Subject: Taxes

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
Capital Gains Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Court Fines (indirect taxes)
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money)
Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Local Income Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Septic Permit Tax
Service Charge Taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Road Toll Booth Taxes
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone State and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Toll Bridge Taxes
Toll Tunnel Taxes
Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)
Trailer registration tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

COMMENTS: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What the hell happened?

anything to make a buck or two.

So they can sit on their fat a** while the rest of us work our a**es off!!!

They are more corrupt than any criminal I know. They can get away with it.

Shaye

Saying that this country had the largest middle class in the world 100 years ago (which, proporonate to population, I would wonder about)
is not really saying all that much, given the class differentials in the world at that time.  I mean, Britain and several other European countries were holding hundreds of millions of citizens in virtual slavery conditions in order to extract the material wealth of their "colonies" and allow them to maintain a military presence around the world.  The standards weren't very high in 1900, and it was easy for this country to be prosperous, given how most of it was stolen from its indigenous peoples and slavery and cheap immigrant labor helped build it up for a song.

As most empires have discovered, it is a lot harder to maintain world dominance once you reach it, both due to external and internal forces.  That we have to sacrifice in this country to maintain opportunity for ALL citizens (not doing so would carry its own risks...see Bastille Day), especially when the amount of our sacrifice is not out of line with our modern peer nations, troubles me much less than the excesses in the opposite direction (see Enron, Worldcom, Halliburton, etc.) and the fact that our current administration seems to be working to support this direction more.  

As I have said before on here, the past is exactly that, and it is not a model for the future because the playing field changes as time passes. Hey, Mom can still stay home, if Dad makes the right career choices, and if society was the way it ws back then, this DB would not exist.  I kind of like my women empowered, thank you.  It isn't change that has hurt America (if you consider it "hurt")...it is human nature.

Income redistribution.  Ultimately, I think this explains most of the costlier taxes.

100 years ago people made due with what they had, or were helped/supported by their friends and family. Charity organizations did some, but basically there was no safety net.

Now, the Gov't provides Social Security, college financial aid, unemployment insurance, gives $ to poor mothers, directly supports a huge educational system, maintains [poorly] an interstate highway system, spends large amounts to develop, procure, and maintain complicated defense systems, regularaly sends people into space, funds the CDC,etc.....and supports a large number of employees that don't do much, but are essential.

Much of this is necessary, much is waste, but none of it comes cheap. Of course, we're still the most prosperous country in the world with the largest middleclass.

Look at the bright side. As long as prostitution remains illegal, it won't be taxed.

But at least there is no Escort Tax!!!

Income redistribution.  Ultimately, I think this explains most of the costlier taxes.  - Of course. One only has to look at all the formerly upper class people living from hand to mouth or the formerly lower class people light their Cuban cigars with $100s to relieved the impact.  This is because of the policies of the viscous extreme liberal homosexual   HilleryClinton-loving traitorous ruling elite. First they take g-d out of the schools, then they put gays in the military, now they've taken all the money from the true RIGHT Americans.

These horrible left wing communists even say military spending is causing a deficit and cry about the lost of human rights.

There has been several  Income redistribution programs in the pass but this is the worst by far. In fact we the  Income redistribution of the 1800s, a 100% tax on indian land 100% tax on slaves bodies, worked out well.

Your wrong.   We have had liquor taxes since George Washington was president.  We had income taxes during the Civil War.  Court Fines have existed since before we were independent. I believe toll roads and bridges have also existed from before independence, though not always run by government.

On the other hand, we haven't had a tax on tea since we kicked out the British.

What has happened?  Well, a hundred years ago our military was tiny.  A hundred years ago we didn't have paved highways criscrossing the country.  A hundred years ago, people tended to have very large families that took care of their own elderly, sick and disabled.  A hundred years ago, government didn't fund much research.  A hundred years ago, an uneducated man could make  a good living.  Now the only way to do that is to run for governor of California.  Today government support for education, both at the elementary and advanced levels, is critical for our long term economic health.

