deal with their share of people who, for whatever reason, are not objective when they review a service.   It simply goes with the territory--sad but true.

You are absolutely right and you hit the nail on the head.

I feel like a lot of people think I’m just complaining about my reviews. I think my point got lost which means I probably didn’t say it very well.  

But you’re right. Thank you.

It seems the advice you’re getting from the reviewers here follows two paths.  First, there are those pointing out how highly reviewed you are and encouraging you not to let the occasional bad review bother you. Then there are those who come off as more critical and suggesting if reviews bother you, then you need to get out of the business completely.  The latter isn’t really true because you can always stay in the business, but as a delisted provider.

One monger noted,

 If somehow you are affected emotionally beyond your ability to cope, then maybe you should find another business.
That doesn’t make sense at all. If you find yourself in a situation with crappy trappings (bad reviews), then you always have the option of moving into a situation without the crappy trappings (delisting). Of course you have to weigh that against a possible (likely?) loss of business.  Which path most effects your quality of life? Which path finds you happiest?

You can get good advice here, but before making a final decision I think you’re best served also hearing from providers who have already delisted. They are easy enough to find on Twitter.

...I tend to look for trending agreements among them.

Do MOST of the reviews seem to be in major agreement about what's happening in session? Do MOST of the reviews agree about the level of service? Details about what's being provided?

If so, then I'll discount outlier reviews.

We all have off days, and not all providers/clients "click" to give the best situation.

Buena suerte!

hewhomustnotbesaid148 reads

I have been in this hobby a long time. The current bout of delisting is not new. I can appreciate that this is frustrating for you. I have a feeling that a lot of sensitivity has gone out the window after 2 years of Covid... we are seeing this throughout society, and also in reviews of all types. You can't let a single bad review bother you. The alternative is delisting, and I can guarantee that you will then see far less (likely near zero) new clients if you make this decision.  

I must admit that I generally do not see delisted ladies, unless I remember (or met) them from before. I recently made an exception and met with a lady who had recently delisted. While it was not a terrible experience, I now have a pretty good idea why clients wrote negative reviews that caused her to delist, so in the future I will not be seeing delisted ladies.  

Instead of being angry, maybe you should look within and see in there are any grains of truth that you might be able to improve/alleviate.

As far as yappy dogs go, I am right there with your recent client!  ;)

Apparently you haven't been around that long. Going back 20 years or so there were reviews that were brutal, yet funny.
I swear some the reviewers had to be Hollywood sitcom writer, funny but brutal.

RespectfulRobert134 reads

Many, many once prominent ladies delisted here and found great success generating new clients by other means i.e. social media platforms, other sites, etc.

And some that are not very active  that had not delisted just had a new review and their inbox activity increased significantly. One asked me to send her some VIP days to help her research clients and other providers due to the increased activity .
This site is still advertising and helps those who look like their pictures  and deliver as promised.

UnnamedOne115 reads

How in the heck would you know who has had great success or not, and especially, why or how or how many? Do you have some crystal ball or do you believe all you read on Twitter?

Many of those "greatly successful" escorts are merely virtue signalling and continue to struggle.  

Do you know who they are seeing? The same guys who are/have been here and other boards... merely using Twitter as an ad site and screening tool. Do you think some new market magically appeared for them? This includes you, me and many others who are both here and on Twitter.

The gals hated unfair reviews, review power games and board misogyny, but the really successful ones liked the way TER made their purses go "ching".

I'll state that many escorts are less financially well off being away from TER, albeit they have changed the power structure by demanding real ID and eschewing reviews.

I don’t know but you do?  

“I'll state that many escorts are less financially well off being away from TER, albeit they have changed the power structure by demanding real ID and eschewing reviews”.

Thanks for clearing that up.

UnnamedOne105 reads

I wrote that after reading a thread between several providers on Twitter that said exactly the same thing.  

They lamented that a few seem to be getting rich, while most are just working to pay bills.  

So yes, I was speaking from a position of having just heard it from a group of providers themselves.

As for the power structure, all you have to do is listen to the stories of the men here, who have had bad experiences and can not review nor have recourse because crazy chicks have his real info. And those crazies are outing guys every day on Twitter. Outing guys has become a big joke among escorts, no matter the damage they do to men's lives and livelihoods. It used to be reserved for the most dangerous and egregious, but now it has become a sport and joke for some women.

