I get regular checkups about every 2-3 months and I'm selective on who receives BBBJ's.  And now for the question to be reversed, how often do the clients get checked out?  More times than not, men are carriers of STD's and never have any symptoms, whereas women are more commonly known to have symptoms and know something is up.  Anybody who plays in this hobby, even as safe as they may think they are should also be responsible and take the time to get checked.  There are many clinics listed in your yellow pages who are very discreet and anonymous, some even can charge your insurance company for "cholesterol" tests.  So be responsible and unselfish and get tested regularly, be safe and have fun!

Yes, you can call me a hypocrite because I have seen providers who do bbbj's but no more. I know several people who have caught things this way and will not be doing it any more myself....

I agree wholeheartedly with Jake. I think that while TER is an excellent, well organized site that they should re-evaluate this idea of only giving 9's and 10's to bbbj girls.

I would think you'd be encouraging the girls being safe --for their sake and the sake of the client! --not encouraging them to do unsafe acts!

I have jumped on the bandwagon. After what I saw happen to several people (yes, even my patients) I know I say NO MORE BBBJ's.

G D (a doctor who should have known better)

i've been flamed pretty hard in the past for my views on safe sex, but my opinion is an informed one, i have a right to it, and i won't stop talking about it.

the only COMPLETELY safe sex is NO sex. latex condoms do not prevent disease, in fact unbroken human skin is a BETTER barrier than latex against viral infection. condoms do offer an extra protective barrier and they do encapsulate the semen, but comdoms can leak, break, or fall off. if any part of your groin touches any moisture from the woman, around the condom, the risk for contracting bacterial disease like gonorrhea is the same as if you had no condom at all.

oral sex is very low risk for venereal and bloodborne disease. not only does stomach acid kill virus, as sasha mentioned, but there are also proteins in saliva that are estimated to kill up to 90% of the viruses they encounter.

can you guess the number of lesbian women, whose only risk factor is unprotected sex with female partners, have been infected with the HIV virus? zero. Documented cases of HIV/Hep transmitted via any oral sex? zero. I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN'T HAPPEN! i'm saying the risk is extremely low. Sexually transmitted HIV and Hepatitis B infection occur when a man ejaculates or leaves a significant amount of blood inside a vaginal or anal cavity.

"safe sex" people: show me medical information ANYWHERE that says that, of people who engage in sex with multiple partners, unprotected oral significantly increases risk - and i will never leave the house again without a condom you want safe sex? stop doing it.

please - go to the center for disease control or national institute of health websites (cdc dot gov - niddk dot nimh dot org, i think) OR check out the link i've provided below that has Q&A from Dr ryan kull of columbia university. read vonnegut's "welcome to the monkey house" to find out what happens when we legislate sex without pleasure

finally - at the risk of getting myself in trouble, as lisaMN did recently on this board, i am a biologist. i worked in a microbiology lab for seven years doing DNA research, specifically around the action of HIV inside human cells. i am a teacher, certified by the occupational safety and health administration, to teach bloodborne pathogen safety to healthcare professionals. and i am in the middle of a career change, just completed a bachelors in nursing and will be working as an RN soon.

what does that prove? nothing. i'm just as full of shit as the next guy. i know many will still disagree vehemently; i only hope that you will recognize that i haven't come by these opinions lightly, and that i have thought with the big head as well as with the little one.

This is gradually becoming a re-thread.  

The rating system I think is fair.   If you do special favors, you get a higher rating.

Now, HOW you interpret that is your concern.  No one is mandating unsafe sex ... The rating just reflects that you do something special.  

There are numerous misconceptions about STD, and HIV.  Do your homework, and do what you feel is most comfortable for you.



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Consistency in Reviews & Ratings - Staff you rule!

I think TER Staff has done a wonderful job in attempting to create some consistency in the overall performance Rating.

The fact remains that some will do more than others.  And it is not fair to those who do more, to be slighted.  According to the rating guidelines, a perfect score of 10 is for somebody who provides an incredible experience where almost anything goes (DFK, BBBJ, Multiple-Pops, and Greek).

If you enjoyed your session that's great.   You may want to ad your personal commentary about how great the session was in the juicy details.  

Sad, but true -- RULES are RULES!

The link below (found via one given above) leads to the only hint that I have yet been able to find on the web, that stats might be out there somewhere on the incidence of non-HIV STD transmission via BBBJ to the recipient thereof.  As far as it goes, this hint is a relatively reassuring one regarding everything but Herpes.  Elsewhere I've looked, info on the (extremely low) HIV risk seems to drown out the info on the rest of the STD risk picture, except for the occasional note that these other risks do exist.  But the Q&A linked here is rather old, and it gives no actual numbers whatsoever on the risks for any of these other STDs.  

Could you quantify your anecdotal experience for us, Doctor, with due caveats regarding the representative character of your sample?  I tend to doubt it, since you probably would not have a fix on how many patients enjoyed BBBJs with impunity.

Does this mean every lady with a 10 in performance provided BBFS?  

I've had emails from gent's that have tried to give me a 10 in performance and it was rejected.  Now I'm thankful if this is truly the case.

Wow