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Burner Phone ?
Raleighdate 1179 reads
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What are everyone's thoughts on having your burner phone connect to your wifi ? Crappy cell phone coverage makes it almost a necessary thing ?  

(serious question)
What is the threat model you have in mind?  
 - Is there someone hostile with access to the controls of your WiFi router?  
 - Is there government activity against you -- a detective, for instance?  

Your burner phone will connect to your hotel WiFI, or the airport WiFi, when you travel.  Ordinarily those are far riskier than your home WiFi, hence the initial questions.  

Using a VPN will protect your WiFI usage from non-governmental snooping, at home or away.  

My home WiFI router offers "Guest Network" as a feature; guests cannot access the local network.  I  have one set up for my burner phone to use at home, just as a bit of edtra separation.  

So, what are you actually worried about?

If you're concerned about the possibility of LE getting warrants, or just ask the telcos for information and getting it, then yes that would be a concern. I would not actually lose sleep over it though as by the time LE really got that far their will likely have more than enough evidence that it would likely just be more headache than benefit. So if that is the only concern you are probably pretty safe connecting the burner phone over your personal wifi.

 
If you concern is others in the house, perhaps with access to your home router, then again, yes but in this case I think the risks might be much higher. A lot might depend on specifics at home -- is your wife somewhat tech savvy? Maybe you have children and she manages the router's parental controls? Maybe you have a tech savvy child that likes to look at routing or is planning on getting a job related to networking or information security? Both might see it ans start asking questions -- or just blocking it.

Not too long ago,so they gonna know who you're anyway ,If you plan on  doing something you not supposed to do. They can also look at the cameras in the store at the time of purchase.And if you buy that burner phone online, they know your name ,address, and credit card number.So there's nowhere to hide these days really,so grow some ball, be a man/woman /trans (whatever) ,and get in the game. Get some reviews done so we know  you're no more 'just a troll '.

Before you vote next time ,ask the person you voting for what's his stance on sex workers/ sex industry.

It wouldn't be as accurate, but LE can map your phone to cell towers it interacts with. If your cell signal at home is poor but you have a better signal across the street in your neighbor's front yard, call from there and let them nail him!
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On the other hand, as long as your phone is on, it will be picked up by the nearby cell towers (maybe not continuously, but when turned on, off, or sending - receiving a signal). I guess there will always be a trail of dots (cell towers) that could lead back to your neighborhood and MAYBE as precise as your house.  
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Now you've got me worried ... drive to the nearest place with a lot of people traffic (McDs? Dunkin? Shopping mall?) and make all of your calls and connections from there. Turn your phone OFF before leaving to go home.

Posted By: Raleighdate

What are everyone's thoughts on having your burner phone connect to your wifi ? Crappy cell phone coverage makes it almost a necessary thing ?  

Not scared Just trying to think ahead. Google is relentless in finding info about everybody. If a girl gets into trouble weeks after you have seen her more than likely your number will be in her phone. What do you think law enforcement  
would do ?  Common sense goes a long way in life.    

OK, now that's a threat model to work on.  
You are concerned that a detective would find your hobby phone number on a compromised hooker's phone, and possibly text messages arranging a session with date, time, place, and your thank-you afterward.  Is that right?  
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OK, what do we think LE would do?  
1.  They know that you had that meeting.
2.  They do not have admissible grounds to charge you with prostitution, unless your conversations mentioned both sex acts and payment, and she did not delete the messages.
3.  VPN would not have helped, since VPN does not hide your phone number nor your SMS content -- it do only hides Internet activity.  
4.  They may try to intimidate you into admitting to solicitation, prostitution, or pimping.  
5.  They can call or text you using your phone# to do #4.  
6.  They can try to track your phone location to catch you at a future session -- doubtful since that's high effort for low reward to LE.
7.  They can subpoena call records (maybe).
8.  They can target your phone for ads or enticements to a sting, or to set up offer of sex for money and acceptance.  
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If you and she both used an internet comms app rather than texting, either she deleted the conversation(s), or she didn't; if not, LE has the content.  VPN would not have helped.  
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Other insights?  
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I frequented a lady who would begin each session by watching me delete my text history with her.  Smart gal!

Are we talking about scoring some pussy or a covert CIA operation...

Rafl27 reads

Maybe some of these partners require that level of expertise lol.

Posted By: SinCitySinner
Re: What are we talking here?  
Are we talking about scoring some pussy or a covert CIA operation...

Can anyone present any evidence of an increase in LE activity in the US?

since Monday, or a broader time frame?  Lol

Thanks for the input. Its always better to consider your options before you do them.

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