That is definitely a power imbalance.

A-freaking-men bro!

Posted By: UnnamedOne
Re: Hold on thar, son...

   
 As for the power structure, all you have to do is listen to the stories of the men here, who have had bad experiences and can not review nor have recourse because crazy chicks have his real info. And those crazies are outing guys every day on Twitter. Outing guys has become a big joke among escorts, no matter the damage they do to men's lives and livelihoods. It used to be reserved for the most dangerous and egregious, but now it has become a sport and joke for some women.  
   
 That is definitely a power imbalance.

providers on social media is that they talk amongst themselves publicly like their customers are in the next county and can't hear them.  Many a lady that I might have considered seeing have taken themselves out of the running for my hard-won dollars by saying things that expose how they truly feel about their customers.  Men come to this game for a fantasy, not for reality, and when the ladies on social media start getting a little to real, it turns a lot of us off from seeing them.  

 
Naturally, they want to project success, because all of us want to see the girls who are getting a lot of repeat customers, so you have to ask yourself is they anecdotal evidence of success from the person who it benefits really reliable, or is it all smoke and mirrors?   I'm often amused when I run across ladies bragging about their busy schedules and how success they are while offering a "special" before the end of the month to make sure the rent will be paid on time.  Lol

I wont tell any lady how to run their business, that's completely up to them and I'll respect their rules but I'm with the other guys here in saying you are off-base, maybe greatly so.

I am what could be considered a model client, I have done this a long time.

I do not send deposits, nor do I give personal information.  My rules, and they've worked quite well for me.  You can feel free to do your transactions in whatever way works for you.

Anyone that is delisted and not on TER is a strike against them.

Being part of the Twitter self reinforcing man bashing crowd is an even bigger flag and those two together are a gauranteed "not interested" for me.

I am exactly the client they would want and I will never see them because of the way they have constructed their business model.

The providers we are talking about can be openly dismissive, out right male bashing, on their social media platforms.  They will complain about time wasters and how difficult it is to deal with customer's and then refuse to do things that would make their life easier like having a skilled scheduler do the daily work, the daily work that makes them so dismissive of their clientele.

You do you, and good luck to you, but I think you are wrong on this particular point and I do believe providers are hurting themselves when they pursue this business model.

I agree and feel the same way as BigBoyPants. To put it simply, I don’t look at escorts on Twitter to begin with. If their only presence is on Twitter or Switter (does that still exist?), I’ll never know about them. Same if a provider delists here. I will simply assume they retired, and move on.

I also agree with Holy. I tend to ignore the one or two bad reviews if a provider has many positive reviews, but I will always check the bad reviewer’s other reviews as well to try to make sure.

hewhomustnotbesaid143 reads

Perhaps, but unless you are auditing her books, you also have no idea either.

I really don't get this. Some people think any dog is annoying. Some people, for example I know a couple in my family - think ANY pet is annoying regardless of how they actually behave.

 
You have to remind yourself that reviews are subjective point of view recaps. Some people have shorter fuses than others and some are annoyed by trifles.

 
I myself am good with dogs and all, but there was one dog with one of my regular providers. It never did anything wrong, but I always was scared I'm gonna step on it. And yes, while I didn't deduct any points from the girl - that would be absurd - part of me that always had to be on guard to not step on the little furball made the experience a tad worse. It wasnt a big deal, but it was worth mentioning in a review. Some provides have cats and some mongers are allergic to cats. Etc etc.

 
You have to remember reviews are COMPARATIVE. And that because some criticsm or praise was not given previously, doesn't mean it isn't an honest criticism. You aren't going to satisfy 100% of the people no matter who you are how you look and what your performance is. What you can do is attempt to take reviews as honest feedback and see if you can improve something they expressed criticism with. Maybe hide the dog in another oom where it cannot annoy the customer. Kissing more maybe. And so on. And if you feel these are unfair criticisms and you're doing your best and you can't strive any further up - just ignore them.

I love dogs! But I remember a visit to an incall long ago. I was concerned that her rather and seemingly protective large dog was going to bite me in the ass.  

hump your leg to completion and he will go take a nap while you enjoy the provider.  Problem solved.  Lol

I was more concerned that he would bite off the only bone I had.  ;)

a dog that was quiet and I didn't know was in the apartment come up behind me and lick my ass while I was fucking his owner.  I told her that her dog was licking my ass, and I hope I wasn't going to be charged for a double.  She started laughing so hard, the contractions pushed my dick out of her pussy and we had to wait until she regained her composure and start over.

