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Right. Nothing wrong with different rates in different places.
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Ms. January of TER?

Seems our infamous Ms. January had her pal reallyfuckingoldted shlling to garner enough likes to win that asinine popularity contest.

I can't wait to see who Ms. February will be  LOL

It would only be appropriate to have the new Corrine Lisset as Ms. February  :D

How about it oldted...get the shilling going for her now

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When I asked him why he didn't vote , he said he'd never seen  a politician worth voting for .  :-D

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Ms. January of TER?  
   
 Seems our infamous Ms. January had her pal reallyfuckingoldted shlling to garner enough likes to win that asinine popularity contest.  
   
 I can't wait to see who Ms. February will be  LOL  
   
 It would only be appropriate to have the new Corrine Lisset as Ms. February  :D  
   
 How about it oldted...get the shilling going for her now?  
   
 

TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 2134 reads
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Voting on TER is like little kids voting for American Idol.
I don't even bather with that stupid shit.
I'm surprised you even care.

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Follow the link pal (I included it in the OP)...seems like she got deluded that she's a "hottie" and can double her rates while using a second stage name.  Not bad for a matronly hooker who's best years were 20+ years ago.

Not too dissimilar than the hookers who believe the fake 10/10's should equate to double rates.  Yep...too many mangina boys who are shilling for these gals as well.  

Just another example of how some have learned to manipulate these boards for their personal gains.  And if they aren't "called out"...then poor saps like YOU may end up paying double for something.  And then you'll be crying here about why no one shed any light on this scam.

Unless you're one of JLS's lackeys and she promised to make it up to you  LOL
Posted By: TheHoundOfCullin
Voting on TER is like little kids voting for American Idol.  
 I don't even bather with that stupid shit.  
 I'm surprised you even care.

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Am I a poor sap?
That sucks.

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At $ 1k expecting to see this really hot gal open the door...and then it's just JLS.  And you know (or would know) that she's a third of that price on her current TER page and website.

I guess it would be a B&S...would you pay her or simply turn around and report this on the boards?

Problem is many dudes would pay the bill...and then bitch about it through back channel.  

There are plenty of gals who use multiple stage names...but generally it's for different types of services with the names...ie GFE vs. BDSM vs. FBSM.  That's not what this gal is doing...which is simply wrong IMHO.

But she'll come on these boards and babble that she's the most righteous hooker in the world...and she's simply another hooker who has extreme narcissism.  Fortunately there are mongers who patrol this world we play in (thanks ADJ) and make the rest of the "boys" aware of the frauds that perpetrate this world.
Posted By: TheHoundOfCullin
Am I a poor sap?  
 That sucks..  
 

Hello.Duchess See my TER Reviews 1846 reads
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You are f*cking evil. That's right. I said it.  

You don't give a DAMN whether some hobbyist ends up paying for double for something.  You don't give a DAMN about anyone on this board. Please don't even try to say you're acting in the best interests of the board with these mean-spirited and uncalled for posts.

You LIVE to put people down - especially women - and why? Because that is the only way you feel good about yourself?  Because you have some kind of complex?  Because you get off on it?  Who knows and who cares?  Any possible motivation you have for your behavior can only be twisted. The thing is this:

We ALL see through you.  And no one in his or her right mind believes in you or what you have to say.  

You're pathetic, but I don't feel sorry for you. Only revolted. You add absolutely nothing to the discussion on the boards but pure acid.

Reflect on your life and your words, dude. Karma is a b*tch.

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I mentioned earlier about the whole Honda/Acura thing, and there is GM/Chevy/Daewoo thing about re-badging autos.  Chrysler vs Plymouth vs Dodge?  Lived there in that world for way too many years.   How about beer made by the multi-national conglomerates?  Is there much of a difference between them when you deal with the million-bbl beverages?  

My thought is if you fail to fully research any purchase you make, then it's not up to anyone else to babysit you thru the process.   If she can successfully re-brand different product lines with different price points, then God bless her.  If you have an inside track to the market, then that makes you a better consumer.  
Take advantage of the knowledge you have to leverage the opportunities that present themselves and that makes you better than the other 95% out there.  Live off the margins, make profit and move forward

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Posted By: Dave76015

   
 My thought is if you fail to fully research any purchase you make, then it's not up to anyone else to babysit you thru the process.    
   
 
That's the whole point of this website.  To share information on a product that has a price point of $ 350 and the exact same product that is now priced at $ 1k.

Would you have known had you not read these threads?

Better yet...wouldn't you have been really pissed to find out after you got taken for $ 650 additional for the exact same thing you could have had at $ 350?  I suspect most people would be pissed.  Not oldted...or others who are going to bat for her.  But then they'll not be paying her even $ 350 to shill for her.

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Here is the problem that I have with that....I find the practice highly deceptive when you are essentially marketing same service - in this case GFE. If you want to market to different segments of the society at different price points, there are other ways of doing that...But creating an entirely different persona when the first one is already there....c'mon you gotta be kidding me. At least she can come clean now that she has been caught...

Imagine client going and paying the highly inflated rates for Corrine and then a month later showing up on Julia's doorstep to realize that she was available for 67% lower price...

BTW, if someone wants to market different services i.e. BDSM vs GFE under two different persona, that's fine in my books...

