Just curios but are you that butt ugly,scared of girls,or have absolutely no personality?

No normal guy in his twenties can get "all the pussy he wants" unless he doesn't really want that much pussy.

Like you, I got plenty of pussy in my youth, but I was and still am a fucking horndog that could never get enough. I have been fortunate enough in my life to have plenty of disposable income during much of my youth to be able to afford to see lots of hookers. To most normal guys in their twenties there is no such thing as "enough pussy"  Even if I were able to pull three different civvie girls in a day, I would still have wanted a fourth.

so why do you pay for it now? Are you that "butt ugly, scared of girls, or have absolutely no personality", or are you just old with no game left?  That question is every bit as fair as the one you asked of the young guys, but not quite as insulting as your question to them. I promise to try harder next time.

FWIW my first "hooker" was at 15, by the age of 18 I had fucked hookers in a half a dozen different countries, it didn't have the slightest impact on my ability to score with civvies. Then or now.

Not everyone had the charisma you seem to embody (I hope you get the sarcasm here) and the notion that there must be something wrong with a man who seeks out P4P at whatever age is the flip side of the coin that says a woman who provides must also somehow have something wrong with her. Lighten up and try not to be so self-impressed.

Majority of men under 30 are still trying to develop a career, escalating the corporate ladder, some of them are even new college graduates making somewhat great money in their first job, they are under pressure and don't have time to deal with all the drama, the time spent, and the emotional expenditures (plus financial) of trying to either date or sleep with a girl.. Think about the dinners, the flowers, gifts, activities etc until she decides is the right time..  
So that is when we come into the equation, fantasy, same results, no strings attached, no follow up calls, text messages, drama, needy or clingy attitude.  
You get the same amount of fun, less stress, less expenditures.. Plus maybe we can teach them a couple of things so when they have a real relationship they can wow the girl...

I just love these guys who think they were "all that" in their youth, and look down their nose at other guys who "have to" pay for it, but still pay for it themselves.

If a young guy is a loser for paying for it, so is the old guy who is supposed to be smarter with more experience.

regardless of age. Has nothing to do with how much game or no game a guy has.  

fat,old hookers GA and man it must be great to be you lol.And why do I pay for it now,yeah it,s because no 25 or even hot 35 yr. old is going to fuck my old ass for free and don't even try to tell me your fucking the young ones for free GA if your not paying for it one way your paying for it another lol.
  Also you must have been one horny, butt ugly rich kid lol. Good for you bro!

we all know why girls of any age go into p4p it's for the bank for crying out loud,simple.

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When you have no point,  insult.

Even if it was just the cover charge and your drink, well some may be lucky enough for her to buy the drink, then she's paying.

But you ignored the reason why quite a few men who can attract "free" pussy pay for it instead.  It's called NSA for a reason.  I was married when I was 25 to a woman that I had already lived with for four years.  I was looking for some strange by the time I was 28 or 29.  Back then it was streetwalkers but eventually it evolved to escorts and agency girls all of whom will take your money, rock your world and then go away.  It's not always about being able to "attract" a woman.  It's more often about keeping the one you've got at home while having a little fun on the side.  Affairs and bar pickups are a huge risk.  Simply paying for it is much less of a risk.

Only the ones that are fat and old.

So at what age did you become a loser that had to start paying for it?

As for me I've been paying for it one way or another my whole life, but I am not the one complaining about it, or putting other guys down, regardless of age, for doing the very same thing I am. Just because you don't see the hypocrisy in your post doesn't mean that the rest of us don't.

and yes it is great to be me. I fuck all the 20n somethings I want without a care in the world, yes life is great, but if you begrudge the fact that some young guys can afford to do this, your life must not be quite so great. Does putting down the young guys make you feel better about yourself? Somehow, I doubt it, and I bet you scored 4 touchdowns in high school, just like Al Bundy, how is your life selling women's shoes? lamo

Geez, you would have been the last one whose sensitivities I thought would have been bruised. I posted a thread a bit ago about when I became in your words a loser though I feel as if I won by coming into p4p.

