Would you see a provider even though she was NOT your type?

I've seen these type of providers and their pictures on their web sites looked good but I was disappointed after arriving. I still stayed, but would not go back and kind of feel like it was money wasted.

If she was not your ideal then don't waste your time nor hers. Leave. Why stay in an appt. that is only wasting your money and her time? I read constantly those reviews by men (and you know who you are men!) saying she was not my type, but it AMAZES ME TO NO END (LOL) me how she was able to make him stand up at attention and go around the world with her in bed LOL Then they write a nasty review about her, although she gave him her 200% attention. Its sad for the provider for that is a mark against her, just because she went out of her way to please him. It's sad for the hobbyiest for he is made to look like a jerk for staying. If any man feels that he is not interested in the provider, then learn how to speak up, and walk out the door. Use your big brain! Not the little one between your legs, and always remember it's a YMMV world out here! One man's junk is another man's treasure.



-- Modified on 12/28/2003 8:47:23 PM

I have these comments on ProviderAdvocate's posting:

1. Where are these reviews that you see "constantly" where the reviewer says she wasn't his type, but gave 200% and got him off -- and then he was nasty in the review?  I have seen the first two parts, but rarely the nasty part.  I know it happens and I sympathize, but I think it's the exception.  I've seen many more honest and sincere comments, with a disclaimer of ymmv.

2. If a hobbyist stays, why is he necessarily a jerk?  There have been threads giving reasons why he stays, and in many cases he wants to make the best of it.  What many women don't understand is a man can still want to get laid even if it isn't by his type.

3. Do you really want to promote the attitude "If she's not what I want, I'm leaving?!"  Personally I'd only leave if she was a ripoff or greatly misleading in her ad.

4. I think I speak for many men who would feel bad about breaking an appointment just because it didn't feel right.  Believe it or not -- some guys really care about hurting a lady's feelings!  That's where this poster was coming from, if you look at his alias.

5. If a guy really is unhappy, I would suggest giving a fairly generous cancellation fee with a polite apology.

6. Finally I say to the guys - give it a chance - you might be surprised and have a good time!  If you don't, write an honest review and don't take it out on the girl.

-- Modified on 12/28/2003 9:22:40 PM

1. Fault-Yes it's his fault for staying and then boo hooing about it afterwards. It's not the provider's fault that his little head is talking for the big one on his shoulders. I mean, I hate to think that the little head is the one that does the majority of the talking for the big head. I actually have a funny image of the little head arguing with the big head about going out to eat for dinner at McDonald's LOL Geesh I wonder who won that argument?

2. Constantly-Yes there are reviews by men who stayed, despite the fact that they weren't attracted (infact, some of the very men who post on this board, are some of the reviews that I have read where they ended up staying anyways), and still make nasty remarks about ladies. Infact, some months ago this had happened to a provider friend of mine who was devasted by the fact that hobbyiest told her one thing and in the review stated another. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Yet, she was able to give him a great time, and he pays her the favor by talking down to her in a review.. when it came time for him wanting to see me (she forewarned me), I refused to see him.

3. Nasty- (coinciding with number 2) Yes, a hobbyiest can be down right nasty, which I have seen with my own eyes on some reviews that I have read.

4. Jerk-yes for not speaking up! remember, he is the consumer and if he is not happy with a product either be vocal and take your money where it is worth it or just accept the product as is, and it's his fault for wasting his money. No one is holding him down with a leash for him to stay. Don't be a wimp! He has 2 feet that the lord gave him, he needs to learn how to use them.

By the way, I agree with you on your number 6 LOL






-- Modified on 12/28/2003 11:23:06 PM

Why would you spend your money on a provider that wasn't
your type in the 1st. place? I'm not sure that I understand.

I would think that if her pictures were accurate, then you should be able to tell if she is your type. (at least somewhat)

Maybe, you should find a lady that is your type and stick with her. That way, you won't have to feel like, you have wasted your money, on someone that was a disappointment. You do have a choice.


I can ALWAYS find something GOOD about Someone
and they are Not Always MY type either.  


