I have on occassion negotiated a bb price from providers that i really enjoy seeing regularly. If they weren't comfortable they wouldn't have agreed to it. So why is it any elses business if i want to experience great natural sex with someone who i seem to click with? People you all need to mind your own damn business and let the rest of us alone. There is nothing better than sex without headaches.

If you'd keep this to yourself & not post nonsense like the op. Were you personally "offended" by previous retorts about this subject on an anonymous discussion board ?!

The mind fucking boggles.

Because we are all swimming in the same pond you idiot. You aren't hobbying in a vacuum. Promiscuous sex is the ultimate game of telephone.

Even though I play safely 100% of the time, there is still the ocassional mishap - condom slips off, it breaks, etc. Idiots like you are the ones who make those rare ocurrences cause for concern. I don't want to see YOU, and I don't want to see any man she has seen either. God only knows what she or he or you may be carrying.

If she is letting you BB, she is letting others....where have they been? With street hookers, with the girl at the bar? Who knows!!!!!

My guess is YOU have nothing to lose because you already have a serious STD

if you are stupid enough to have unprotected sex with any one (even a civilian) then you put all the rest of the ladies you see after that at risk for whatever STD you already have and whatever she has too.  

So yes, I and everyone else want to know who you are having BB sex with so as to avoid both YOU AND HER to avoid exposing ourselves to STD's or worse.

bb is ANYTHING BUT sex without headaches!  either way, i'm sure both parties feel like they're clean but realistically, there is opportunity for too much to go wrong. realistic grown ups realize this.

i'm confused as well, are you trying to keep this private?  posting about it isn't exactly on the down low.  the only one telling your business it seems, is you. (unless i've missed a previous post that this started in, then my apologies).

And if both parties keep their mouths shut no one needs to know. So which one of you couldn't manage to do that?

You're really going to have a headache when your test comes back positive for ghonorhea, chlamydia, syphilus or HIV.  But that's not what we're concerned with.  When you take the risk on infecting yourself, you risk infecting other people. Thanks for warning me about yourself.

Joy

This brilliant individual is probably not a troll but dead serious.  Just one of a too large minority who believes their personal desires and preferences are all that matters.

The two questions I would have for him in return are:

Why do you feel the need to post this on here?  Are you tired of others telling you and your partner that you are not too bright?

May I borrow your coffee cup to drink from?  I don't think I have teberculosis even though I work in a sanitorium.  I am sure you will not mind, will you?

Hahahahahahahhaha lmfao.....no way he is fucking serious!!!!!

Eventhough we use a cover, most of us still enjoy DATY. The danger is up front and personal.

Why do you care if he has BB sex with the same women that you have protected sex with? Are you not confident in your protection? And if not, why do you participate in the hobby, given that we cannot trust anyone to tell the truth about who they BB?

If there were no diseases to be had by fucking around with no Jim Cap on........seriously no one would care....however there is that small concern like HIV...I mean nothing serious to consider its just the virus that causes AIDS.....we all should have no concerns.


Honestly....if there was a magic wand to wave over your dick and her pussy so that any diseases you are passing back and forth could only be contained by the two of you....that would be wonderful.

If there were a way to ensure the only two people in both of your large pool of sex partners who were bare backing were just you and her.....that would be wonderful.

If there was a were a way to sit the both of you down and really explain how unsafe it is to bareback and how that tricky little three letters may indeed cause your dick and her pussy to rot the hell off.....it would be wonderful.

.....and regardless to what you may ALREADY know or be in denial of....we know you are going to continue to raw dog bc hey it feels good and you are a grown ass man...and she is a grown ass woman.

At the end of the day the only person I can protect is ME. It may sound selfish.....but it is the honest truth. No one can stop you from your deep denial of the fact that you are risking your life over a piece of ass.


Carry on with your regularly scheduled ignorance...........

There's no way we can know who is BBing who so we use protection. If we're not confident in the protection, then we shouldn't be engaging in this hobby. Same goes for DATY and BBBJ.

You are right it is none of my business.  Furthermore I could care less because the additional risk to me from you having unprotected sex is very small compared to the baseline risk that already exist and I accept, especially if the lady I see uses protection in seeing you and I use protection in seeing her. The reason is the added risk decrease multiplicative with each degree of separation in this pool we all swim in. Hobbyist are just a tiny fraction of people swimming in our pool.

There should be  need or reason for anyone to know whether you had bareback sex if they assume every person in this hobby represents a health threat, practices unsafe sex, never been tested, and take the precautions that is compatible with the risk they  are willing to accept . For some that risk may be too high and should not be Hobbyist or a Provider

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Give specific instances where you or provider "X" have gone bb and say goodbye.

If you kiss and BBBJ, you might have met him or someone like him. He is using an alias so you and I and everyone else will probably never know who it is or who he/she has seen. And you or I might have put our mouth on his dick...

Allure, if you allow DATY or BBBJ  you might have already met him and not know it. Unless people change those things...we are meeting these people and everyone they have slept with. I know it ramps up the ante, but if we all are doing things uncovered except for PV/PA sex, we are all at risk and it's only a matter of time that we run into someone infected. It's the risk we all take knowing the consequences.