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even wth the cold hard truth staring her in the face, she has the nerve to still try and deny its her. many providers cater to different markets. she stold that idea from one of them yet was too dumb to pull it off. arent they supposed to use fake pics when they create another persona?  what f that guy drives 4 hours to see corinne thinnking its his new high end special girl, just to find out it was the same ass he had a year ago for a third less. would you not be pissed that you wasted time and gas money and were mislead?  would you pay the new fee for a girl you just paid 350 to even though she conned you into driving that time? thats the issue not that she has two personas. i would be super pissed if i just spent all that tme and money on a new site and vip ad and someone busted me before i even got out the gate. but, thats what shady gets ya. now her brand is shot but if she really beleved she could make enough money at 1k, she would have killed off JLS from the get. she knows she is not going to be able to survive on that rate because there are not that many dumb men out there in NC so she had to keep the cheaper persona to look high end with the other one but still charge by the hour so she could make any money.its pretentious and sneaky and dj busted her. had she not talked so much shit and lied for years on end, this probably would not be all that big of a deal.she also said she has never tried to market herself as low volume. that's a crock of shit. she blabbed about only seeing one guy a day for years. now its as many as she can take in 48 hours. at one time she had four busnesses but never stopped posting on ter. too much drama to even keep up with.

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oh...the power.....

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Ms. January of TER?  
   
 Seems our infamous Ms. January had her pal reallyfuckingoldted shlling to garner enough likes to win that asinine popularity contest.  
   
 I can't wait to see who Ms. February will be  LOL  
   
 It would only be appropriate to have the new Corrine Lisset as Ms. February  :D  
   
 How about it oldted...get the shilling going for her now?  
   
 

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And while we're all up in arms about different pricing schemes, we'll have to  add just about every online retailer in the world, (selling anything), to the list of offenders.  

(and, BTW, I have no idea, nor do I even remotely care whether JLS has, or has not, posted different rates).

 
She has to admit she's been caught?....lol...ok

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If you went to an auction and bought a Van Gogh for 12 million and then found out that a few years back you could've bought it for 6 million would you fell... Pissed...? Like a sap...? Like who's shilling for this painting?

And if you'd bought the same painting in 1885 you might've gotten it a couple of guilders.

Recognition often affects price.

But, of course, it might not be like fine art at all, but more like a pastrami sandwich.

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Yep...that's what I'm looking to do.

How about sending me triple my usual fee at my other name...and get the same treatment.

Let us know when you set up your next site and are as stupid as JLS in presenting it.

 
Posted By: Hello.Duchess
You are f*cking evil. That's right. I said it.    
   
 You don't give a DAMN whether some hobbyist ends up paying for double for something.  You don't give a DAMN about anyone on this board. Please don't even try to say you're acting in the best interests of the board with these mean-spirited and uncalled for posts.  
   
 You LIVE to put people down - especially women - and why? Because that is the only way you feel good about yourself?  Because you have some kind of complex?  Because you get off on it?  Who knows and who cares?  Any possible motivation you have for your behavior can only be twisted. The thing is this:  
   
 We ALL see through you.  And no one in his or her right mind believes in you or what you have to say.  
   
 You're pathetic, but I don't feel sorry for you. Only revolted. You add absolutely nothing to the discussion on the boards but pure acid.  
   
 Reflect on your life and your words, dude. Karma is a b*tch.

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 2122 reads
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inherently engaging in activity that's illegal in the first place.  

Yeah...I know...I know escorting is legal, paying for sex is illegal...but we all know what we are here for...

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would you say the same thing if a provider had called her out, because dozen have for years. many of the nc women have seen what she is capable of and not this immature stuff, but serious stuff. he is not outing her real info. he is making the truth be known about her personas that are fake anyway. and it would have come out soon enough anwyay. why so upset about a fraud? do you condone this type of stuff? she's set for life. this won't hurt her at all. she does not have to advertise. she has enough regulars and friends from dc and nc to not have to use eros.

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if the product or service is illegal?

'Cause I bought a pair of boots last week. And, since they were on the more expensive side of any pair of shoes I would normally buy, I researched the hell out of them before actually pulling the trigger.  

Turns out, I can buy the VERY SAME pair of boots for several different prices.  

huh.

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And sharing information here shouldn't be allowed.

Heck, the realities and truisms may not be good for a hookers business!
Posted By: soobvious
would you say the same thing if a provider had called her out, because dozen have for years. many of the nc women have seen what she is capable of and not this immature stuff, but serious stuff. he is not outing her real info. he is making the truth be known about her personas that are fake anyway. and it would have come out soon enough anwyay. why so upset about a fraud? do you condone this type of stuff? she's set for life. this won't hurt her at all. she does not have to advertise. she has enough regulars and friends from dc and nc to not have to use eros.

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And there's nothing wrong with letting the johns know that a gal is doing so.

It's a free market here...maybe some morons would rather pay $ 1k vs. $ 350.

I'm sure you would rather pay the $ 1k  LOL
Posted By: hotplants
if the product or service is illegal?  
   
 'Cause I bought a pair of boots last week. And, since they were on the more expensive side of any pair of shoes I would normally buy, I researched the hell out of them before actually pulling the trigger.  
   
 Turns out, I can buy the VERY SAME pair of boots for several different prices.  
   
 huh.

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First of all she didn't just post different rates. She created a whole new persona.. Hookers, a lot of times, in fact most of the times, have different rates for different cities..That's perfectly OK because of cost of doing business in different cities.  

And I just was "this" short of using the word criminal at the risk of sounding asinine, since we are talking about an illegal activity to begin with...lol..

As far as your case...As long as the shoe is not packaged as a different brand (essentially what JLS did), nothing wrong with selling it at different prices through various channels. Just my opinion though.

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welcome to the world. But that's not how you started this thread, is it?

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That changes the way I think about the Escort.

I always wanted to think these girls were fair...
Every girl I meet tells me they are so enlightened, that they would never think of such a thing..
Gouging their rates, or stealing from their clients...

I just hate to think of that shit. I prefer hot tubs, and nice tile. :)

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 2183 reads
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You're right. And I'm sorry to have to say it but I've seen it myself.  

If you dish smelly shit in secret, ya gotta be able to take the smelly diarrhea in public.