Personally, if I look through a lady's reviews and I see one that's so-so once in a while then I ignore those if her others look like yours and are outstanding.  

I regularly see a gal who gets solid 8's and 9's for performance and 9's and 10's for looks and she recently stressed out over some schmuck who gave her 6's. I told her not to worry about the one "bad" review but she said her average dropped a few tenths of a point. LOL. For the vast majority of us that one so-so review is a non-issue.

In this business?

 
You can't please everyone,
     So, you please yourself!

money to see a provider do . . . . they please themselves.   Lol

Would you agree that a woman needs to have a special thick skin in this business then?  Why do you suppose that might be?

having a "thick skin" as it is about understanding that reviews are not personal and they are not about you as a person.  They are about the fantasy personna you create during a session.  I have found that the providers I have become friends with in real life are often markedly different than they are when working in their professional capacity.  The woman men are reviewing is the one you CREATE to fulfill their fantasies.  not the one that YOU see in the mirror at home.  In other words, there are TWO versions of you, the real one and the fake one.  The fake one is getting the reviews, so why care about they say because it's not the real you?

Very nicely put.  That's a persepective I hadn't thought of.

Hard as it may be, it seems that some compartmentalization is required here.

Moreover, it might be helpful to remember some of these reviewers are writing about themselves as much as they're writing about the lady.

Steve_Trevor128 reads

actors should never get upset by a negative review, because their “fake” persona was reviewed.  So why should they care?  And I suppose they shouldn’t get too pleased about positive reviews of their “fake” persona either.

 
Also, the women that men review ARE the same people they see in the mirror at home—from an appearance standpoint.  And appearance is a major aspect of TER reviews.  It’s that (very real) appearance that’s being reviewed.

in the mirror in the morning is before the theatrical makeup goes on that turns them into a fantasy girl.   So, it's NOT the same person appearance-wise that the customer sees.  Heavy makeup is intended to hide the real person and substitute the fake person in her place?  I have dated a ton of providers OTC on the outside, and they do not present themselves the same way they do at a session as far as appearance.  Even if they do apply makeup for a real-life date, it's much more subdued, but you wouldn't know that if you haven't done it, so I'll give you a pass on your naivete.  If you're paying for their time on the outside date, then it's still a session, and you will get the fantasy girl look. That's what the reviewers review when it comes to appearance, because the session is the only place they saw them.  

 
Your actor example is a false equivalency, because the fake persona is not being reviewed, the actor, which has played other roles and given real life interviews, is being reviewed on how well he portrayed the fake persona in a particular role, which is NOT the only role he has ever played.  Since it's unlikely you will meet a provider who you also have seen in real life or while she was portraying other fake roles, as a customer you are ONLY seeing them as the fantasy girl, so while you KNOW it's fake because of the nature of the business, you have nothing to compare it to, but SHE does.  She knows who she is in real life when it's NOT "Showtime."   You should try to meet some provider-friends in real life.  You will have a better understanding of the mindset of the ones that are at peace with bad reviews and don't take them personally.

Steve_Trevor94 reads

You never said above that the provider was looking in the mirror sans makeup. (Not so) nice dodge.

 
You’re also assuming every provider wears “heavy makeup”.  They do not, in my experience over many years.

 
You’re also assuming every provider puts on a fake persona.  Not every one does, nor to the same degree.  But for those who do, reviewers judge  them on how well they portray that fake persona.

 
And you’re assuming I’ve never interacted with women who are providers outside of their provider jobs.  I have.  

 
One thing is clear: you love to make assumptions about how other people think and act.

keep reading the sentence.  It says "in the morning."  Unless they are doing an overnight paid session, the providers I know remove their makeup before they go to bed and then . . . . . . . . . wait for it . . . . . . . . they are not wearing makeup in the morning!!  Was surprised to hear you couldn't connect the dots yourself when I led with that.  My point was that they wear MORE makeup while working than they do when they are not working.  Of course it will vary from girl to girl, but the constant is that it will be more while working.  So the word, "heavy" is fluid, and relative to the makeup each girl wears (if any) when they are NOT working.   Are you really this dense in real life, or is it just your alias?  Lol

Steve_Trevor114 reads

You said: “… not the one that YOU see in the mirror at home.“

 
That’s what I was referring to when I said “above”.  Nothing said about “in the morning.”  But even so, if you’re claiming women don’t put on makeup before noon, AND providers never see clients in the morning, AND you know for sure that providers wear more makeup when working than any other time… you don’t know providers, or women in general, very well.

