guy gets to your place - lil small talk - off to the bedroom

'why dont you get comfortable' you say -
'naw, im gonna pass' he says 'nothing personal' -
'ok, well i would appreciate a 3rd of the rate' you say -
'nah, heres 40' he says.

now where do providers get to rate the hobbyist? -
what a total rip-off!

He did not take anything from you, offered reasonable consideration for the time and was not overtly rude. Perhaps he could feel that it was not going to work out.

IMO this is not a ripoff. Unpleasant for both of you but nobody took anything.

In my business people pay for my time and for my services.  I loose a lot when ther is a no show.  I hate it so much and so when I have had to be a no show at my barber I pay full price for what i didn't ge because I figure that he like me cannot likely fill the slot on the spur of the moment.  He is, unfortunately, out the tip I always give when I do get the cut.

So if I were the client,I would pay the $ for the time that she cannot sell to another.

On the other hand.  I rarely charge my clients for time they missed (only repeat slackards) because I consider it bad P.R. to do that even though I'm out the money.  I figure it will come back to me in kind, but I do make sure that they aree aware of the missed appointment.

So if I were the provider, I'd either decline to accept the $ or return a portion of it.

These are business decisions and your choice of action will reflect on your future relations (obviously more at stake for the provider than the client) but will also help you sleep at night.

If you had decided, after meeting with a client for the first time, that it wasn't going to work out (he was repulsive, rude, just gave off a bad vibe, etc.), would you compensate him for his lost time? Hmmm?

Don't forget.. Time is the product.

Would girl compensate guy?

Scenario:  
guy schedules appt -
guy arrives at place -
guy gives $$$ for time -
girl doesnt want to fullfill expectations -
girl pays guy $$$ to leave -
guy is 'compensated' $$$ (thats pretty good) -


This scenario:
girl agreed to $$$, not 4 dimes and a penny -
girl gives guy time -
girl feels ripped off -

(even if guy didnt use the time, guy still purchased the time.)

True though, at least guy left something. Now girl can jumbo size her happy meal!

Obviously was not going to return.

And let's speculate for a moment here. I just had a phone call from a regular client requesting an appointment today at 11am.  I know he will show, he is a sweetheart, and I know he will pay. But I turned it down, because I already have an appointment with a new client, at noon.  I do not stack appointments.  Now, if my noon appt doesn't show, have I lost? You bet I have. My noon is supposed to be two hours... but let's say that I've *only* lost the $250 I would've had if I'd taken the appointment with my regular. I've still lost.  And $40 wouldn't go far towards making that up to me, to my mind.

Now I have never turned a client away once he arrived at my place, except for two gentlemen who were determined to proceed with things ... *ahem*... minus protection. They were thrown out on their keisters.  Other than that, I do not think that most of us make it a practice to regularly turn gentlemen away at the door.  For me at least, by the time I've given you the information as to my specific location, I've already decided whether or not I am comfy seeing you... and your *looks* are absolutely irrelevant to me.

Unless she blatantly lied... ie: posted fake pictures, or pictures that were terribly inaccurate of herself... I do not think there is an excuse for a guy to do this and leave this way. There is enough information on all of these review sites, that surely he could do his research and determine ahead of time if this is an ok match... not to mention perhaps a phone conversation, email conversation ahead of time... this should all be determined *before* you walk into the door, by BOTH parties. Or at least he could've given her half her fee. Barring that, if he were nervous or whatever... he could've easily asked to meet for a drink sometime with no committment on either party. Now I don't know if I personally would've done that... but at least he'd be communicating that he is nervous and unsure if he wants to proceed.

For me, to take a one hour appointment... I have to shower, get dressed, get myself all prettied up.. say one hour of time for that. Then I drive to my incall location, which is usually about 20-25 minutes from my home. (I do not *stay* at the hotels I use.)  Then I set the room up with candles, etc, etc... another 20 minutes or so.  Thus you've already used up *at least* two hours of my time, not counting email prep, screening, etc.  So I really do feel that at least HALF my fee if you slacked on checking me out ahead of time, is more than fair.

And if, for some reason... (I cannot forsee ANY reason I would ever do this once a gentlemen arrived to see me. BEFOREHAND, yes.. not then.) I did decide to forgo an appt and ask a gent to leave. No, of course I would not pay him for my time. He is paying ME here, not vice versa.

I recently had an appointment for me and a g/f to go to Red Door salon for a day of facials, massages, etc.  Her son got sick at the last minute and I wanted to reschedule. They charged me the FULL FEE of $350 for not showing up, because their technicians sat there empty handed. Think they'd pay ME if I showed up and their techs were busy??? I do not think so.

Sincerely,
Nicole

Clearly, this is not a "Total ripoff" - it's not even a ripoff.  You invested time and some effort, but so did he.  Certainly a dissapointment (for both of you).  I am assuming neither of you were rude.

Remember - Can't ask specific Q's beforehand (general etiquette and LE issues).  So a lot is determined by the first impression in person.  That includes your appearance (and his), attitude, dialogue and the environment.

Although I personally would have done a little better, his token offer was likely sincere.  Some providers require 50% deposit beforehand - maybe you should consider this, but realize it reduces your new clientele significantly.

be cool, and realize you can't please evaryone all the time (including yourself).

Personally, I think the reasons a provider gets the expensive rates that she does besides providing a service are 1) its an illegal activity, 2) it can be dangerous at times with all the whacko's out there, and 3) there are alot of flakes and no shows.  Therefore, the fact that a guy showed up and decided not to continue but still paid $40 seem reasonable.  I can see why a provider might think that $40 doesn't equate to someone who would have paid her $300-400 rate, but there's no guarantee that the other appointment would have showed up at all.  That's just part of this type of business.  That's why I think alot of providers will give preferential treatment when it comes to setting appointments, service, and even rates.

I've gone to providers who I've done thorough research on and when I showed up, I wasn't happy based on reasons ranging from she smelled like tobacco or weed, or had tons of tattoos, or the place was dirty and the sheets looked used.  I was too big a puss to walk out so the fact that this guy did and still gave some compensation to me is far from a ripoff.