And on we go until the same ole threads pop up. Don't like to see peeps go through public scrunity, but sometimes it's a good lesson for those who might take on similar cut throat business strategies.  

Let me say the whole 'charging double under a different name' doesn't get to me. Sorry to say, I just don't give a shit about that whole thing. It's just bothersome to see ladies standing up for someone who can't be trusted with even the smallest of information. You get on her bad side, you're pretty much ostracized from the communities they hold by the balls.

-- Modified on 2/22/2014 9:54:54 PM

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Try living in the richest part of town and asking for a quote on your heating and air conditioning. Been there done that. Cheap ass apartment, but if they think they can get it, damn straight they will.  

Economics 101. Don't say it doesn't happen in other businesses lol. It does. The smart consumer, however, will find a way into the lower price point.  

In this case, I'd just worry about booking and not being cancelled for an appt that'll bring in the bigger bucks. I think that's the only risk a guy would be taking here booking the $350 appt.  

I'm wondering if this is an attempt at testing out a different price point. I did it under my name, but I haven't gotten myself into a high-price lifestyle. I can see why one would try it out under a different name.

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Neither would I or most sane people.  

Hence the real value in a board like this.  Exposes a gal who's trying to usurp protocol that most gals would never do.

You'll notice on other threads that JLS mocks the hard working and honest women here.  Now she's been caught with her hand in the cookie jar.
Posted By: hotplants
welcome to the world. But that's not how you started this thread, is it?

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that both websites, presenting different personas', are the same woman...and that 'anyone' can see the obvious connection....then none of you have anything to worry about.  

OTOH, If someone can't see the diff, then so what? What he saw prompted him to book. I'd call that effective marketing.

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Using a new name is a B&S to many observers.

I know we agree in that, unless paying triple for the same item across the street is OK with you.

I'd prefer to pay the lowest price price for the same product.  As do most of my pals.

If a gal is going to increase her price nearly threefold, beat to be upfront about it.  Or assholes like me will call you out on it.
Posted By: Courtney.ova
Try living in the richest part of town and asking for a quote on your heating and air conditioning. Been there done that. Cheap ass apartment, but if they think they can get it, damn straight they will.  
   
 Economics 101. Don't say it doesn't happen in other businesses lol. It does. The smart consumer, however, will find a way into the lower price point.  
   
 In this case, I'd just worry about booking and not being cancelled for an appt that'll bring in the bigger bucks. I think that's the only risk a guy would be taking here booking the $350 appt.  
   
 I'm wondering if this is an attempt at testing out a different price point. I did it under my name, and admit it didn't work so well, so I can see why one would try it out under a different name.  
   
 At this point, however, there's room to play around bc...  
   
 To be continued...

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or is brought to his attention by other sources...

Just because you don't get "caught" doesn't mean you didn't commit the crime.... (excuse the word crime...)

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 1995 reads
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All I know is that I love JLS.

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Until the John realizes that he got shnookered.  Sol guys may get really really really pisses at that B&S tactic.  So for any hooker that may be a short term gain, and hopefully doesn't run into the John that can't take a joke!

Posted By: hotplants
that both websites, presenting different personas', are the same woman...and that 'anyone' can see the obvious connection....then none of you have anything to worry about.  
   
 OTOH, If someone can't see the diff, then so what? What he saw prompted him to book. I'd call that effective marketing.

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Or so I hear  ;)

Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
All I know is that I love JLS.

hotplants 1829 reads
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for  reason to wrap yourself around the axil....lol...

Usurping protocol? Mocking the hard working honest working women here?  

Try a mirror

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Can't help you with the former, but if its latter then just come back tomorrow and re-read it..

Ain't that hard..  

Careful though....Don't want to be guilty by association, do we?

Sorry your bubble has been busted and your idol is getting thrashed left, right, and center on various boards....

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 1949 reads
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But sometimes the sting of being back channeled about by one of the "sistas" isn't easy to forget.

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Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
Can't help you with the former, but if its latter then just come back tomorrow and re-read it..  
   
 Ain't that hard..  
   
 Careful though....Don't want to be guilty by association, do we?  
   
 Sorry your bubble has been busted and your idol is getting thrashed left, right, and center on various boards....
She's not my idol, HTG is. :)

I guess I get what's going on, I'm just confused as to what the problem is other than the rate differential.  

But then again, I don't really care.

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:D

I guess $3,000 now. Lol.

-- Modified on 2/22/2014 11:04:34 PM

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creating a whole different persona, when the original persona is still there, and market yourself as 10 yrs younger, and as a brand new pussy at 67% premium over old rates..then you have rendered me speechless...

If you don't care, you probably should !!! That way you don't make the same mistake yourself Inadvertently or purposely....


-- Modified on 2/22/2014 11:24:06 PM

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Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
creating a whole different persona, when the original persona is still there, and market yourself as 10 yrs younger, and as a brand new pussy at 67% premium over old rates..then you have rendered me speechless...  
   
 If you don't care, you probably should !!! That way you don't make the same mistake again... Inadvertently or purposely....

-- Modified on 2/22/2014 11:20:33 PM
I guess I just don't worry about what other people do.  

And I don't know what "mistake" you're referring to. Or why you're getting so combative towards me. I'm not trying to take sides here so just take it easy, man.

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I see its 11:35 EST. If you are drunk or buzzed come back later and re-read it. If you still don't get it, we have different value systems..  :D.

You can learn two ways..Good example and Bad example.. This was latter..  

Most guys will find her approach to marketing somewhere from extremely sneaky, dishonest to downright criminal...

And the reason why I said "you" should care was because you are marketing yourself to guys... You was meant as much in 2nd person, as in Universal Tense..


-- Modified on 2/22/2014 11:54:47 PM

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Simply bringing to the attention of anyone interested in knowing that a gal is presenting conflicting rates under different stage names...with the exact same services.  

