Is that like, not using teeth? Lol
I’ve had a long-term friend for years who is a Chinese provider; we met back at the start of COVID and eventually just became friends. Recently, we were catching up and I was telling her about some of my recent encounters. I mentioned the stories these girls tell me—how they’re saving for grad school, or how their family used to be wealthy but fell on hard times and now they have to support them.
She looked at me and said, "Brother, you know those are all scripted, right?"
She explained that only "kind-hearted guys" like me actually believe the "soft stories." According to her, especially the girls with the best reviews, they have a specific skill set designed to make clients believe them. It’s essentially a hook to build an emotional connection. I know she can be cynical because she sees the industry from the inside, but it really made me wonder. Do you guys think she’s right? Is the "sob story" just part of the professional package?
Do you think everything this Chinese provider has told you has been "scripted" as well? How would she answer that, do you think?
Chinese houses typically lie about where they are from and call young ones students in need of money. When I met my friend, they had her as Canadian student visiting! But, I knew she wasn’t.
Do you think everything this Chinese provider has told you has been "scripted" as well? How would she answer that, do you think?
Stories are more likely to hook you if you repeat. Another reason why I rarely do. In the end, I’m paying for sex. She wants my money, not my companionship. That’s why I’m the paying customer and she’s the provider.
I don't script my real life because I am truthful & honest.
I don't need pity, but empathy from a kind soul is absolutely priceless.
I share my tragedies because I was unaware of rare diseases until my better half has been battling for her life. She's currently in the hospital again after another life threatening issue. It's sad, but that's the facts of life.
I believe sharing is caring. Educational. Those who have compassion are my people.
I am sure many providers lie, but I am not in that category.
Sorry to hear she’s back in the hospital. I will pray for her.
QB,
I posted a reply, but TER is "approving" it. Because of that, this one is probably gonna get delayed too...
But you are a good representation of a long-term surviving Star provider. From what I hear, you provide great service. Then, you're a girl's girl. So, your story is NEVER used as a solicitation... Keep telling it whenever you're comfortable and keep educating us all!
I, too, am incredibly proud and inspired by your sister. I've learned A LOT from you and her! Every time I hear about her, I'm reminded of the Book of Job. Bleh, this is getting too heavy for a fuck-board...
I, too, don't lie in business. It's too hard to keep track of, and all lies snowball (not in a good way 🤣). Well, it's common knowledge that I claim to be single on cam sites... But, if I'm fucking someone, then they're getting the truth out of me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I'd be wary of anyone who told me not to trust others. Isn't isolation one of the first tools of abusers?
-K
Hello, because "chinese" are cynical most of time. Especially mainlanders, I am sorry to generalizing. I can only go by my experience. I dont blame her. She is basically telling me, for popular girls they use tactics to hook you. Either from story or something else.
QB,
I posted a reply, but TER is "approving" it. Because of that, this one is probably gonna get delayed too...
But you are a good representation of a long-term surviving Star provider. From what I hear, you provide great service. Then, you're a girl's girl. So, your story is NEVER used as a solicitation... Keep telling it whenever you're comfortable and keep educating us all!
I, too, am incredibly proud and inspired by your sister. I've learned A LOT from you and her! Every time I hear about her, I'm reminded of the Book of Job. Bleh, this is getting too heavy for a fuck-board...
I, too, don't lie in business. It's too hard to keep track of, and all lies snowball (not in a good way 🤣). Well, it's common knowledge that I claim to be single on cam sites... But, if I'm fucking someone, then they're getting the truth out of me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I'd be wary of anyone who told me not to trust others. Isn't isolation one of the first tools of abusers?
-K
I am assuming that she was having a rough day... That's ridiculous!
First and foremost, as an EARLY provider, I learned that no one came to hear my "soft story". They came to be entertained. I found that I'd LOSE business by telling my story to an uninterested party. So... I learned to keep a smile on my face and act happy unless it was someone that I knew-knew. Most in this biz aren't coming to ANYONE out of sympathy!
There's a saying, "All generalizations are false," which is, by itself, false because it's a generalization... If I were having a cunty moment, I'd say that this provider just wants to keep you to herself... She's saying, "You can't trust them, only me." I'd suggest running for the hills! I'd definitely never trust another word out of her mouth!
