I'll just say this: 6 is nice; 7 is attractive, 8 is really hot, 9 is model material, etc.

You all know this.

I guess what I was expressing, in light of hearing how younger guys are so cocky and clumsy that they get altogether banned, was that many women (regardless of age!!!!) earn 8s, 9s, 10s for appearance, because one of our noble older guys had a bit of bonding with a dame and felt like a million bucks hence she's a Once in a Lifetime. Yes, it's all subjective. But some dames get twenty reviews like that.

This entire forum, when it is a sharing of honest, accurate information, can be extremely valuable, especially in an era of corruption. So, I'm just trying to help breed that culture of Objective, honest, accurate sharing of information. Sleep tight. All in love.

I think it is important to be honest and give accurate ratings on providers, especially in the case of appearance (no YMMV factor)

There is a lot of grade inflation on appearance especially on older providers that gave great performance.  Also there are cases of a reviewer deliberately lower the appearance rating only because of bad performance by the provider.

I used to rely on the overall looks and average filter to screen providers.  No more.  I now pay more attention to reviews by reliable reviewer that I trust.

Keanu,

You make some very astute observations.  I echo your, and GirlCrazy's sentiment.

A lot of these valuations are subjective, and it is rather difficult to get consistency.

Rest up, and feel well.

Peace,
- B T

Glad you've mellowed a bit.  I resisted the urge to reply in your initial post because I "think" I might be able to empathize with some of your feelings...even though, as you might surmize by my handle, I'm not one of the younger guys---doesn't mean I don't have a flat stomach, & doesn't mean all young guys do either.  

Without elaborating too much (hopefully), here are a few things as I happen to see them...& only as they come to mind, not in order of importance.  

But I will say one thing to start..any gal is completely free to choose who she wants to do business with, for whatever her reasons are.  She doesn't have to justify them to anyone, just as none of us have to justify such choices.  Does that seem kinda unfair?  Sure, sometimes it could...but honestly, doesn't it seem that 99% of the guys who find ot objectionable are those who would be affected by it?  Not to critisize, because that's human nature that it be that way.  My only reason for mentioning is to state my opinion that those "affected" by the exclusion usually make a bigger deal out of it than it probably really is.  Again...I understand this is human nature---can't change it & wouldn't want to, just trying to add perspective, admitedly from my POV.

But is she entitled to choose or not?  Obviously she is!  I've always made it a practice to state perhaps more than necessary on on initial inquiry...age, race, hight, weight, etc, etc.  Why?  I'm selfish...if there's anything about me that might make her uncomfortable it won't be a good time.  Bad deal for her? Yes.  But worse for me because I paid for the tickets to the performance!

Have I always gotten positive, or at least explanatory responses...such as the one Cheridan posted?  Absolutely not!  But that's no big deal either.  With so many "fish in the water" what's the point of worrying about those who won't take the bait, or the reason that they don't?  

Hope you & all who read this will take it in the spirit in which it was written.

I'm deeply sorry, thanks for being here

I stayed out of that whole melee, entirely. I realized my own ignorance on the topic was all I had to offer.

You, however, are one of the finest people I have not quite yet had the opportunity to meet in person. No sane individual could ever question your honesty, sincerity and well-known reputation for integrity.

I'm sorry you were subjected to the mistreatment of the inane, ignorant masses. And I appreciate your presence here.

riker

Just got to this thread late, and would ordinarily let "sleeping dogs lie," but wanted to add one additional perspective.  

It's unfair to characterize as AGE what is really a difference in MINDSET (a psychographic rather than a demographic).  I would say that the dimension that defines the differences discussed here and in the thread below, is whether a client seeks a physical connection, or a more human connection.  You can be in either group, regardless of your age, and both groups are present on this board

While it's possible to make generalizations that more young people would be approaching this activity from a physical standpoint, and older people MIGHT be seeking a more total "human connection" (or GFE), it is an over simplification in both cases.  It depends a lot on the maturity, personality type and experiences of those involved.  I've known some very mature guys in their 20's, and I've known some guys in their 40's that were examples of arrested development.  As Riker said below, "The appreciation comes from the experience" and there are those that go through life and learn nothing from their experiences, and there are those who begin at an early age to evolve based on their experiences.  

While the performance and appearance ratings should provide enough latitude to measure both types of provider experience, the tendency is for a good rating in one area to spill over and overstate the other area- a very human characteristic that psychologists call transferance (she's pretty, therefore her performance must have been good too, or vice versa).  Similarly, those seeking a more human connection (GFE) might subconsciously downgrade the provider on appearnce if she kept more distance between herself and her clients than was expected.

So rather than ban those whose only crime is their youth, I think we'd be better off to realize which camp we fall into, and be cognizant of our personal bias as we both read and write reveiws.  Providers can easily ask a few questions to "qualify" a potential client to make sure that both parties will enjoy the encounter.  But I suggest digging a little deeper than just asking somebody's age.  Similarly, as others have said, clients can use the tools available to them, even if they have to read between the lines, to see if they share the same mindset as the previous reviewer.

Young or old is not the issue and should not qualify or disqualify anybody from seeing a provider.  That determination should be based on their maturity, the attitude they bring with them, and if they are respectful and appreciative of the shared intimacy they hope to receive- or conversely, the physical vulnerability of the provider whose company they enjoy.  

All guys understand the physical side of sex, because we learn that first.  The real test is how far beyond that basic level do we evolve as we gain experience, and that translates into what we bring with us when we see a provider.  Women, especially providers, are much more tuned-in to sensing this about a man than you might think, and they tend to make a quick mental determination as to where you stand on this measure.  If you want to be welcome everywhere you go, just be a YOUNG guy that understands that difference.  You'll be ahead of 90% of the men in the world, regardless of age.  



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I agree with you that the ratings on both looks and performance  are probably somewhat overstated in general.  Why do I make that statement?  A number of the men have stated that they will not write negative reviews.  Other men have stated that they will not post a negative review of a lady with a number of good reviews because they assume it was just a case of YMMV.  Also I think that some men do not want to hurt a lady's feelings or business even if they had a bad time.  Unfortunately I can't apply that premise to any specific provider because Provider A may be overrated and Provider B may be accurately reviewed.  I am not even sure that the overstatement relates more to older women vs younger women.  All I can do is look at her website, examine the reviews and reviewers and talk to the lady.  

I also agree with Greywolf.  If a lady does not want to see me for whatever reason I would rather know it before I go to see her.  I want to have a good time and there are too many fish in the water.  If they do not want to see me for any reason there is always somebody who will be happy to see me.

I'm not even sure how old she is, but she was far better looking than even her pictures show.

Cheryl was one of the hottest models during the 1970's and early 80's.  

I had an opportunity of meeting her during a recording session at Warner Bros.  

If memory serves me right she was born on June 25, 1947 in
Breckenridge, MN.




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http://extratv.warnerbros.com/dailynews/extra/05_02/05_08a.html

I am sorry that you have gotten that perception.  I was attempting to respond to several earlier posters that felt older providers were being rated too high on appearance.  I was attempting to say that I had not seen any pattern that would lead me to believe that reviews of older ladies were any more likely to be inflated than reviews of younger ladies. Yes, ladies in their 40's can be 9's or 10's.