Many gals have multiple stage names for different services or in different areas.  JLS has done none of that and simply is doing a B&S on guys who may see her under her newest stage name.

The risk is that one day some guy will see the B&S and not take kindly to it.  It's her problem when that day happens.  At a minimum guys will (and already are) back channel on this deception.
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
 
   
Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
creating a whole different persona, when the original persona is still there, and market yourself as 10 yrs younger, and as a brand new pussy at 67% premium over old rates..then you have rendered me speechless...  
     
  If you don't care, you probably should !!! That way you don't make the same mistake again... Inadvertently or purposely....  
   
 -- Modified on 2/22/2014 11:20:33 PM
   
 I guess I just don't worry about what other people do.  
   
 And I don't know what "mistake" you're referring to. Or why you're getting so combative towards me. I'm not trying to take sides here so just take it easy, man.

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It just seems like there's a lot of jumping to conclusions going on here. But whatever. Like I said, I just don't care enough. Even though Curly thinks that my apathy means I'll follow suit.  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Simply bringing to the attention of anyone interested in knowing that a gal is presenting conflicting rates under different stage names...with the exact same services.    
   
 Many gals have multiple stage names for different services or in different areas.  JLS has done none of that and simply is doing a B&S on guys who may see her under her newest stage name.  
   
 The risk is that one day some guy will see the B&S and not take kindly to it.  It's her problem when that day happens.  At a minimum guys will (and already are) back channel on this deception.  
   
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
 
     
Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
creating a whole different persona, when the original persona is still there, and market yourself as 10 yrs younger, and as a brand new pussy at 67% premium over old rates..then you have rendered me speechless...    
       
   If you don't care, you probably should !!! That way you don't make the same mistake again... Inadvertently or purposely....  
     
  -- Modified on 2/22/2014 11:20:33 PM
 
     
  I guess I just don't worry about what other people do.    
     
  And I don't know what "mistake" you're referring to. Or why you're getting so combative towards me. I'm not trying to take sides here so just take it easy, man.

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fraud is fraud. i don't think anyone dislikes this woman, but a review community is entitled to call out things they don't find honest. if one of you had a ncns you would be ranting all day long. what happens if you drive 4 hours to find out you have already seen this woman at a cheaper rate when you were hoping for a new provider, which is what she is pretending to be. a new provider. most of you would be pissed and you know it. so if there is nothing wrong  with what she is dong, then nothing to hide. should be no problem to let everyone know she is these two people at two different rates. guys can decide which rate they want to pay.

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Both her sites are up if you want to see for yourself.  And if you check her TER page it has been updated to show her newest name.  

That wouldn't have happened had others not pointed out the additions to TER.  This is one of the purposes of TER.  To share pertinent information.  So now at least a potential consumer can see that she's running multiple rates...and he can decide if he wants to pay $ 350 or $ 1 k for the same thing.  Sure sounds like a pretty easy decision for most.
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
It just seems like there's a lot of jumping to conclusions going on here. But whatever. Like I said, I just don't care enough. Even though Curly thinks that my apathy means I'll follow suit.  
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Simply bringing to the attention of anyone interested in knowing that a gal is presenting conflicting rates under different stage names...with the exact same services.    
     
  Many gals have multiple stage names for different services or in different areas.  JLS has done none of that and simply is doing a B&S on guys who may see her under her newest stage name.  
     
  The risk is that one day some guy will see the B&S and not take kindly to it.  It's her problem when that day happens.  At a minimum guys will (and already are) back channel on this deception.  
     
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
   
       
   
Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
creating a whole different persona, when the original persona is still there, and market yourself as 10 yrs younger, and as a brand new pussy at 67% premium over old rates..then you have rendered me speechless...    
         
    If you don't care, you probably should !!! That way you don't make the same mistake again... Inadvertently or purposely....    
       
   -- Modified on 2/22/2014 11:20:33 PM
   
       
   I guess I just don't worry about what other people do.    
       
   And I don't know what "mistake" you're referring to. Or why you're getting so combative towards me. I'm not trying to take sides here so just take it easy, man.

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all you have to do is 'say' that something is the truth. And then watch that statement become the truth.  

This whole discussion is based on an unverified assumption. But again, even if JLS is posting different rates? so what? Who cares? Is this really that shocking?  

Research your choices before plunking your money down. Ya'll are big boys

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Same dress and same jewelries on both website? Come on, she can do better than this. At least, put on a different dress and wear different jewelries. And hide her face completely; her nose and mouth give her away. On top of that, running her ad in the same region? She is really insulting our intelligence; I guess she really thinks very low of us. I always thought she is a smart businesswoman but this really disappointed me. No effort whatsoever. At least work hard to deceive people. LOL.

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For me everything is either Pre-Feb 2012 or post Feb 2012.

But hey I'm still here!

xoxo,

Steph

-- Modified on 2/22/2014 10:28:57 PM

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Julia/Corinne is there. But I'm more confused as to why is said she doesn't need Eros but she's there? And why was she on GLS when she said that site shouldn't be trusted? I must have been a blond in a former life 'cause I'm officially confused by your post.

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You offered the "Nice Courtney" package. Lol.

AnotherDonJohn 1828 reads
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My last warning would be: watch out if you get on her bad side.
Ask the providers who work locally or tour in her area...

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hotplants 2096 reads
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I paid more for (anything--fill in the blank) than I 'could' have. And if/when I figure that out, that is on me. Because if both price points, for the same product or service, are out there and I paid the higher price, who is to blame?  

As you put it, a "john": may be more more inclined than another consumer to behave very badly if he feels like he got snookered. Sadly, that is probably true. But that says a helluva lot more about a "john" than it does a "hooker" .  