-- Modified on 12/28/2003 10:00:24 PM

I haven't read yet in any review where the woman forces him to stay, by chaining/roping him to a bed (unless, he was specifically looking just for that type of entertainment) LOL Until then, I believe the consumer does have a choice to stay or not. If he should stay with the appt. regardless of her looks, then have a great time! But don't boo hoo about it after it's over, by writing a review of the account, coming off as a jack a$$ by dissing the lady (trust me, we ladies do read your reviews! Your personality are viewed/based on how you write your reviews). Remember, he made the choice to stay. I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression for I do feel for the client when a provider robs him, doesn't show up, etc., but in cases like these, where she IS there in the room, and he doesn't like what he sees, he then needs to exercise his options and leave the premises before "gifts" are distributed. There is no one to blame for wasting his money, but himself.



-- Modified on 12/29/2003 11:53:16 AM

Let me give my own opinion in this matter-
I will not stay if the provider is a b@tch, or if her pictures are of someone else, or if she tries to upsell, or acts in any strange manner, and in these situation I feel no obligation to give any money, since I would be ripped off.  I will not waste more of her time than she wasted of mine.
However, if we just don't "click," and I find her attractive, I would stay and enjoy myself (I like doing things like this with women I normaly wouldn't do them with).  I wouldn't repeat, but then so what?  She made money and I got something out of it.
And I think that while providers definetly need to be treated like you would treat any lady you were on a date with, they must also treat the hobbiest with respect as well, we are their source of income after all!
Can't we all just get along?

Allow me to apologize up front for the length of this post.  I've been posting less recently, so I vent by spouting alot when I do.

I've dated many providers in almost every single classification you can name (BBW, spinner, black, white Latina, Asian, etc.), with the possible exception of a current porn star.  And in the vast bulk of my experiences this is the one quality that matters the least.

I would have chosen a provider because I did my homework on TER and I believed that we could enjoy each other's company.  I've rarely been way off base on this.  Why?  Because I did that homework, and have tried to chose a provider, based on those reviews, that highlight those qualities (physical, emotional, intellectual, services rendered, etc.) that I feel are important to me.

Another major advantage of TER, one that is not spoken about very often, is that I have had the pleasure and, in some instances, the honor, of meeting fellow hobbyists face-to-face.  As we have gotten to know each other, we have made recommendations, and with only 1 notable exception, they have always been excellent experiences.

To specifically respond to your question:

It appears that when you say "type" you're refering to the physical appearance of a provider.  Of course if the pictures on her site lie, then you are certainly within your rights to leave.  Nobody likes to be lied to.  But wouldn't you have deduced that from carefully reading the text of her reviews, and accordingly have passed her by to begin with?  Almost every review I have read has mentioned something about the provider's looks, good, bad or the same as her pics, so this shouldn't be a problem in the first place.

Insofar as personality is concerned, this is one of those YMMV areas, and you just have to speak to her beforehand and try to get a sense of her from that "pre-date" contact.  Everybody is different and we all react differently to one another.  I will say that there have been instances where I called a provider, then based on that contact decided to pass on a date.  Trust your guts, they're usually correct.

If you elected to stay even though she wasn't "your type", you have fulfilled a commitment (yes, you commited to seeing her after all!) and have done, IMHO, the correct thing.  Hopefully you have tried to make the best of your date and did receive some enjoyment as a result.

My .02, sorry it's more like a nickel this time.

F.

Even after doing our research on TER (and I hope all of us are spending a great deal of time with it, I know I do), there is still the possibility that when the time comes for the appointment the lady is not who you expected.

I know we can always politely excuse ourselves and offer her a fee for meeting us, but I find it EXTREMELY akward to do it.  IMHO.  Tht doesn't mean that everyone who does walk away is not justifed.  I wish I had the gumption (sic) to do that.

This situation has happened to me a couple of times.  The lady and I had a lovely evening.  You never know.

Let me see if I have  this straight...If you do your reasearch, and you get there and it is obvious that it may have been a mistake, you still go through with it? (You might be suprised)

Do you say this, because you contracted her for the time? You have the right to never see her again if it isnt right, but you should pay her because of her time?

I think I agree. I think often because of the legality of this sport, people sometime think they can get away with things that they would never pull with any other hourly professional.

Why make disparaging remarks about the provider, although she gave you (just in general) a great time, regardless. Couldn't the reviewer have been more gentlemanly, than to down grade her in a review? Now, I have clicked on many of the men's handles here, and read reviews and for anyone to say that men don't talk some smack, is bullcrappy lol He stayed! He wasted his money! Now he complains. Well, why write the review, if he stayed and acted like she made him do it? If you are staying, then decide to write a review, at least be a gentleman about it, and not come off like jerk. Even though she was very pleasant in demeanor, knew how to make him stand at attention, and yet he writes a frothy review (again, this happened to a very well known, well liked provider in my community, who was devestated) describing her like she was the neighbor's dog next door. That is what I find ashamed.