 
Talking about dense.  Sheesh.

Too say “in the morning” when I first brought it up. You’re probably reading the wrong post. I’m not saying any of the things you are speculating about.  I said what I said, and nothing more. Is English not your native language?  Now you’re just embarrassing yourself by saying I did not say “in the morning” when everyone else sees it.  It was a qualified statement which I sat and by.

Cdl loves to cling to non-important bullshit. So do I lol  I do know a fellow argumentative fuck when I see it.  

 
You should ask him about being "in crack", seems like he's familiar with the spot.

Steve_Trevor105 reads

that CDL will swear up and down about what he said, yet his posts are there to let us know he’s living in some alternate universe where people can’t read what he posted.  Then he insults others because they had the audacity to call him on his BS.  But I’ll give him credit for being consistent… even though he’s consistently wrong.  

that you are not smart enough to find it on THIS thread.  It's at the very beginning starting with the headline.  You are such a moron.

Steve_Trevor106 reads

“A man hopelessly lost… in the Twilight Zone.”

 
I have a genuine question for you: can you follow a thread?  It appears not, since you can’t see that in your post I linked to you said only “in the morning”, nothing about just getting out of bed with no makeup.  Only after I pointed that out, you stammered your BS (in the post you linked to) about all providers wearing more makeup on the job than other times and never wearing any makeup until after noon.  

 
Now I’ll pull one of your favorite tricks:  go ahead and have the last say on this, since you love doing it.  😏

You base your whole point on what I did NOT say in the first post, then when I further clarified it, you still doubled down.  That's what trolls do.  You like to say how much experience you have to know this biz, but you have no reviews under your alias, a common ploy here that lurkers use to hide their own lack of experience.  Why are you hiding?  Providers put their makeup on before the first customer of the day, and that could be anytime.  It could be an hour after they got up with no make-up on, or it could be six hours.  That was the point that you wanted to ignore by doing your little tap dance.  It's rare to see this kind of intellectual dishonesty here except among the trolls.  Glad you have outed yourself.  Now others know to ignore your bullshit rantings. If you want to have cred here, how about a few reviews under this alias so we know you are a real monger and some bullshit lurker.  You like to point out what we DON'T know, and we know nothing about whether you have seen even one provider.  The kind of shit you post is generalized stuff you can get from reading TER boards.  It doesn't establish that you have ANY personal experience whatsoever.

I would say that if you are going to be evaluated, you will have some people that like you and some people that don't!
Pretty simple!

 

When you ask for an evaluation, you need to be ready to not let it bother you and move on! That would be thick skin!

 

If you are going to worry every time you hear something about you that you don't like, thin skin, then you will drive yourself crazy over someone that you shouldn't think twice about!

 
IMO, you are on front street in this biz!

Thanks for all of the feedback.  Most of what you guys said was wise, true, and respectfully written.  

I think people hear me complaining about my reviews and my other points have gotten lost.  

-  I’m not bashing men or my clients!  I love my job and I love the guys I see.  When I write this, I’m not writing it with my clients in mind, I’m thinking about the 20% of the people who are so insensitive in the things that they say on TER.

-I said I feel like complaining about my reviews but I don’t do it. I was only sharing my story to bring awareness to what is partly the reason why ladies are leaving and why I’m considering it also.  

-  I’m NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT MY REVIEWS which have been  predominantly nice. When I get a reference I check first On TER so I’ve read a lot of reviews for other people. I’ve always been a VIP member.  I’ve read reviews that are horrible!!!  (Doesn’t everybody see this)? Checking references is how I have discovered so many ladies delisted. And I have participated in Twitter conversations in which I am the only one still on TER!  

-  I’m not just talking about reviews, either.  You see it on the board’s also. It seems like a lot of people On TER (maybe 15-20%) Are disproportionately mean and vulgar.