It does not demonstrate there is anything wrong with executing variant marketing schemes. All that does is say that johns can be potentially assholes (or much worse)

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We caught her early here, but similar B&S scams have been known to play out here in ways that really pissed off guys later, who learned of the deception.  

In nyc, the Sonya Olsen/Adrianna Ferreni scam was busted only recently after AF got two pages of fake, paid/ planted reviews of double 10 scores for a provider who is normally 7-9's. in that case, the upsell was 40% ( to $700/h) but guys were more upset by the fake high scores and fake description as an Italian provider (SO is Russian). If you recognized her as Sonya O, a pimp madam would call you and pressure you into keeping quiet first for a discount on the SO price, and then with the threat of outing. Check out how the new reviews are coming out on AF.  

You can envision the host of shill Manginas here giving their favorite lady a hand with reviews...

-- Modified on 2/23/2014 2:01:53 AM

AnotherDonJohn 1471 reads
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Unless there 's a guy like Tidwell.

Yes, RTW, the whole point is to market the same services under one profile: whether she wants to market two sets of services as JLS or whether she wants to strike out at the higher GFE rate as CL. See others' explanations of why what she did is not kosher.

This is also a cautionary tale for not owning your mistake when you are caught red handed.

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AnotherDonJohn 1907 reads
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Arguing" the body her choice "here?...Clue less! Lol.  
Where's CPA shovel ? You are awesome! Keep going.  

There's a thread about black guys that you guys were all to happy to repeat it a million times below? Why isn't this any different she felt she could get 1k its her body! Right! Why is this any different doesn't bother me what a lady chooses to do with HER body. You guys are thinking because she once  charged 600 or whatever, she obligated to keep doing that? Its her body! You feel slighted because? No one has said why they personally feel slighted? I know you don't give a shit about others from your actions. I figured it out id was a new reason to talk badly about a cool lady most of you have never even met.  
 
Also the owning mistake part is laughable,  she owes you or I or anyone else here nothing.  Cmon dude. Why did she make up a story, maybe an attempt to avoid a bunch of bullshit on the boards. Maybe -- Modified on 2/23/2014 2:20:04 AM

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And does she charge all new clients the higher rate?

Are her "friends" being grandfathered in while she declines to see new clients who contact her through her old site?

In most other business ventures I don't think this would elicit the same response.

Venus Company provides a product. The owner opens another business providing a similar product but at a higher price. He calls it Aeneas Company. People find out that both companies are created, owned, and operated by the same person. Boy, I bet the shit would really hit the fan, right? No. He has no exclusive obligation to the patrons or clients of Venus Company.

I really, really, really don't see the difference.

AnotherDonJohn 1468 reads
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Why I don't teach tarded kids...I don't have the patience.
I'm sure you'll get plenty of responses without me.
Also feel free to pay her the new rate while other guys are questioning whether to pay the $350.  
Happy shilling!  
Just stick a fork in her because her rep as JLS/CL, and whatever next handle is discovered, is "done."

-- Modified on 2/23/2014 3:22:40 AM

Blowing Chunks 1901 reads
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I didn't advertise 2 different prices at the same time though,  
my rates were changing frequently due to the demand in the market.  

Supply vs demand, I guess.  

I've always had one price at any given... second though... lmao :D

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 580 reads
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She can't get reviews on JJ, deactivate it, then get reviews as Corinne. JJ comes back up and her current profile looks like it does now, with JJ's old reviews.

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The combined efforts of the brain trust have brought to light the diabolical machinations of the evil mastermind known as JLS!! Please turn your efforts now to finding solutions to the problems in Ukraine, Syria, and Iran!! You are our only hope!! And beyond that, a cure for cancer, HIV, and world hunger can only be a few insightful posts away!! On behalf of all Americans I offer my heartfelt gratitude. I, for one, slept better knowing that you guys were on the watch protecting all of us.

Well done men. I eagerly await your next update.

God bless you and the United States of America!
Posted By: AnotherDonJohn
My last warning would be: watch out if you get on her bad side.  
 Ask the providers who work locally or tour in her area...

Hello.Duchess See my TER Reviews 1589 reads
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Thanks for stepping up and saying it. They are so vicious and gossipy. As a woman, I find that so off-putting in a man.  

It's like they live to put people down, and it's even worse when its done under some fake vermeer of the good of the industry.  

They talk so big online! Makes me wonder (shudder) what they are like in real life.  

They obviously have no character if they think it is acceptable in any forum or situation to denigrate some woman they never even met for god knows what transgression they have cooked up this week.

This is not a game. These women have bills to pay and businesses to run. Assailing someone's reputation as a provider without cause or good reason should not be a board sport.

How would they feel if someone did this to them in their careers?  

And who are these guys? I mean, do they have lives? The energy they expend on these boards to trash people -- it's mind-boggling. I mean, do they have jobs?  Families?  Geez!  You would think they'd have something better to do with their time...but evidently they don't.  

Bleah!

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Hello.Duchess See my TER Reviews 1686 reads
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Thank you very much. And as you say, it's a review board. So review her, if you've seen her.

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soobvious 1611 reads
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she's not just charging different rates. she is pretending to be a totally new provider too dumb to pull the other website. soome of you are slow. she is not going to get 1k which is why she has to keep the cheap persona. so its not the end of the world but it certainly shoots her brand down. guys who pay that much for a hooker do so because they are coned into thinking she is exclusive and most are, but when you still have an hourly rate guys can fuck you at, you're just funny.  
you guys keep sayiing its only about two different rates. no its about being two different people at one time which has been done, but the other girls were smart eough not to get busted in the first month. had she put the corinne site in california i doubt too many would have made the connection and she would have actually been able to command that rate. maybe. but she put the site in the very state she lives as Julia so others could compare the photos. no mistaken. if she was so honest and on the up, why is she still denying its her? many women command over 1k. they don't go slum it and charge by the hour on the side because not many are paying them. julia thought she reinvented the wheel wth muliple personals when she just got busted.it is in her rights to charge one rate on ter and another on eros but you might want to tell ter guys that their rate is the one being advertised here and just keep t hush for the eros guys. really no crime n that if you don't get caught. word has spread all over the public and private areas and other boards too. if  were her i would just say yep i did it and fuck who don't like it but is she doing that. no she is chickenshit.