I like my part time gig.

hell not going to tell you how great the rest of my life has been right now that would really just piss you off I guess?

And you're finishing with casual slights and cheap shots. So aside from displaying defensiveness and put downs did you contribute?

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offensive or if you have just a bit of ego or brains simply have said. I regard myself as being a decent enough looking guy that has been successful with women but because I just cannot get enough, or I prefer the kind of sex I can get with providers or I am or was in the military so no time to meet someone etc.,etc.

"Just curios but are you that butt ugly,scared of girls,or have absolutely no personality"

I don't see any way of sugar coating words like that to be anything but offensive to those they were directed at.

and if you can take offense at me ever having said anything about "old fat hookers" I can certainly call you out for the "condescending and disdainful" way you called out the young guys here. to borrow Chauncey's words.

you want as long as it does not go to regards of integrity with out there being any factual basis. So if you or any other want to refer to me as as dumb fuck losing asshole go ahead and do so. It's the hypocrisy that really gets me from you and others here on the board.

It's not even that I was getting laid more than an average amount in my 20s.  It just never occurred to me to go find a hooker.  Oddly, though, I recall reading James Michener's "Hawaii" when I was about 16 and there was a scene in which a boy that age was taken by his father to a hooker for his first sexual experience.  I remember wishing someone would do that for me.
Later, when I was first married, I decided even when the sex began to dry up I would stay faithful.  My choice.  Once I left it was "World of Hookers" for me.
And, hh, I, too, found the way the question was phrased to be condescending.  I don't look down on anyone who goes to see a hooker, no matter what age.  Some young guys are just socially inept, or suck at the bar scene, or aren't good looking enough to get the kind of girl they're interested in fucking.  So what?
Remember when everybody wanted to be Joel

or don't you consider


"Just curios but are you that butt ugly,scared of girls,or have absolutely no personality"

putting someone down? If this is a compliment, I would hate to see you putting someone down.

Now you have moved from being a hypocrite to being a flat out liar, but your lie is still here for everyone to see.

...so I don't know what other men look like, but if I remember my youth correctly, there were a lot of butt ugly guys back then who weren't getting any. I assume that eventually, when they could afford it, they'd have a few visits. Next time you get groceries look around and see how many truly attractive people there are in the world. Most people are drab and listless.

For some guys it can make them into slefish lovers because when visiting a hooker we are always on, fun, funny, sexy or acting sexy, doing just about everything he wants regardless of our needs.  

and when did I say that my comments may not be offensive to some possibly butt ugly,socially awkward 20 something year old. So far if there are any of those out there they have not commented that is a reason why that have chosen to p4p so maybe they do not exist. Yet down below are some well answered comments from those who for reasons of their own have chosen to p4p at a younger age which in my original question was not phrased to say that was a bad thing just that I did not choose to do it then and gave a reason why.

so there is a lot to be said for longevity!  lol

and they weren't any of the things you listed as to the "why". They just had a fantasy to be with an older, hot lady who knew what she was doing.

And the ones in their early 30s were oh so much fun.

Steph

and I doubt you'll slow down much!

xoxo,

Steph

I  was amazed while I was there in Feb. and March to see so many young guys (not sure of their ages, but some looked like they were college kids) who were also good looking or at least decent enough to get laid for free back home.
They were there for several good reasons:
1) the girls are insanely hot and the scene of 60 or 70 or them packed into a hotel bar ripe for the fucking is like an aphrodisiac not matter what your age.  It's basically a sport-fucking vacation.
2) several of them said the girls back home were shallow and money grubbing and if you didn't have a killer car and fat bank account you weren't getting anywhere.  That's not to say the Ticas aren't shallow and money  grubbing at times.  They're just grubbing for a lot less money.
3) they're sick of the drama and bullshit of the dating game, so even if they could get laid back home it's simpler just to "pay them to leave," as our patron saint Charlie said.