-  Good and bad people are everywhere, that’s true. But is the disrespect towards women excessively common On TER?  It seems like it. And this is the point of my post. I think that because we are escorts a lot of men think that they can talk to us and about us like we are “whores”.  If you guys who have seen us and know us havent learned that we are just LADIES, and regular people, how can we ever hope for society to embrace SWs as normal and deserving of respect?

Yes, I am overly sensitive, naive and idealistic, I already know that!  And yes, I agree that it’s a mistake to get too real on the boards.  That’s no fun. Sorry.  We have to deal with discrimination from the rest of the world (SO MUCH!), but unfortunately I think we see it here, too, from many of the men on TER.  

Thanks for clarifying.  I picked up on your intent in your first post, but it was kind of vague.  

I haven't written a ton of reviews, partly because I have a hard time bringing myself to write a bad review.  I hate bashing someone.  But the main reason I seldom write reviews is I hate to provide "the juicy details".  I don't like to kiss and tell.  It seems like bragging to some degree and also seems degrading to point out every detail about the provider.  After writing a couple reviews years ago it dawned on me that this could be construed as incriminating evidence.  So I quit writing.  But I do read them as a VIP member.

I could never understand some of the disrespectful reviews I've read.  It is one thing for a bad review to be short and to the point, end with ymmv, and let the rating numbers tell the story.  But it seem wrong to write a lengthy description detailing every flaw of the provider's appearance, performance, and even the place of business.  As a retired merchant seaman that has been to brothels all over the planet, I learned long ago that everyone's "mileage may very."    

Sex workers provide a much needed service.  Whether it is providing relief to a sailor that just spent 30 days onboard a ship with nothing but a bunch of sweaty guys or providing something different as a "spice of life" for a married dude, it is a valiant service.  The bottom line is we should all be respectful of the providers.  The rip-off are of a different class.  Let us try not to degrade our ASP's to the rip-off class.

First of all, much respect for not throwing anyone under the bus.  

From my perspective, it's easy.  Respect goes both ways. If I see providers treating mongers and their opinions with disdain, then I also respond to them accordingly. Believe it or not, some mongers also dislike being treated as dirty ugly atm Johns. In your case, it doesn't seem to be the case.

 
This is a tough job and I'm sure I wouldn't be able to do it. It's great that you do like the job and your clients. And I believe you - like I've said, unlike others you didn't blame your clients and that earns respect from me.

 
Reviews can be harsh,even if they're true. Yes, your body, genetalia, skills are under a microscope. That can be tough and I understand some ladies delisting because of that. In other businesses it's also tough as your work is thoroughly judged, but this biz can be much more personal and criticisms could hit much closer than you'd like. I'm not going to pretend I understand the full situation because as a man and a buyer it's quite different and theres no way for me to ever fully put myself in your shoes.

 
Once again, it's very simple to me. If you're an honest provider, like and protect your clients, treat them with respect, and talk about them respectfully and are competent at the job you do(at the end of the day, it's a really tough job but you are evaluated for your job)  I doubt many people will be mean to you. I certainly will not ever be. You may receive a harsh review or an annoyed review here and there, but that's what happens when you or your biz are reviewed.and yes a review might include in depth discussions of how you ride or how shallow your vagina is, and how deep you give head. Vulgar? Depends imo. Many providers pride themselves on their skills, and making my eyes roll back is generally a good thing in my book. Lol.  

What may happen is that some providers when they come out of their comfort zone or a zone where theyre universally praised, are kinda met with more critical environment and they can't handle it. I'm not here to say they should or should not handle it,but for many it may be somewhat of a shock. I'd imagine being ready for critical evaluation is important.  

 
One more time, I think your job is tough, very demanding and I cannot wait for it to be legalized so you (like us) don't get prosecuted and are able to engage in consensual sexual activities for money legally. Just like any two or more consenting adults should, imo.

 
I thank you for everything you do and one more time, when people love doing their job, you can see it. Some of my best sessions were with women who loved their job.  

Cheers
R

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Thanks!  

You made such a valid and important point!  I have also seen how the ladies talk about the men. You’re absolutely right and I didn’t even think about that when I made my post. And how could I have forgotten?

When I see the guys say something negative (horrible sometimes) about providers, I think about the other ladies that I worked with with who try so hard to be good providers, and I think about myself.  But I forgot to consider all of the very hateful talk coming from a lot of providers that I’ve seen on Twitter and on the boards as well.