-- Modified on 2/23/2014 9:57:35 AM

AnotherDonJohn 767 reads
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...Someone lets TER know the two individuals are the same.
If it's not her doing it, definitive evidence must be submitted.

The problem is that when the new profile uses completely fake pictures. In nyc, Sonya Olsen is still getting reviews as the fake (Italian, SO is Russian) Adrianna Ferreni, even though over 10 guys have outed her publically including those who have reviewed SO. No one can link them through their photos. She wasn't as foolish as JLS/CL to use the same incriminating pictures.  

Who do you think had the Corrine name linked to the JLS profile? Hint: it wasn't JLS. I'm sure she was heading toward a SO/ AF upsell scam as well.  Lol.
Posted By: Courtney.ova
She can't get reviews on JJ, deactivate it, then get reviews as Corinne. JJ comes back up and her current profile looks like it does now, with JJ's old reviews.

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rod you are not getting the point. why are we horrible for helping promote her new persona? if she did nothing wrong, why is it bad to put this info out there? it is already out there by her! it's not about her raising her rate. she did not just raise the rate. she has two totally different personas to con guys into seeing her and how long do you think its gonna be before guys discover that corinne is also jls on ter and they could have had her for 350? this game works just fine when smart providers do it, but she is not smart at all. like asian said, same dress, jewelry, etc. if she wanted to get caught, then why is she denying its her. thank us for helping her out. she did not want this out there though and that's the point but it's public knowledge and property when you post on the internet.

AnotherDonJohn 1619 reads
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One day, someone's going to teach WB about price elasticity of demand.  
In his example, the market was priced relatively efficiently for that sad ol' Venus product.  
Let's call it a $350 garden hoe.
If Venus company tries to raise the price 67%, the demand falls off a cliff because of comps in the market
(Ie, 46 yo gfe providers in Carolinas).
Hence, the marketing scheme to try to brand the tired product as a new luxury product.
However, your "related" product is in actuality the same tired product as the Venus company's.  

The market will generally catch up and reprice the new product but it could take longer in some cases.  
I cited the similar Adrianna Ferreni scam has been going on for a year.  
In this case we, not JLS, made sure her new name was added to her profile.
Now she CAN price however she wants.  
And ter will make sure demand responds accordingly.

soobvious 1525 reads
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real slow for you.

1. julia jones is ONLY 350 an hour. why can't she drop that low rate and just come back as Corinne? because she knows damn well she will starve to death waiting for guys to pay her that much. ask any other provider in the 1k range. most of them only see a couple guys a month and they have another job. julia has admitted many times she needs a certain amount of money a week, and to get that she has to CON people. she has not other income and that's obvious. when does she work. she is on ter 7 days a week.  

2. Corinne is 1k which is not a problem if a guy does not find out Julia is also corinne at 350. i did not call her golden corral. i said thats how a guy is gonna feel after he finds out he could have had her for 350. high end gals do not see guys for an hour on the sly with another persona and if they do, they don't get caught. getting caught makes your new so called exclusive brand go in the toileet and thats what happened.  

Which provider would you see if you knew it was the same girl? Stop being a kiss ass. You know damn well you would not pay 1k if you new you could get the same ass for 350. It's not about the rate! t's about being deceptive. if she wants to put on her julia site that each guy will be charged a different rate no problem. if as one persona she wants to charge 200 to white guys, 400 to asians and 1k to idiots, that's also ok. she is not doing that!

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if a guy ripped you off you would be singing a different tune. you are acting like her real name is being outed and a boycott not to see her. none of that is going on. guys have a right to know about scams and this is a scam. don't try this yourself or you see what happens. sounds like you might be considering it. if you have to go through this much trouble to get guys to pay for your pussy, you are not all that in the first place. if her julia business was so great like she bragged about for years, why the need for a new persona? case closed.

AnotherDonJohn 1818 reads
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You have no idea how much public support there is from established hobbyists and providers against the target of your shill.
You seem to be clueless about public perception and reality.
You're arguing we are followers. I certainly am not.
You're arguing we're biased. Who's more biased than a guy who "showed her the money" already and is president of the fan club?
I haven't had any dealings with her except for a few pms when she was trolling for interest and what I've heard and read indirectly. I just did my research.

Your rep was already pretty bad. Sorry you can't tell she's 46 and running a scam. Have some goddamn self respect.

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something is up alright. you are too stupid to see the forest for the trees. when a guy contacts julia who has seen corinne, julia has to lie to that clent saying she is booked. same with the reverse. how is that legit and honest business? she is trying to pawn off two people when its the same person and to do that she has to make sure she does not see the same guys as julia and corinne. thats deceptive. how you can't see that is what is crazy. no one is shaming a woman for getting more money. she is not dong that. shei s conning.

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hookers lie about their age all the time, but in her case she looks older. can't pull it off. thats the hardest 38 i have ever seen. her lips, neck and hands dictate 50 but she gets all this surgery right. she just got done bragging about how young she looked then a guy blasts her old skin in a review. too funny.

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...and some others-- have discovered that a provider who is having a tough time making ends meet tried out a different tactic. She put up a second site, advertising herself under a new "stage name," and charged more for her sessions. Apparently, the only reason she thought she could "get away" with this is because she got a bunch of likes in a contest for Ms TER for January. And you have evidence that suggests that one guy stuffed the ballot box with multiple "likes."

