Most of us would agree that the earlier post was abusive, at the least. And maybe criminal, in the extreme(at least Karmic-ly).
But I used to have a mistress, half-Korean/half-caucasion (downright smokin'), who was so tight that when we fucked she would push with her hands on my hips or chest; in a not too deep sort of signal. But her legs would be pulling me as deep and far as I could go. She would alternate between this push and pull, while her face would have a mixture of pain/pure bliss going that was so hot that I lose a nut just thinking about it. Priceless memories shared into the Infinite Consciousness.
I realize that I had the luxury of these encounters because this angel was pretty much just seeing me, or the occasional "friend/boyfriend" fuck. But in any case, low volume.
Now granted a provider is running a business and sees multiple clients on a regular basis. So she has to keep her equipment in tip-top form or she's closed for business like a town running away from Mother Nature.
So my long windedness aside; At what point do you as a client or provider draw the line......?
It's really not that fine of a line in my book. I don't think the line is defined by a particular act or length of a particular activity. I think a mutual understanding of what both parties expect is critical. The lunatic posting below is an extreme example but I know girls who will (and should) put guys on their do not see list simply for being too graby or forceful about particular activities that may not be available. As customers we need to remember that we are paying a woman to spend time with us, not renting a sex robot. I see mutual satisfaction as the goal. My current favorite told me on during our first appointment that she was there for her pleasure as much as mine and our many meetings since then have born that out. We never discussed any rules, we just started going to town with the agreement that if either of us went too far the other would say so with no repercussions. For me the key is to remember that, money aside, this is a woman who has agreed to be with you and she deserves to be treated with kindness, courtesy and respect at all times.
Very simply when it starts to be uncomfortable /painful is when it stops. I will change activity but will not endure pain at any price. I know of ladies that have refused to see clients on account of the "robopussy" myth.
The myth is that a woman in "this " business should be able to handle anything a client can throw at them or they shouldn't be in the business in the first place.
We have focused on the physical aspects of abuse. And there is the potential for that to be significant and to take a significant toll on the provider... but there is also the emotional toll... abuse of a provider may also be taken to mean the clingy hobbiest... the stalker... the must see you and you must see only me... hobbiest... were I a provider - those would scare me as much or possibly more than the pile driver hard core hobbiest... thoughts?
I start every session by saying to the lady, if I do anything that makes you uncomfortable, please say so and I will stop. I want to treat you with absolute respect. I have never had an issue.
These aren't pieces of meat, they are people. Simple, open communication makes it better for everyone.
The provider asked me if I would like to do Greek. I had never done it, so I said sure.
We put on the cover and used a lot of lube and I inserted and it seemed very nice except that after a few seconds she started screaming "You're killing me." So I took it out. She then looked at me funny and said, "What's the matter, didn't you like it?"
I said lets do something else and I never saw her again.
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