This thread contains many valid explanations. I want to add a few that have meaning from my personal experience. The rise of "feminists" who made us men the enemies, Steinhem, Greer, Germain, et al. It intruded into the workplace with really bitchy women who compete on a totally different basis. The prevailing joke was "Director and below = sexual harrassment, Vice President and above = career enhancement." I met many men in their 20's who totally said "screw 'em" and thought I was nuts to respect, and adore women, and treat them with dignity. Secondly, and obviously connected, was the infestation into the civvie dating population. I would rather hang out with the guys than put up with the vile stuff that came out of the mouths of ladies in the bar scene. Yes, you girls may have the "power" but you have demeaned your true allies into enemies and sperm donors. Sex was romance, adventure, challenge, competition, erotic, sometimes even sport. Now who wants to put up with civvies anymore? Providers, rather than be the scum of society are, in fact, the most beautiful, sensual, experiences available without spending a lifetime building wealth and having it siezed as "community property." You asked for it, you got it.
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I have read that marriage is down almost 60% in the past 10 years. Also, and related, I have observed a new attitude among young women and men during this time. There is a move toward casual relationships, friends with benefits, easy sexuality, etc. Where is this heading? Anyone's guess.
Another trend I have seen is that there are literally thousands of providers ever since the internet has made it so accessible. When I started in the hobby fifteen years ago, it was not nearly as easy to find great providers. Now it is.
Not that the two trends are closely related but there is some similarity as I see it. Easy casual sexuality and much more independence among young women.
Comments?
Reduced world population, I hope. 
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Well another thing that comes into play is women are raised to not get married as soon as they get old enought now like it use to be. They want to be strong & independent in the work place and at home ... I actually think that there is going to be a rise in the need of Gentlemen escorts in the future for that simple reason.
Ladies can get it easy if they want to.. But you still have to look at the women in the business industry that are traveling alone for work don't want to have to go to a bar to get a pick up or have to make a connection they want it easy these days just like a gentleman.
I think we are going to start seeing alot of ladies start using servicesa as well..
But I think its a good thing that ladies are expressing themselfs alot more freely and sexually we have had a big turn around and we are still going to see alot more in the future.
HEHE... Ladies and Gents "co workers" are going to see each other walking down the halls of a nice hotel at lunch time..
If anyone read the book "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley, you'll have an idea of where this world is headed. It describes a society where marriage doesn't exist, promiscuity is a virtue, and everybody just has sex with everybody (of the opposite sex, since the book was written long before lesbianism became a trend). The author doesn't mention the hobby in any shape or form, but if our society were ever to become like the book, I'm sure there'd be providers and hobbyists. They were around for thousands of years, so why stop now?
It seems attorneys have ruined the concept of marriage. Fewer men want to get married, and certainly if they've lost half once, they don't want to risk losing it again. Unfortunately due to the inequality in the work force (wages, opportunities, etc), this puts women in a predicament as we live longer than men and have always been reliant on the man to be the primary breadwinner while we are the nurturers/caregivers. I don't really see this as more independence for women. Providers are on the rise as are contractual long-term arrangements, but I think the mentality for women is survival not independence. Those who are less attractive will really have a tough time, but even as an attractive, intelligent, loving woman, it's hard to find a commitment minded man. Also has a lot to do with a man's desire to eschew mortality. Men go for younger and younger women, and the older women are put out to pasture sooner... I think there will be a lot of single women living together in commune type environments supporting each other, pooling their resources. The part of the male mentality I don't understand is what's the point in having all that money if you don't share it with someone... and what's the point in living if you don't share your life with someone... who do you grow old with? Maybe guys are all cynics and expect their going to drop dead from cancer or a heart attack so who cares about growing old... It's a very fascinating topic you have brought up.
As a guy I can tell you, you are stereotyping us guys. To say we want just younger women, don't want marriage, don't want to share our lives is a misconception.
You actually know what the best part of my past experiences with women are?? Having fun with a woman in a non-sexual way, talking and flirting with women, and just being with a woman.
I've dated all ages, and seen some providers of all ages. Age means really nothing to me compared to how well I click with that person. When you feel a bond the intimacy is enhanced so much more than when there is no spark (and I've had these encounters as well).
One day I probably will get married to someone I truly click well with and in my mind there will be no doubts about it. These days you have to absolutely be sure about things and lots of people just rush into marriage.
I am in my late 20's, just recently single, and can tell you some of the most memorable moments I've had are with the more mature and ageless women out there as opposed to the younger providers because mature women get it and are usually comfortable with themselves (not all).
Do I want a younger woman? I could care less about that. I tend to date women closer to my age or even a few years older than me but if I had a great relationship with someone older than me, sure I'd date her. I've just never had the chance, never been approached by someone more than 10 years older than myself.
And one last thing, money means absolutely nothing compared to how wealthy you actually are with your past experiences and the collection of memories built up in your mind.
