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Re:I disagree about the self esteem
jackvance 4202 reads
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People who have a high IQ and education SHOULD perhaps have high self-esteem because of it, yet often behave like snobs.

The reason why is that they actually have low self-esteem, which is probably the result of the way they were parented.  Our most important source of self-esteem is how our parents felt about us when we were children.  Lots of well-to-do parents of people who are very intelligent and become highly educated and well-to-do themselves have parented in a way that makes those same children have low self-esteem despite their achievements.

jackvance4018 reads

A lot of providers have to put up with snobbish clients.  I'm sure most of you are already well aware of this, but the key thing to always remember is that snobbishness is rooted in low self-esteem.  If the guy who is trying to look down on you didn't have a low opinion of himself, he wouldn't be acting that way.

Feels sorry for the pathetic guy if you are so inclined, but don't ever let him get to you.

Snob, n [Ice. “snapr”, a dolt, idiot; Sw. dial. “snopp”, anything stumpy, from “snoppa” to cut off, make stumpy, hence, to snub]

1. a shoemaker. [Brit. Dial.]
2. in certain English universities, a townsman as opposed to a gownsman. [Old slang.]
3. a person having no wealth or social rank; one of the common people [Obs.]
4. a person who attaches great importance to wealth, social position, etc., having contempt for and keeping aloof from those whom he considers his inferiors, often one admiring, imitating, and seeking to associate with those whom he considers his superiors.
5. a person who regards himself as better than others in some specified way and behaves undemocratically; as in an intellectual snob.
 a. A snob is that man or woman who is always pretending to be something better – especially richer or more fashionable – than they are.
6. a scab (sense 5) [Brit. Dial.]

HPG

Those at the top, the middle and the bottom of society feel snobbery. It does not confine itself to intellect, wealth, power or fame. There are constant competitions at all levels of the wealthiest, moderate and lowest income brackets for the highest ranking in that particular group.

Witness Opera Societies, Theatre Groups, and the Hamptons as examples at the “top” of society.

Notice the types of cars and how many there are in the driveways of the middle-income housing tracks, the landscaping, the lighting, the entryways, etc.

Look at the some of the turf wars and gang wars that erupt in south central LA, OC and other places, the structure of the neighborhood social ladder, where people congregate, etc.

While what I said above can also be viewed as competition, it still derives from the desire to be on top of the dog-pile. Those at the bottom of highest group want to move to the top. Those at the top of the middle group look at the bottom layer of the top group and are covetous and desirous of that position.

The snobbery within each group is always present, it is a tool that many use to keep would-be “over-achievers” from moving up and taking over, and even those who are on their way up use it to intimidate those above and below them.

I am simplifying obviously because the points have been made well by everyone who posted above.

From my perspective snobbery reflects downward, upward and across.

HPG

Check out this info on another place I know:

SOUTH AFRICA.  

Check this shit out...I just responded with this to somebody else that wanted a provider to take to the Caribbean for a week but it definitely applies to this post as well:

In the link is a high end provider in Cape Town that can be all yours for 7 nights for 27,000 ZAR (about $3,500 USD).

South Africa is such an amazing country and I cannot even imagine what an experience like 3 nights in Cape Town and 3 nights on safari in the Sabi Sand Reserve would be like with a woman like Shakira.

The trip of a lifetime would set you back the following:

Airfare - $1,000 (add $300 from West Coast)
Shakira for 7 nts - $3,500
Vuyatela, 3 nts - $1,500 (all inclusive)(http://sabi.krugerpark.co.za/djuma-vuyatela-lodge.html)
Cape Grace hotel, 4 nts - $1,500. Voted the best hotel in the world by Conde Nast Traveler in 2000.
(http://www.capegrace.com/)
R/T airfare for two to Hoedspruit for safari - $500
Grand Total for 7 nights you will never forget - $8,000

Talk about sensory overload...the natural beauty of Cape Town, the amazing experience of going on safari and all with a top notch provider by your side the whole time at a rate PER DAY that is not much more than the rate PER HOUR of an American provider.

And please don't anyone bother me with the AIDS rate in South Africa.  You cannot compare a woman like Shakira with the rural South Africans where AIDS is a plague.

I will be in South Africa in just a few weeks now but because I am married and will not be alone, I can hope for nothing more than a short romp with Shakira or another like her.

The last thing I would ever do would be to take an American provider on a holiday, given their rates.  South African women cannot be compared to Mexican women, Costa Rican women or Thai women or anywhere else.  Their first language is ENGLISH and many of them are 100% white or mostly white and their accent is enough to make you nearly shoot your wad right there.  It's like a British accent, only sexier.  Ever see Lethal Weapon II or III with the hot little South African diplomat chick that Mel Gibson shags???  Just like that.

South Africa is a hobbyist paradise and while a woman of Shakira's status may cost $500 per day, there are places to go to get very hot young women (18+, although the Age of Consent is only 16 in South Africa) for about $50 USD per hour, everything included and paid to the front desk.  

You will likely have to pay a U.S. escort of any caliber a minimum of $1,500 PER NIGHT for her company plus all her airfare and other travel expenses.

I am so envious of guys that have the freedom to travel and just think it is such a pity that none are knowledgable or adventurous enough to come to South Africa to fulfill what would be MY personal dream of a hobbying holiday in South Africa.  Please, somebody, let me live my dreams through YOUR dick!!!
If you like it you can send a Paypal to a girl like WowNikki or equivalent for me with all the money that you have saved!

Someday somebody will listen, just as they finally listened to me about TJ and Adelita's Bar down there.  Forget about TJ...if you have the time go to South Africa, hook up with a top notch provider, experience the beauty and awesome vibe of Cape Town, go on safari, and have the best time of your natural life!!!

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Las Vegas is fun but if you are going to spend big bucks, expand your horizons a little...errr, A LOT more and go someplace that you will never forget.  There are casinos in Johannesburg also and tons of providers.  Check out a website called www.sextrader.co.za and you will find a multitude of providers that are probably available for $400 USD - $500 USD per night.

I'm really not trying to spam this board with South Africa info, I am just excited about my approaching trip and think it is a waste for hobbyists to go to Vegas, Europe or the Caribbean with a provider when there are so many hot girls in South Africa of every color.

crank_yanker3502 reads

This thread has turned into a general analysis of snobbery.  I'm more interested in how snobbery occurs in the context of the hobby.  I'd like to hear cases of how its occurred both within and outside of the hobby.  For example, I can tell you one experience I had with a provider who was an intellectual snob.  Though I sensed that going into it, she was hot so I wasn't gonna leave!  It was a symptom of other things which is why we didn't connect.  Outside of the hobby, though it hasn't happened to me, I'm curious if acquaintances of hobbyists are snobs about the hobby.  Also, are acquaintances of providers similarly snobbish?
Cheers,
CY
P.S. With the exception of snob snobbery, snobbery suck!

bank23329 reads

It comes from my wife!!! She has been teaching a class in it for about 3 years now, ever since we had our daughter.

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