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-- Modified on 12/29/2003 10:28:43 AM

In a heart beat!  And with enough vash on hand of course.

For a lot of guys, this is the point-   I would never have tried an asian girl or an african-american.   Or some of the BBW-y types I have enjoyed before.   This is a great place for exspermination...

No one should ever blame the provider if the hobbyist sees her pic and still schedules an appointment, knowing in advance that she is not his "type."  But that is probably rare for most of the TER group.  It used to happen to me alot before I discovered TER, and especially when I used non-internet providers.  Most of the girls who haven't been reviewed seem to use someone else's pic.  

But even now, it is VERY common for me to find websites in which the provider doesn't show her face at all.  I understand her desire to keep her privacy, but it is still the face that makes someone attractive.  It's difficult to judge from a picture in which the face is hidden or scrambled.

Once you're standing in the provider's doorway, it is very difficult to leave.  Firstly, because it's not nice to hurt someone's feelings.  And secondly, because the little head DOES take over.  If it didn't, would I even BE here when I should be working?

little ones? What do you think about that? LOL Using one's common sense may actually work! WOW!!! LOL Honestly, I do read other men's reviews that post on here (and some of those who posted right on this very thread),and I notice that trend of writing the review, dissing the provider, even though she wetted the prong, and got it to cum. It just behooves me to laugh, sh*ts and giggles, that though his oscar myer weiner had a great time, he still needs to prove himself a man by downgrading her a review. If that is what a man is all about, I am sure as hell glad that I am not one! lol

-- Modified on 12/29/2003 2:06:30 PM

Some of you got the wrong idea of what I was stating. I would not write a bad review if we "did not click" but I would mention YMMV and what it was that made me give that score.

All I'm saying is, some ladies use "glamour shots" or "enhanced" photos and more than once, I've been surprised.

To me there is a difference between "mature" and "someone's grandmother" or "curvy" and "just plain huge". I'm no prize myself, but I am the paying customer and do expect a decent deal.

And as someone else stated here, I do care about the feelings of the lady, but I in no way would pay a consolation fee because she was "not my type". If I'm gonna pay, I'm gonna play, it's my money.

Thing is, it's not the "type" of provider that's the problem, it's your decision making process.  You make it sound like it would be our fault for being photogenic and getting good reviews.  Gosh it's really hard to please some of you guys!

-Anya

I don't think you're right about that.  If I were to go through all of the providers I have seen before (including those who I met before I found TER), I think I wouldn't have seen half of them if I'd known what they REALLY look like in advance.  

You should reread notabadguy's last post.  He mentions the overwhelming abundance of providers who use enhanced shots, not to mention the girls who don't show their faces, and those who actually use someone else's picture on their site.  They're not just "photogenic," some of them aren't even the one in the picture.  LOL  Agencies are, of course, notorious for this.  All of this might come as a shock for the rather professional and ethical (not to mention tech-savvy) girls who routinely post on this board, but it is true.  No one should get a bad review for not being someone's "type," but they should be exposed for putting false or enhanced pics on their websites.  

As for having the good sense to just walk away, well...for me, it's like being drunk.  When you're horny enough to drive for an hour in New York traffic, and then throw away $$ - $$$$$ for an HOUR, you've probably lost the ability to make proper judgements.  At least I have.  I'm not sure if any of the providers can sympathesize or understand this.  I'm not even sure if all the other MEN on this board feel this way.

Your post made me think about my "ideal" woman, my "type."  She would be white or Latina, have dark or red hair and light eyes, and be very curvy.  Then I looked at my past reviews.  I don't think even ONE of the girls I've seen has matched that description.  Most have been blondes (my least favorite hair color) and the majority have been thin or medium built.  In fact, my ATF had blondish hair (but she was somewhat curvy).  There's no deep message here, I just find it amusing that it worked out this way.

I can think of two occasions, while out of town on vacation, where the providers were not what I expected.  Photos can be a litle misleading, sometimes faces are blurred...

It would be very awkward for me to offer a tip and ask the lady to leave...I'm not even saying the ladies weren't attractive, just not what I was expecting.  In both cases I invited the lady in and we sat down and chatted a bit.  They both were very warm and friendly...and I could not ask them to leave for fear of hurting their feelings.  Should I have been tougher?  Kind of glad I wasn't.  I had great experiences with both.  GREAT!  