Thank you for reminding me about this.  You are absolutely right!

I cannot add much in general terms that is any better said or suggested than what has been posted thus far.

Perhaps I should write this in a P.M, however I think it worth putting a word out specific to your being out there.

I have seen you several times over the years, and am delighted you have moved to the Midwest.  Pay little attention to those that review you as, what I call, a drive by client.  A discriminating and thoughtful man can see through the B.S. quickly.  If we were just meeting I would have put more weight on the quality of the reviewer, who they have reviewed before, and negate out lying reviews.  If that makes sense.  Being as experienced as you are, with the number of reviews you have, pay no attention to the occasional idiots out there.

Regarding you in particular.  In my view you are a very special person who goes way out of her way to make a man, or at least me, feel wanted, welcome, and desired.  Your inner and outer beauty is a gift which I am glad you share with us men.  I have never felt disappointed, neglected, or any other negative feeling during our times together.  

Chin up and remember there are many others who feel the same way about you.    

Finally, your dogs are wonderful creatures.

Thank you so much for offering some public support. I appreciate it. I enjoy my private time with you so much!  I hope we will have a chance to do it again soon.

Xoxo

I sure agree that if we get a review we should be able to reply a feedback as well.  A guy can review and get away with what they say. I once tried telling customer service that I never saw this guy " Frank". They won't take his review  off

John_Laroche110 reads

Yep, harsh review,  but how do you KNOW that you never met him?

Bc he said he write a review and he didn't promise his time.  I said I had given up my Airbnb he was late.  He said you see a nice review.  Not even a week a cut and paste review was posted

No, she didn’t see Frank. They tried to meet up, timing didn’t work out, Frank wrote a fake review.

Thanks for translating.

 
I took a look at this frank guy reviews.

 
First, unless he copy pasted all of his reviews from someone else, I doubt he copied them. All his reviews have exact same style, diction, capitalization and so on. Undoubtedly if his other reviews are his, so is this one.

 
Second, besides his one main negative, that review had a lot of positive to say. He said performance was very good and as advertised.

 
About the only thing that seems off in the review is a somewhat lower grade for performance than his review would indicate. And even tho he said her looks were not exactly up to his standards, he said she is still decent looking (as evidenced by him saying he'd pick her up from a bar)

Guys just remember some this provider do have family to feed. If you didn't like the woman when you get in the door. You can leave than stay the entire date than complain.  

brownjack109 reads

I won't repeat some of the excellent observations that have come before.  But fwiw, my $0.02...

- You have every reason to expect respect.  And, I agree, there are always "good" ways, to say "bad" things.

- On de-listing, I personally will not see a provider who does not have reviews here.  Like a client for any business, I want to be sure that what is advertised, is what I am getting.

- I second Diablo's advice about asking clients what three things they need.  My guess is that some clients don't really know what they want.  Or, are too embarrassed to state it.  I was that guy not too long ago (still am to some extent).

- In the age of social media (which TER is), you are going to get trolls.  People who are generally unhappy.  Or, who do not yet know themselves well enough to tell you what they need.  Yes, their unhappiness can affect your business.  But, it is the same risk that every business faces.

- You know that you are better than a handful of poor reviews.  Discerning gentleman will see the bad reviews for what they are and take them with a grain of salt.

- And finally, I appreciate you being honest about your feelings.  I'm constantly surprised that in such an intimate business, where we trust each other with deeply personal details, people are hesitant to demonstrate human emotions.

Could hardly agree more. Just because we're on a fuck board doesn't mean we can't be humane.  

And yes, there will always be assholes who don't get that.

NumNumMan110 reads

This is a fascinating topic. I have very strong opinions that may take the conversation in a different direction.  

A woman who visits my city regularly has delisted under different names multiple times due to bad reviews. She threatened me personally and tried to blackmail me on a visit last year. How in the world do I let my fellow hobbyists know of her scams?  

A cash and dash girl (as I found out) from a now defunct Russian agency recently visited. My mistake was visiting based on recognizing her former photos as being form that agency. She had a one time use phone, new name and no reviews.  TOFTT. How do I get the word out?

I have been doing this for 10 years and had three blackmail attempts in the past year after giving bad reviews. This is nuts as some girls are much more aggressive than ever. Thank goodness I have some awesome regulars. They just need to visit more often.  

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