I'm glad that you asked here. EVERYONE has a story... Hell, if we didn't, we'd be on permanent vacation, right? Or is that just me? LOL 🤣 Don't feel bad for asking. You listened to someone you trusted and then questioned the idea. That shows intellectual capability in itself! I'm kind of mad at her for making you feel less-than! My sole critique is, why does it matter that she's "Chinese"? Every nationality and ethnicity is capable of being an asshole. IJS.
Kisses,
Katie
I've seen a couple of hundred providers over the years. The vast majority had no "sob story ".
Several had stuff going on IRL that they felt comfortable sharing with me. These were sweet people who--like all of us--were dealing with stuff. They just wanted someone who would listen without judging.
Of all those women over all those years, I can think of maybe 2 who turned the experience into a request for cash beyond the fee paid. I provided it to one of them, and that was a lady who I saw about 25 times in a couple of years. And you know what? She was extremely thankful, never asked for anything else, and we had loads of fun thereafter and until she retired. I was glad to help.
I've never gotten a "soft story" from a provider. QB told me about her sister at various times but I always knew it was truthful and I don't think she ever mentioned it during the times we met in person.
I'm sure there are women out there who try to get sympathy by telling stories. I know of one on then-Twitter who had posted that her grandfather had passed away. Another provider I knew discussed that with me and told me she reached out to provider #1 to offer condolences but was told "my grandfather died 10 years ago, I just posted that so men would send me money and gifts".
Lying about someone passing is taking it too far. I'm not okay with that type of lie. I don't care so much if she says she's taking college classes and wants to be a nurse and it's not true. She wants me to like her more and thinks saying she has a legal career goal will do it, I shrug my shoulders. She tells me someone she cares about died and I find out she lied about it, that's a "what the fuck is wrong with you?" vibe.
Any kind of lie is taking it too far.
Here is more context of our conversation. My friend and I sometimes catch up to talk about the industry; I haven’t actually had a session with her for about three years, and in fact, she was the last Chinese girl I ever saw. Because we’re strictly friends now, she has nothing to gain from being anything but blunt with me about how she feels.
As we were talking, I was telling her about a recent encounter, and she immediately noticed that I’m falling a bit too deep into this particular girl. Having worked the scenes in HK, Singapore and USA, she gave me a brutal "wake-up call." She explained how ladies often make things up—whether intentional or not—to secure "good customers" for longer or to get better tips. She pointed out that the "going to school" or "fallen from grace" stories are standard playbooks used to create an emotional hook.
She is quite cynical about it, which I’m sure comes from her own experience with the ladies she’s met in the business. Plus, in my experience, Chinese providers typically tend to be cynical anyway. She was very direct about how powerful GFE skills can be, especially for well-reviewed ladies, and she reminded me point-blank: "You have an SO. Don’t be stupid."
Geez. This depends on culture and circumstances. In general, yes, I think many spa girls have a script. I recall the sharp pang I felt when, after spectacular sex, a spa girl told me a sob story that another spa girl had told me a week before. If it's a hook, then it's a hook.
But we all have histories, stories and rationalizations. Chronic illnesses. Mountains of debt. Sudden medical emergencies. Dire problems with relatives. Some people are dramatic and some are not.
Respect her as a person and try to hear what she's saying. If you think she's fishing, then ask her. What does she want?
And so if it is a script, what's the provider doing with the money? That's gone unanswered.
Having received, but never responded to, many sob stories, I agree and your friend is spot on.
For example, she's just been robbed, husband dumped her, baby needs new shoes, you name it!
Your Chinese friend is correctamundo!!
BTW: I have a beautiful UTR Chinese MIFL and just can't get enough!!
I’ve heard similar stories as what you mentioned. And I have to say, I’ve heard some doozies.I’ll look interested and act like I care😆.. but I tend to brush those aside.
It’s the simple one line comments that I’ll most likely to be sincere
Sure, some will run a sob story line for guys in hopes of getting a tip or even, with regulars or the incredibly gullible, hint for loans or flat out support. I don't think I've ever seen someone actually claim to have been suckered into anything but now and then someone reports they heard about someone doing so.