You know that's not going to happen. If that were the case, I'd go out on a limb and say that over 25% of people on here would have to say good-bye. And I am only guessing as I have no stats to back this up. But I am not sticking my head in the sand either.

I will guarantee you that if a member speaks specifically of going BB, he/she will be banned.  Maybe not in the past, but going forward there is no doubt.

Is if something is nobody else's business; then don't mention it to them.

I do not disagree with that at all.

You promised to go bat shit on some, what was the word, douche bag?  I'd guess that the OP is baiting you.  There is no need to flip.  You can either trust me, or PM me for more details.  In the meantime, if you want to live up to that reputation of psycho hooker on mean pills, I suppose I could be as easy on you as on the OP.


Besides, I feel that it's important for people to realize that BBFS happens.  It was the cause of my birth and I'd guess several others here.  Granted, mom isn't/wasn't a whore, but it happens.  Your lack of knowledge of it doesn't change that.  In fact, I've heard of a hobbyist and provider instance of it.  So, take precautions as if every person you see regularly engages in the activity...or don't.  But, it is what it is.

Nowhere near enough to set me off. I know it  goes on...I was kind of adding to the banning scenario...but why even do that...read my A & B points...not going to do anything. I tend not to see heavy duty mongers who may or may not have indulged. No one is perfectly safe from seeing a BBer. I like to shave down the odds a tad. But this is by no means a reason to get bent out of shape. I like to pick my battles.

as far as I can tell, they are violated, from using aliases to attack people, to using foul language, to being "mean" lol, to outing people - even occasionally on the boards, without consequence in many if not most cases.

And I'd be interested in seeing where this policy exists in writing

The only thing I am aware of is that you are not allowed to mention BB or anything the review screeners might assume to be BB in a review...

Others BBing (FS) raises the general level of risk, relative to BBBJ or DATY, the rest of the general population.

If it's none of our business, then don't make it ours by posting

Liter is probably right in her assessment of the number of folks who have partaken of BBFS.

The OP is an asshat... as if that is any kind of news.

Treatment of another recent poster boasting of BB CIP had the alias flipped. I play safe but, want to know who the OP may have had contact with so I can use the info as part of my provider selection process.

That was a case of actual BBFS, where this is someone jerking your chain.  One is clearly a bad thing; the other is just misguided humor.  You may not appreciate his attempt to be amusing, but this is not worthy of flipping IMHO

Thank you for for the clarification, little phil.

Train wreck in progress...

...their opinions on this subject and they've all said different versions of the same thing, that being there is no amount of money that a client can offer that would make them not use appropriate protection for regular sex. Even my ATF said she would straight up walk out on me if I ever even suggested it and I've seen her around a dozen times. Why not just ask the provider if she'd be comfortable with you bringing a loaded gun with the safety off into bed. Unreal!

Enjoy (safely!) WIT

they HAVE done it with others!  Maybe yesterday, maybe an hour ago!

You sir are an idiot! I'm so tired of the excuses why you want bareback.

NO NO NO-HELL NO!

One of my favorite long time guests who I have known for more then 9yrs now asked about it.  I told him in no uncertain terms that it would never be an option and not to ask again if he wished to continue to visit.  He hasn't asked again and yet we have some of the hottest sessions ever without the need of going there, which in my opinion is Russian roulette.  There are only so many chambers in that gun before something is going to come flying out, be it a deadly shot or a misfire that only provides a small amount of shrapnel that will need to be explained due to DR bills.  Take care and stay safe.

Also to the originator, if you do not want people to judge your actions, THEN DO NOT BRING THE INFO TO A PUBLIC DISCUSSION BOARD!!!  If you hadn't brought it here then this would never have become a topic for discussion!

“there is no amount of money that a client can offer that would make them not use appropriate protection for regular sex.”

I suspect if one offer a million $ most providers would.  Those who won’t probably are not able to comprehend the magnitude of the risk and the limitation of protection afforded with a condom.  Condoms are only 85 to 97% effective in prevent STDs.  Assuming condoms are 95% effective about 60 protected sexual contacts would have the same risk as one unprotected event. (Yes  Sage we are all playing Russian roulette and the number of times you pull the trigger is also important as well as the number of loaded chambers in the gun).  Hence a lady who charges $300 per protected sexual contact and earning just $18,000 has assumed the same risk as one unprotected sexual contact.  That a hell of lot less than one million dollars. Also one should consider that most STD’s are treatable for a few hundred dollars.  With respect to the most feared STD, HIV,  it is difficult to catch by heterosexual sex(less than 1/500 coital act) even with unprotected sex with HIV+ partner and the chance your partner has HIV in the US is less than 1/100 resulting in a risk factor of 1/50,000 for having unprotected sex with a partner of unknown HIV status.  It may surprise many to learn that probably more people die each year from cervical and oral cancers resulting from sexual transmitted HPV infection than from heterosexual transmission of HIV. Protection is only 50% effective in presenting HPV infection.

I am not advocating unprotected sex I am just pointing out the fallacy in “there is no amount of money” to take the risk of unprotected sex. Most ladies are taking that risk for less than 20K.


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like bbfs? ewww