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vcooolplayboy 2 Reviews 3304 reads
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yes the identity concern is a difficulty.

showing HIV test records doesn't mean there will be unprotected sex. it just shows that both parties are healthy as of three months ago. this process will prevent those who know they are infected from providing or receive this hobby.

protected sex should always be practised. i don't want to have to support a few kids from this hobby, let alone STDs.

vcooolplayboy4670 reads

Would you think it's a good idea for both the providers and the hobbyists to show current HIV testing results when they meet? It's kinda like doing a driver license check.

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singleton2646 reads


why would you even desire such an "exchange" ??

unless she's a porn star she most likely wouldn't even consider it (a provider that is). besides her own safety (HIV + STDs) she'd be revealing her real name/identity in the process, not something most providers would do

also, the porn industry's definition of "safe sex" (monthly PCR/RNA tests, quarantines, etc) is not exactly the same as the surgeon general's you know

IMHO best to leave unprotected sex to the "pros"




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loverofwomen3616 reads

but it's not really all that helpful.  There are two technical problems:  

First, HIV tests can show a negative for as long as six months after exposure.  Don't forget, you're not testing for the virus, you're testing for antibodies.   These take time to devlop.

Second, one can take a test, and then have sex with an infected partner an hour later.

HIV tests are very useful.  They can help ensure that partners in a committed relationship are safe.  And while hobbyists and providers trading HIV credentials prior to any contact isn't a bad idea, it would not eliminate the need for safe-sex practices.

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MichaelCA3543 reads

Also the only way to know you have someones correct test is to match their ID with the name on the test. Most ladies are not going to want to show you their IDs.

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vcooolplayboy3305 reads

yes the identity concern is a difficulty.

showing HIV test records doesn't mean there will be unprotected sex. it just shows that both parties are healthy as of three months ago. this process will prevent those who know they are infected from providing or receive this hobby.

protected sex should always be practised. i don't want to have to support a few kids from this hobby, let alone STDs.

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AngelStar2480 reads

but as loverman said...in your eyes it might tell you that the provider has been clean for three mos but what if that same day of getting her results she had unprotected sex with someone whas infected I think that test she just showed you would not be quite accurate.

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singleton4106 reads


i do watch a lot of PBS ... which entitles me to pontificate willy-nilly on the internet! ;-)

but seriously ... last night there was a rerun of a show about the "black death" plague in europe back in the middle-ages and how some genetic mutations in a small sub-population built up immune functions which eventully stopped it from reaching an epidemic conflagration of worldwide scale

in this show they also pointed out the more recent case of the "delta-32" mutation that renders T-cells immune to HIV infection. these (lucky?) individuals can potentially go on to become the modern day equivalent of "typhoid mary". that is to say people who are NOT infected (hence have no antibodies) yet carry the virus (in small enough viral loads to be missed by some PCR assays) and may in fact be able to infect others!


in short, in comes down to how many "empty chambers" are you comfortable with when playing russian roulette?


hobby safe


PS. wonder what AIM would have to say about this. probably too "argumentative" or confrontational for them.

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2sense2475 reads

Antibody testing for HIV (i.e., AIDS virus), whether ELISA or Western blot, measures only whether antibodies raised to a HIV challenge are present. It says nothing about the degree of viral load circulating in the bloodstream, or present in semen or vaginal secretions. The presumption is almost always made, though, that if antibodies to HIV are detected in blood, the virus will be also be present in these bodily fluids. However, there are certainly instances where no antibodies to HIV are raised by the patient, yet virus is still present; these are called "false negatives". As stated above, HIV-antibodies may take up to 6 months after infection to be detected, but usually it's within a month or so of exposure. This leaves an open "window" in which the individual is without antibodies (seronegative), yet still carries the virus

PCR, or polymerase chain reaction, is a sensitive test which measures the HIV load, by directly detecting the genetic information of the AIDS virus. It can measure viral infection  even when the patient has not raised HIV-antibodies (for whatever reason). Presumably, PCR testing can narrow that above window that is left open by antibody testing alone.

The definition of being HIV-infected is that you have the AIDS virus; the presence or absence of HIV-antibodies is largely irrelevant, except as a potential confirmatory test. Only people actually infected with HIV can expose others to the virus.

But all of this is academic, guys. You're way better off just using condoms.

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Tatoogirl743598 reads

Well, the last time I got tested, they don't give you anything with personal information on it. So, you still cant't believe anyone.
Second, since most services are covered, why do you need to show the results??

Shaye

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