I've maybe heard something along the lines of having to take care of people at home (and it may well be true for some) but never once had one then ask me for help beyond the stated payment. So it really comes down to just how much someone thinks they need to take ownership of someone else's problems and to be honest that is on them. If they want to help by giving more my advice is to not think you're making a loan but just providing a gift/charity. You might be bothered some day because you hear she never had a family she was taking care of but at least you won't be confused in thinking you'll ever see the money again, or even get some special treatment in return.
I don’t think he was saying they’re trying to set up a scam to get more money from you. I think the idea is just to get you to like them more. They want you to repeat, leave a good review, and/or tip well if that’s your thing.
He’s basically saying not everything personal a provider shares with you is true. It might be a line just so you like her more. For example, I have seen a good couple dozen who say they are working on a college degree and talk about their true passion which they will one day follow. Fair chance, these are not all true.
That said, I find them mostly harmless.
Yes, like a GFE enhancement.
So you mean just conversations and "sharing part of their life" or "opening up" to someone? Okay, yes I would expect much of that to be part of the act -- why would they want to tell complete strangers or (for repeats) mere acquaintances much about their real life.
I have those types of conversations with the ladies all the time And I tell them if I happen to ask a question that seems a bit intrusive I am quite happy with no response, a non-answer or a lie, whatever makes them comfortable. I'm pretty open with them about my life but don't really expect reciprocity on that. In the end it really doesn't matter to me what the truth is as this is a fantasy that runs for the length of the appointments and when I step back out the door I would be wise to keep that in mind. Mission accomplished, good GFE session and good sex but not reality so factual basis is unimportant.
Does that mean all are fake stories? No, I am sure some of the women I've talked with have actually told me something that is true about their private lives. Some make something up (and probably tell a different story to different people). Clearly some go much farther in opening up to a client -- just as Fisher. I'm pretty sure a lot of what he has been told by the some of the escorts he has seen is very much true regarding the ladies life; a bit hard to base a long-term relationship and marriage on lies or fictions.
Aren't we all working on another degree and/or hoping to follow our true passion in life? LOL. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If she said, I'm gonna party this all away and/or I plan to suck dick for my sole income for life, would you think she were sane? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Back in the good ole' Backpage days, I might have written a day's ad like, "Funding Cardi B Show Day". Actually, I just had a day like that on a cam site... But if she is a highly reviewed, independent provider, then just assume that this is a fun means to an end.
If she has good vibes and provides good sex, I'm not too concerned with her sanity lol. If she said she was going to party it all away, I might advise that it will catch up to her in a bad way. But if she wants to responsibly suck dick as her sole income, pay her bills, invest, etc..., well, that's what I call choosing a career and being responsible. It's the assholes in this world who are not allowing escorting to be a legal profession.
Is that like, not using teeth? Lol
Taken out of context, that might be what it is lol.
Dying lying at the "responsibly suck dick"... I'd like to throw in no teeth AND lots of ball play. 🤣
Truth be told, most will "age out" of this profession. Although there are some, like Dolly Parton and Jane Fonda, who could do this until they Warren Buffett-ed out, that is not the case for most.
There are Olympians on OnlyFans! I'm a nurse. And many moons ago, I used to go, with a carload of girls, from the strip club to nursing school. And here's the cynic in me. Every porn star/ cam-girl/ stripper/ "cuddler"/ IGModel/ model/ arts major/ nursing student/ X is UTR until proven differently. 🤷🏽♀️
But we can definitely agree that the biz needs to be legalized.
I would say most fake sob stories are done to elicit sympathy/empathy/pity. And then the client feels sorry/bad and tries to help. This doesn't have to lead, but often does lead especially long term to some kind of financial help.
Although recently I hear the younger generation is skipping more and more of this game and is directly asking for money. I think it's called findom lol.
As a very cynical person, I have to say that I basically approach this with "not true until proven true". This is just a type of biz where it's harder to trust people.
It does suck if the story is real and the provider is spilling her heart out to you and you're like "yeah right" to yourself ...it really does.
My final take on this is - the moment you hear the story ask yourself how much do you really know her and how much you really trust her.