So, you're saying, that this dastardly act will result in some "poor" fellow seeing her new ad, deciding that the experience is worth the price, and booking with her. He'll leave the session feeling either that it was indeed worth the money or that it wasn't. BUT he might stumble upon the ad with the lower rate and then DEFINITELY feel it wasn't worth it and he'd been had.

So... Your solution is to come down on the provider who's trying to make ends meet by employing such an unheard of tactic, thereby alerting everyone so that her clients will feel less buyer remorse? And this is... What? Nobel? Whistle-blowing? Your duty to your fellow man?

But your motives are your own business, at this point, and we can no more accurately speculate about them than you can speculate about... Blah, blah, blah, you know how this paragraph ends.

So if I'm missing something, could you please restate your position? I really do want to understand what exactly is going on here.

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And yes, selling the exact same product at a higher price at, say, a different location (we'll leave the issue of different overhead costs out of the metaphors because that's not a determining factor in the JLS matter) does sound like a risky business venture. I'm still thinking about this.

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 1784 reads
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Sometimes I'm amazed at the cause-celebs people embrace, but when the arguments pose interesting puzzles, I can't stay out of it.

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 1951 reads
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So... If... this is a scam, it seems to me it is not going to be a very successful one.

I will say that I know an escort in her 40's who commands could money, and I don't consider it a scam when compared to the usual fare.

Extortion, blackmail, misrepresentation, b&s, what?

The pics aren't up to date?
Mutton dressed as lamb?

I see a woman making a desperate move hoping to luck out.
Call the fire department!

I think I get the picture now, and what she did wasn't smart.
There's no forgiveness for being dumb, is there.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 1605 reads
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Dude, I get it. She tried an unorthodox (sneaky/smart/criminal/capitalist/whatever you want to call it) marketing strategy, it didn't work, and she got called out on it. Fine.  

Here's what I don't get: I'm getting torn a new asshole (mostly via backchannel) because I refuse to jump on the "off with her head!" bandwagon that's going on here. The drama completely bores me, JLS has been nothing but sweet to me, and I have no personal knowledge of or experience with any of the negativity that she allegedly puts out. I'm not "defending" shit. I'm acknowledging my ignorance of the situation and choosing a position of neutrality based on that. I'm not going to go on some major investigative pursuit of knowledge about this whole thing because I just don't care enough. I'm speaking from my perspective and that's it. This is turning into a really lame lynch mob.  
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Both her sites are up if you want to see for yourself.  And if you check her TER page it has been updated to show her newest name.    
   
 That wouldn't have happened had others not pointed out the additions to TER.  This is one of the purposes of TER.  To share pertinent information.  So now at least a potential consumer can see that she's running multiple rates...and he can decide if he wants to pay $ 350 or $ 1 k for the same thing.  Sure sounds like a pretty easy decision for most.  
   
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
It just seems like there's a lot of jumping to conclusions going on here. But whatever. Like I said, I just don't care enough. Even though Curly thinks that my apathy means I'll follow suit.    
     
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Simply bringing to the attention of anyone interested in knowing that a gal is presenting conflicting rates under different stage names...with the exact same services.      
       
   Many gals have multiple stage names for different services or in different areas.  JLS has done none of that and simply is doing a B&S on guys who may see her under her newest stage name.    
       
   The risk is that one day some guy will see the B&S and not take kindly to it.  It's her problem when that day happens.  At a minimum guys will (and already are) back channel on this deception.    
       
   
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
   
         
   
Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
creating a whole different persona, when the original persona is still there, and market yourself as 10 yrs younger, and as a brand new pussy at 67% premium over old rates..then you have rendered me speechless...      
           
     If you don't care, you probably should !!! That way you don't make the same mistake again... Inadvertently or purposely....    
         
    -- Modified on 2/22/2014 11:20:33 PM
   
         
    I guess I just don't worry about what other people do.      
         
    And I don't know what "mistake" you're referring to. Or why you're getting so combative towards me. I'm not trying to take sides here so just take it easy, man.

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Guess that'll show her, huh?

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 1701 reads
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Both really nice guys. Damn I missed one!

xoxo,

Steph (one of the old broads)

AnotherDonJohn 1261 reads
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jLS:
600/h

cL:
1000/hr

That's apples to apples. What is the difference in the rate, Einstein?
I did it in my head but use a calculator because all eyes are on your intelligence level and supposed business you manage.  

$1k is her CL minimum. Because 2hr is her minimum except for the stupid naked gourmet thing.

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a provider having a hard time making ends meet would not create a more expensive persona. she would either see more guys as JLS or raise her JLS rate to 500. she can't get that money as JLS though. she did that out of pretense hoping no one would catch it and they did. she has said ad nauseum that her JLS business is always thriving, her kids are set for life, and she makes more than enough to do mure than make ends meet. she was trying to be something she is not. a high end hooker when she has repeatedly yacked about how comfortable she was at her JLS rate. shes a hypocrite and a liar. nothing was wrong with her charging 350 but her ego got the best of her. only problem with ego is stupidity is blind and she was very stupid going about it the way she did. that can't be disputed.