Remember, the internet, telecommunications, computers, and semi-conductor industries exist today as a very direct, fundemental result of government funded research 20 and 30 years ago.

Do you really want go back to taxing tea?

I absolutely agree...

Anybody else sick to death of those who "whine" about taxes?  One hundred years ago ten year old girls were chained to sewing machine sweat shops for ten hours a day, people died regularly from contaminated food and water, the bites from unlicensed dogs often caused rabies and painful death, etc., etc.  Go the Guatemala, most of Africa, etc., where there are almost no taxes and see how much you enjoy life.

The counsel of foreign relations,
Some very large and very old European banking families,
America getting dragged into WWI
The creation of the Federal Reserve,
The ratification of the Income Tax in 1913.

 That's what happened

 

I wouldnt want to have lived 100 years ago.  So what if I have to pay a little more in taxes.  Life is pretty good for me and I dont mind giving back as much as possible.

World War II.  The government tripled in size to fight it and never shrunk back.  You know how hard it is to kill off an agency?  It almost never happens.

Socialism hadn't been invented yet (well, I guess Marx was around in about 1880), and, in a word "Entitlements".

Prior to all that the Civil war, the worst thing to ever happen to America. It extinguished the republic and gave birth to a martial law "democracy" where the president ruled as king via executive orders. It spawned the 14th amendment, thus creating a "US citizen subject to its jurisdiction"; where before there were only American citizens (there is a difference) and state citizens.

also the bankruptcy of 1933 and the final whammy; going off the gold standard.

By your definition then, Adams, Hancock, TJ, et al were "whiners". They, after all, rebelled over taxes that were a mere pittance to what we pay today. No, I am not tired of "tax whiners" as you call them, but I am tired of Socialists who champion big govt and glorify taxation. To borrow a question from the "pony tail guy" from one of Clinton's town meeting a few years back: "What nation ever taxed itself into prosperity"? NONE. Taxes are destructive. Chief Justice John Marshall said "The power to tax is the power to destroy"...Geo. Washington stated "government is not reason, it is force"...combine that power with that force and it is deadly combination which is killing American productivity.

Guatemala? Well there and other countries like it are where American jobs are heading in growing numbers. And they ain't a comin' back.  Many of these companies are doing it simply to survive. The cost of production is much lower there, there are no labor unions dictating wages, and they are not subject to the overregulation and taxation that is killing businesses in the US.

You have no clue the level of fraud and illegality the IRS is involved in. Feel free to over pay all taxes; as much as you can afford and then some. Government will not object. The bastards won't even so much as thank you. "Government" has no magical powers (other than to make our wages disappear and our currency worthless).  People build and maintain roads, schools (a glaring example of the failure of government..or success thereof...they have succeeded in dumbing down generations of citizens and converting them to Marxist ideals) and do other things credited to "government". People do it, not "government". But then we should all just shut up and pay our taxes, right?  Government has no solutions...it only creates problems. There are few social problems that could not be alleviated to some extent by cutting government.

YOu only need to look at California as a model of the failure of socialist government. They got their liberal left wing governor and legislature; sky high taxes; welfare state...now look at the result. Then you have idiots like Robt. Reich (or as Limbaugh calls him Reichhhhhhhhhhhhh) calling for a war tax on the wealthy. The wealthy who pay the lion's share of taxes in this country. Start taxing the poor. The unproductive. That would light a fire under their asses. But then they make no money so we have to steal from the rich, most of whom sacrificed and busted their asses to get there.

Anything you tax you get less thereof. Raise the tax on cigarettes and smoking decreases. Hell, govt. should be encouraging smoking as much as possible. They get a cut off all the sales of cigs and such. Tax prosperity and you get less of it. People find it doesn't pay  (literally) to make more money. It gets taken away from them. Shame on them for being productive.

You want this country to turn into a third world shithole? Keep on with the taxes. We're well on our way.