My examples and the way I took this was not about sob stories. Sob stories imply they are down on their times. Those type of stories I agree are more dangerous and often are the beginning of a money grab scam. These are more likely to happen to a repeat customer who has shown vulnerability. It’s not as common with a new customer where no attachment has been built.
Back to what was originally presented. These stories aren’t necessarily down on my luck types. Rather they are sharing something personal that shows they have dreams beyond escorting. In my experience, taking college classes because I want to be XX is rather common. Nothing sad about it. Certainly not a plot to ask for financial help. Just an attempt to connect and be liked.
Jensen referenced them and also I thought the op made a typo. Because otherwise I have no clue what a "soft story" is.
If we're just talking about random details of providers life and how they may lie about it...eh I guess?
What he described isn’t what I consider sob stories. But in his question he does refer to them as “sob stories”. But when I responded about what they are, he agreed with me. So it is a little confusing.
Sorry to call it "sob stories" before; let's call it "soft stories" instead. It fits the situation much better.
To be honest, I really believed in the story. It was my provider friend who started casting doubts in my head, and the way she analyzed it made sense to me. I just want to examine what she said, because she is so sure it is an act. It’s that specific doubt that prompted this post.
I get why my friend said what she said. I understand that stories are what get repeat customers—and I have to admit, it worked. I tip her a lot, and we’ve spent entire sessions just chatting without any sex at all. We used to go after it like most, but then it turned into chatting for 80% of the time and sex for the last 10 minutes.
Many of you might find that weird, but I actually told her: I don’t care what you do with the money. I’m fine with whatever she does, even gambling. That’s her business. I give to her because I want to, and she owes me nothing.
But it makes me wonder—when a provider is that certain that another’s "story" is just a performance, how do you distinguish the two? Or does it even matter if the "act" provides the connection you're looking for?
It’s really all an act. The better she is at fooling you, the better job she’s doing. You’re a paying customer and her job is to make everything feel as real as possible. If the main goal of her lies is to get you to feel you have a stronger connection to her and therefore like her, she’s done a great job.
That it's "all an act". These women are human beings. Occasionally they share a part of their humanity that goes beyond sexuality. I don't think they're all doing that for some malign purpose.
Or, put another way, we all share with others--we tell our friends and loved ones about the mundane and the extraordinary in our lives all the time. Is it because we just want them to like us? It's probably a part of it. Who doesn't want some understanding and maybe even some compassion and affection.
Not sure if you're reading that the way I intended. And, I can see why it might not be clear. I'm by no means suggesting every thing they are saying are lies. It can all be true, and I am sure it is in some cases. I'm more talking about them being into you. And, to keep it not so black and white, I am sure there are exceptions. But, these exceptions, are more likely to happen with repeat clients over time.
Before an escort sees you, she doesn't know for certain if she will like your personality, looks, or other aspects about you. But unless you're an ass, dangerous, or have bad hygiene, she does want you as a customer. She is prepared to put on an act. How that's done varies. Some try to be themselves and are honest, at least up until a point. Others, put on a bigger show. Regardless, it's an act.
Let's say an escort thought Tom Cruise was the hottest man under the sun and truly wanted to fuck his brains out. If given the chance to live out this dream, she's not likely to ask him to pay for it. That's because she's really into him and it's not an act. But the vast majority of us clients do not have this luxury. We are paying customers.
Escorts might love their job. They might love their clients. They might be sincere and honest for the most part. But as long as payment is required, their interest in us is more about us as paying clients. Again, not a hard and fast rule. I am sure escorts sometimes fall for their clients and it moves past the act. The exceptions, not the rule.
Back in the day (over 20 years ago) I went through a brief period when I frequented strip clubs. When it was time (with adequate tipping) for a lap dance (or just sitting with you), they all had a story, and it always some variation of the same story: abusive ex-boyfriend that is stalking them, disowned by their family, etc., ad nauseam.
It was obvious it was a come on to try to squeeze more tip money out of me.
It was also one of the main reasons I quit going to strip clubs and decided to spend my money in ways that are most enjoyable to me. Now it is a very rare occurrence when I get a sob story from a Provider.
You mean it's ALL an illusion of passion? Say it isn't so.