i noticed some ter members only use independents. why?

Who do you think will give you better service; The owner of a small business or their employee?

many agencies are rip off factories.  

If you see adult ads, notice how many gals say "Not an agency"?  There is a reason for this.  

Of course, TER takes care of all of that uncertainty, so why go anywhere else?

yea i was alway curious about that

Some agencies are legit and some arent. Do your TER homework. The biggest thing I have noticed about agencies is the phone call to signal the end of the time; can be very annoying and anticlimactic so to speak. I have only used a few agencies and still prefer independents, however I wont use either without solid TER reviews.

I prefer indies because I receive more individualized attention with them.

when i joined TER (the only hobby community i've ever been part of) i quickly realized that it's standard dogma around here that agencies are bad/evil/ripoffs/etc

this is as equally invalid as saying that all indies are shining beacons of providerhood, which is clearly not the case

in truth, the majority of my hobbying over the last 15 years was carried out through agencies not indies ...  and while not all of it was gratifying (obviously cuz it was without TER) and i  had my share of ROBs/skanks/deadfish/etc, some of the best providers i've had came from agencies with whom i'd established good business relations and trust (which i grant is rare)

in pre-TER days it was a joy to have a friendly proprietress call you up and say "i've got a new girl who's just your type, satisfaction guaranteed" -- now granted if you call a random agency blind you most likely will be disappointed, especially if it's in Vegas i'm told!  LOL

Well as a new agency owner, my wife and just started one in the Seattle area, I can tell you this, one of the reasons we decided to open the agency was that we felt that we could provide a better level of service than the run of the mill shop. By us doing all of the legwork, advertising, tracking screening, etc... the business end of things so to speak, it leaves the entertainers free to do what they do best!   And it also gives the client a place to turn for assistance in the unlikely event they are not happy etc...

And no, this is not a plug for our new agency, not even a link to our site, just my humble opinion.  

BigJim43

After all the housekeeping is said and done ...you and your wife's agency will only be as good as your providers' "legwork".

I'm more of a breast man myself but its the total GFE package that will really matter.

Cheers!...and good luck with the agency!

too often, I had to schedule way ahead of time, contact 4 or 5 times before I could see a well reviewed independent.  By the time when we met, my lust for her usually has been quite diminished.

On the other hand, a good reputatable agency usually have a number of choices available with only a few hours notice.  One or two phone calls will get the job done.

Besides, most of the ladies I am interested in are only in this hobby to supplement their income.  They are often busy with their regular lives - going to school, modeling and auditioning, that they don't really have time to do screening or return calls.

There are independents out there who had other interest too.  However, they only have time to do so by bundling schedules together days down the line or simply not answering the insatiable amount of calls.


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I've got to agree with Singleton.  The single worst experience I've had was with an independent, while I've never had a bad one with an agency.  'Course, I always do my homework, and that worst experience was with an unreviewed provider (before I always did my homework).  The value of TER is for those who seek some "strange" but want to avoid risk.  But even on those rare occasions where I've returned to a provider, there has sometimes been a variance in service.  The classic YMMV rule.

For example, Seattle and Houston are two towns that I'm aware of that are known for having several good agencies.  San Diego, where I live, however, Agency is a synonym for rip-off (either significant upselling, or worse, cash and dash).

When I travel to Seattle, I am much more likely to call Elliott Bay Escorts than an independent.  They are TRULY a value added agency that protects their ladies AND their customers.  They specialize in hot college students working their way through school, who don't have the time to do the level of screening and website development of a top tier indy.  And they genuinely care about customer service.  If they send someone who is not a long term established girl, they actually will call you back after the lady leaves to ask if you had a good time and to give them constructive feedback.

That level of agency service is unheard-of in most places.

I agree with those saying that not all agencies are bad.  Some of my most memorable rockets have been launched by providers from agencies.  My most memorable OOOPs, have been with independents.  The problem that even once good agencies have is in getting lazy and sloppy, when that happens they start lying about the appearance, age, weight, ect and start cheating their clients and their best providers.  Of course you somtimes get lucky with an agency, I had a recent situation in New York where an agency did a bait and switch on me, only thing was that the provider that showed up was a young, very hot and classy young blonde dutchwoman (descriptive term are all my favorites).  There was a good time for all.  How do you say "smiling all night"?

A agency takes a cut of the fee... usually 40 %.. so if you pay 300, the girl only gets 180.  See her outside of the agency and she'll be happy to take 250... you pay less, she gets more and the service is the same.

Sometimes the service is better because a provider is usually willing to do more, for more money.  Think about it, would you work any harder if your boss is going to keep almost half your pay?? Especially when you're doing all the HARD work.

Your right on point, I have worked for an agency in NY. They started my rates at $500 and they took half. If the client wasnt a regular they would boost up the price a couple hundred.Also if a client was paying credit card they would charge an extra $ yet I didnt get any extra.

Well that is certainly true! We try to only bring on board ladies who have a good reputation and who are reliable. In the Seattle area there are a lot of very good providers.

Thanks for your comment, I appreciate it and also for your good wishes.

BigJim