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my being a insensitive,sarcastic, asshole which I know I can be. Without a doubt I am no better than any of you here and especially when it comes to any of us who have chosen to p4p at any age or from any walk of life. In my messed up mind I was really just asking a question,why did you start at a younger age? Please do not confuse this with my kissing ass or trying to make up here but it was not truly my intent to offend, well at least not this much.

and also observed hundreds of mongers in Costa Rica.  The M&G crowd is mostly older and few are good looking but there are some (besides me, of course, lol1).  In Costa Rica the variety is much greater.  Guys are young, old, handsome, ugly and everything in between.
The desire to fuck hot pussy knows no boundaries.

Join the club, lol.  At least you saw the light and manned up.  Not sure that'll help you with GaG though.  Good luck with that! LMAO

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Working really long hours as associates in law firms or analysts in investment banks.  They make good money, and have some $$$ left over every month after paying off the school loans, they have no time to date, so they go to escorts.  It scratches the itch, doesn't take much time or effort and it's NSA...  I bet some providers in major cities like NYC see a few of these guys from time to time...

I called you a "flat out liar" and I stand by my words.

When you make an OP that starts out by being "condescending and disdainful"  not my words, but accurate. When you start an OP that way you shouldn't be surprised at what you get in return.

and you can give it a rest any time you like, or not. Either way I will be here for as long as you'd like to continue this.

For the record, when I am rude and obnoxious, I don't deny being so. I embrace my rudeness like a badge of honor, especially when I am right about what I am saying, which is ALL of the time of course.lol My point is, if you are going to be an asshole be an asshole, quit fucking waffling about it. It doesn't make you look like any less of an asshole, it just makes you look like a lying asshole, which is a thousand times worse.

That's my sideways way or saying "ok post" If you were anyone else I might say "good post", but let's not get carried away here. lol

The "hobby" is a great way of taking care of your physical needs without involving emotions, either yours or the women you see, and is a great way for a man of any age to "take a break" without having to beat his meat everyday.

It's not really that hard to explain, you actually did a decent job of it.

Now please go fuck yourself before I start getting all nice and shit.

Well I'm in my 30s but Back in college  I hooked up with a different girl every few weeks / months to a few years. Most of it long term.  And it's a lot of drama.  you fight you make up you fuck and you enjoy while it lasts.  

I just can't find the time to worry about why other men pay to see providers LMAO.  

I'll give you one guess who will be the coolest. lmao

And yes I am rude,obnoxious and apparently condescending and disdainful to boot which for those I offended including Chaunce and yourself I have already below apologized for. I said what I said and do not deny it but the fact is if there are fat,ugly women in this world then there surely are butt ugly,socially awkward young guys and that is just a fact even by your own words concerning women, and that's no lie lol.

You know damn well we both hate it.  You owe me a shot of Don Julio

I'm also very immature and plan on holding onto it.  You'll have to pry it from my cold, dead fist.

I raise my glass full of vodka and salute you...*clink

had I started hobbying back then I probably wouldn't have wasted time with some of the wildebeasts i banged back then. I almost wish I would've found the hobby back then, I probably wouldn't have wound up in some of the LTR's I wound up in, just because I wanted some steady pussy.

"...fantasy, same results, no strings attached, no follow up calls, text messages, drama, needy or clingy attitude."  

GaG has that one ten times over.

They want to get laid, can't get the hot chicks and get someone lesser and then bitch about it. At least some chick took pity on your lame ass and fucked you.

Yes +1!

I would have responded earlier, but naturally i was out drinking.

The reason you could only get those "wildebeasts" is because you are a wildebeast yourself.  This profession is made for men like you who feel they deserve better but have nothing other than money to lure the hot chicks and have had to settle in real life before finding this little corner of the world.