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smart woudl have been not to get caught. what you keep missing is she spent all this time and money trying to build a new brand that is now shot to smithers because she was too dumb to kill off her cheap persona. your brand is only as exclusive as your past, and her hourly fuck rates are still online for anyone to see and partake in.  no one is going to pay 1k when they can get it for 350. only guys who do not know about it will, which is why smart hookers do not get caught doing this. you know how many providers started off at 300 and went up to a grand? tons, but they did not have to go thru all this to get those rates. they kept their one name and guys still paid them. apparently she did not have too much faith that JLS could pull that money, and she was right. this is not genius branding. it's brand suicide. she killed her own new brand in less than a month. does tide tell you they own a no named detergent? uh uh. you have to do research to find that out, but tide has been selling an off brand that has less cleaning power and the original tide forever.  its called vertical integration. looks like jls is only on the horizontal plane. she is selling the same shit for more and if she had just raised her JLS rates to a grand, there would be no problem at all, but she knows no one is going to pay her that. she also knows corinne alone can't make her enough money so she has to keep JLS around. brand suicide.

-- Modified on 2/23/2014 2:46:14 PM

Dr Who revived 1302 reads
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Feel free to do a search on that topic...but it sure seems that the gals have virtually NO interest in seeing that happen.  Heck, too many gals would have to tell their real ages....and that wouldn't be good for their business.

I trust you really meant decriminalized....that I would agree with.
Posted By: Cosette
we would have this shit legalized already.

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END OF MESSAGE

AnotherDonJohn 1348 reads
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...Would make the market too transparent for over 40 girls.
And the illegality premium would go away.
One can get two girl GFEs with 20-30 year olds in parts of Europe where this shit is legal for half the US price or less.

Cosette 1489 reads
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Yes I'm aware of the difference. Decriminalization is most important.  

But legalization is not a problem for me. If a byproduct of legalization were that prices came down in exchange for other positive things then there's plenty of women who would support it. I don't say this based off of idealism, it is based off of conversations.  

I'm a capitalist anyway, artificial barriers to a free economy like an illegality premium is not something I support.

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Hello.Duchess See my TER Reviews 1176 reads
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WTH did you get THAT from? I'm not considering changing the way I do business, and I sure don't need you warning me about anything. Why would you jump to a completely baseless conclusion like that?  You are only proving my point about you and certain posters on this board.

I'm acting like what I am: mad that a fellow provider is being attacked in an incredibly personal way and sick of seeing this bullying behavior happen over and over on these boards.  

My point is this and only this:

I don't buy for one second that the OP wanted to "warn" people about a scam. I doubt any of you jokers would cross the street to help each other out if the other person were having a heart attack.  

The OP on this thread has an especially nasty and vicious way of expressing himself that is completely unwarranted and gratuitous, that is mean-spirited, and that adds nothing of value to the board.

You have forgotten how to be gentlemen, or maybe you never learned how in the first place

Dr Who revived 1155 reads
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I could have been quite vicious in an online attack...but I wasn't even close to that with this OP.

Seems like you have a personal vendetta against those who care to speak in truisms.  Don't worry my dear...there is no chance that the villains will completely take over TER.  There are still too many mangina's and WK's that will prevent that from ever happening.

FWIW...maybe you should consider a new handle and stage name.  From the looks of things, you aren't getting rave reviews as Duchess.  I'm sure JLS/Corrine will gladly show you how to phony up with TER and P411 (don't forget EROS and GLS either  LOL).  And now you know not to get caught with your hand in the cookie jar...albeit from the looks of things it's too late.
Posted By: Hello.Duchess
WTH did you get THAT from? I'm not considering changing the way I do business, and I sure don't need you warning me about anything. Why would you jump to a completely baseless conclusion like that?  You are only proving my point about you and certain posters on this board.  
   
 I'm acting like what I am: mad that a fellow provider is being attacked in an incredibly personal way and sick of seeing this bullying behavior happen over and over on these boards.  
   
 My point is this and only this:  
   
 I don't buy for one second that the OP wanted to "warn" people about a scam. I doubt any of you jokers would cross the street to help each other out if the other person were having a heart attack.  
   
 The OP on this thread has an especially nasty and vicious way of expressing himself that is completely unwarranted and gratuitous, that is mean-spirited, and that adds nothing of value to the board.  
   
 You have forgotten how to be gentlemen, or maybe you never learned how in the first place.  
   
 

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Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 221 reads
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I was referring to this quote here... Understood it as the fact that J could delete old TER profile honestly and create new one under C. That's all I'm referring to. ;)

Posted By: swellingproblem
? If she were on the up and up, she would have told us she was Julia Jones and not let ADJ bust her. Or she would not have left the Julia Jones profile.".
-- Modified on 2/24/2014 9:04:09 PM

WondersOfTheWrld 1344 reads
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Not sure why my post was pulled. Maybe I can't mention that body parts aside from her nose and mouth look the same. It's all good, b/c we all have eyes and can clearly see the features that appear to be similar on the two escorts (no judgments, just obvious similarities as others  have mentioned there are as well). I wonder if I post that two providers look similar b/c they're blond with bigs boobs and similar hourglass frames or broad shoulders, if that would get pulled too. Maybe we just can't reference the arms, hands, chin and lips, and better just stick to the mouth and nose like you did. Lol

Or maybe it was pulled for the following:

Well, I said the dresses and jewelry aren't the same, and I support ladies running their business as they see fit. And what is being discussed here is done everyday in the real world too. And I thought it made sense to have it on her regional board and I didn't think it was national newsworthy (which I still don't think it is).  

Well that's that and this post might not see the light of day as well b/c I repeated what I previously said, and apparently something was against the rules or I offended someone with the points mentioned above. Well, you can never be certain what can and can't be posted here any more.

-- Modified on 2/25/2014 1:02:17 AM

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Her answer to the fraud was to feel justified and do a bunch of propaganda spins: "gotten lots of PMs emails all supportive," "support from my all my ter family," " no one owns me,"  etc.

The key thing is after the initial denials, of course, everything I found was true. Lol.

Poor loser statement 1:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=79971&boardID=29&page=1#79971

Poor loser statement 2:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=79974&boardID=29&page=1#79974


-- Modified on 2/27/2014 1:00:51 AM

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