This thread contains many valid explanations. I want to add a few that have meaning from my personal experience. The rise of "feminists" who made us men the enemies, Steinhem, Greer, Germain, et al. It intruded into the workplace with really bitchy women who compete on a totally different basis. The prevailing joke was "Director and below = sexual harrassment, Vice President and above = career enhancement." I met many men in their 20's who totally said "screw 'em" and thought I was nuts to respect, and adore women, and treat them with dignity. Secondly, and obviously connected, was the infestation into the civvie dating population. I would rather hang out with the guys than put up with the vile stuff that came out of the mouths of ladies in the bar scene. Yes, you girls may have the "power" but you have demeaned your true allies into enemies and sperm donors. Sex was romance, adventure, challenge, competition, erotic, sometimes even sport. Now who wants to put up with civvies anymore? Providers, rather than be the scum of society are, in fact, the most beautiful, sensual, experiences available without spending a lifetime building wealth and having it siezed as "community property." You asked for it, you got it.
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After a disasterous encounter with a B&S operation, I went to a strip club with "relaxed rules" and grabed the first gal off the stage who was attractive. She started with a nice lap dance... and casually asked if I would like the more intimate setting of the champagne room... I thought, got the money that was gonna go to the escort burning a hole in my pocket - so why not? We go, she gets into it, and clearly is ok with my "exploration" - and we talk all the while... she asks what am I doing there, I am frank with her and describe my night and all that happened with the B&S operation. she was somewhat surprised but then looked at me and said, well I would be no B&S for ya. want to try to get together.... I thought sure. We set a price and a date. but here is the kicker. she was with a guy who left her penniless... and fixed it so that her ability to bring in money was compromised.... she actually negotiated her price by what specifically it would by her... a weeks worth of groceries for her kids, getting her car out of a towing problem or paying for a dental expense.... WOW! and - her complaint about the club she works in? Guys are not nice to her or respectful... so sad. well we will see - but I was surprised by what she said next. She said - I am in my 20s and no man will have me - got kids, debt and my life is a mess. and the sad part, she may be right. Contrast that with some of the better providers I know, they are independant women, some with kids, and some without, they are looking forward to what they do - or don't do. they CHOOSE the men that they date on a civvie basis. Quite the contrast. I have spoken with my friend here, to set the conditions and whatnot, and the most amazing thing - she acted like a high school school girl, in that someone (me) found her attractive and was willing to buy her dinner - and provide a nice time. it astounded her - that there was at least one nice guy there.
So? becoming a provider - for some - they too must be tired of the civie dating scene... and can encounter nice dudes along the way to the money.
That you are hitting with that opinion, but seeing how you are more articulate in writing than most providers, what is your opinion of women with good men and who do their level best to fuck around with other guys and girls. Age is a number and if a lady takes care of herself, she'll look great into her 70s. Your reviews suggest that you have been on the scene for more than 4 years. Why the spotty reviews? A reluctant tourist at this..?
Marriage down 60%? That statement, depending upon context, leaves a lot to interpretation. While US divorce rates flux between 55% - 65% in most recent interval studies, more than 50% of divorcees marry again at some point.
Internet and an increase of pay for sex services correlation? Again there is a lot of variables surrounding this subject. The worlds oldest profession did not earn such a reputation without some basis. While the internet certainly facilitates the commerce associated with all types of business trade; in and of itself it is not the reason why more people seemingly play in the hobby. What the internet provides is a community setting where people who are interseted in an activity can find others that enjoy similar interests. So it helps people with common goals find each other and to do so with faster speed and across greater distances. There would have to be long term research and data comparisons to support a notion that the internet is a root cause reason why people choose to hobby at all.
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been thousands of providers - they just have not been so readily apparent - I started out when this was not even a hobby in the late sixties, and the wealth of available ladies has always been there.
I know that there were at least 3 ways in the 70s to early 90s - one was truck stops and "hot tub" joints.... another was the CB airways, and the final way was "hitchhikers" in certain parts of cities... sure there were some "personals" in the newspapers... but for the most part - the other ways worked....
Ok, first of all the premise that if marraige is a thing of the past, people will be more promiscuous and there will be a need for more providers....WRONG! The first premise does not lead to the conclusion. If BOTH sexes are more promiscuous there will be a LESSER need for providers. If men can get laid easier in the civie world, there is lesser of a need for the providers for men. Another words if civie women are giving it up for free easily, why would a guy go to a provider? It is in a more supressed puritanistic society that women feel they need to be the conservative or controlling libido. In that society yes providers flurish. Look at who is in power in our government right now, the conservative religeous right. It is the same with women becoming more independent like men. They will slowly and freely go after the men they wish to satisfy themselves without attitudes from society. I agree with the reality that the "oldest profession" has not become larger it has become more accessible to more people due to the Internet. I always remember that old double standard story. An average guy walks into a bar to get laid. He has a chance in hell to really be successful. An average girl walks into a bar for the same reason and she has guys lined up to be able to be with her! If that parody changes so that both are equally successful and can get laid, there is lesser of a need for other help.
it's putting up with the BS that comes with it that makes this little community all the better. My only complaint is that street girls (and their pimps) are making it to the scene and the good providers are being squeezed on both ends. The new whores are younger, less experienced in the carnal arts and asking for top dollar for what amounts to a HJ and a quick boink. No passion, no real exchange, just pay me then fuck me, maybe. This portends poorly for those of us who prefer quality over quantity.
street gals making it to the internet scene. I suspect that you are spot on there, but have no stats to prove! That is really an interesting insight.
Yea, been there on civie dates where I actually had the thought that it would be easier to put a bullet in my brain that listen to the drival that came out of my dates mouth... yikes... and folks call me conservative! sheese.... she wants to have absolute control over her kids every waking moment! they will rebel! and she cannot see that! yikes.
Good thought!