But I never wrote the reviews.  I certainly would have given high scores for performance but honestly would have to give them maybe 6's for looks.  They both routinely receive 8's and 9's for appearance.  Even though I like them I won't embellish the numbers in a review...and I guess because they were so nice I didn't want them to see a 6, so I wrote nothing.  They have plenty of reviews, so I didn't think mine was needed.

We all have different tastes, particularly in judging appearance.  If you receive a 6/8 or 6/9 review, would that upset you?  Is that a bad review from your point of view?

I think this thread is awesome!

I  think this gave us ladies a chance to express our feelings on this very topic! Over the years (3+ for me), I have spoken with numerous ladies in regards to this very topic, and it always has been a frustration to many of the ladies, for she feels that she doesn't have a voice. I, for one, am glad that the original poster did bring up the subject, and I am hoping that in the year 2004, gentlemen will become more "pro-active" by learning how to walk away from an appt., that they are not happy with, rather than staying. I also hope that there will be more reviews from the gentlemen with respect towards every single lady that they had a good time with (regardless if they were model material to the "average" lady who gave him her all). It comes down to respect for one another.

Now, I took the time out today, and read some reviews, made by some posters on this board. I looked at the low scores in either looks or performance, and the majority of what I read, the reviewer was able to complete the act (in some cases sever times over, mind you), even admitted to the provider being a nice person, but what made me shake my head in shame, is the way he would describe the provider, as though she were not a human being. One case scenerio really got to me-how one gentleman described the woman's body like being "Jello", and some other words, which I will not repeat on here. I am sorry, but to say that about anyone, especially after that person just had intercourse with  (I believe multiple cups, infact), is totally disgusting, rude, and obnoxious. Would any provider would like to see this reviewer in the future, knowing that he degraded some sweet provider (his own words for describing her personality, was "sweet"), and that he could turn around and do it to her? I would believe not.

But let  me see if I can intelligently respond.

"If you do your reasearch, and you get there and it is obvious that it may have been a mistake, you still go through with it? (You might be suprised)"

When I've done my research correctly, up to now it has never been a mistake, and therefore I do go through with it.  This does not mean to say that if her review scores are all 8's and 9's she may get a lower(or higher) grade from me, but in the past I have not been unpleasantly surprised, and frankly have been pleasantly surprised more than a couple of times.

" Do you say this, because you contracted her for the time? You have the right to never see her again if it isnt right, but you should pay her because of her time? "

I say this because in actuality I am there, I did make a commitment to the provider, either via telephone or e-mail, as did the provider make a commitment to me, and as looks are more of a secondary quality in my searches, I proceed and try to create the experience I desire.  In the few instances that I can recall like this (like before I discovered TER), I'm probably batting around .500.

"I think often because of the legality of this sport, people sometime think they can get away with things that they would never pull with any other hourly professional."

When I was in business, many of my employees were billed to clients on an hourly basis with relatively long term commitments, and these commitments were contractual, with penalties for cancellations, no-shows, etc.  Of course the exception may be in the case of gross misrepresentations, but if the original poster had done the homework he may have discovered this anomaly and gone elsewhere to begin with.  Maybe it's my training coming through here, but I did mean what I said.

One example was a provider I met about 6 months ago.  I read all of her posted reviews, and the ones for the past 6-8 months pretty much inplied that she had aged and gained some weight since her pictures were taken.  She showed up, and her pics in fact were 15 years and 25 pounds ago.  But you know what, she performed as expected and she did get a pretty good review from me.  

And I agree with you that there are many guys out there that think they can get away with some things in this hobby that they cannot get away with in the straight business world.

Kudos to notabadguy for coming up with a timely and intelligent topic.  Thanks, and Happy New Year to all.

I have, but she had made a wonderful effort which I noticed, rewarded and provided for on a review. I would not hesitate to critisise someone for being lazy and not making an effort. Just because I did not click I would not critisise what I saw as a real effort on her part. And actually That is exactly the kind of woman I do want to meet, someone who does try to make my time memorible. ANd I have been with some that think their looks alone should be enough or give excuses about , no not this and no not that. Sorry but when you talk the sort of money some providers want excuses should be a minimum, however I do always treat them with respect. With as much as I expect for myself. No provider can be all things to all people. You have to recognise that.

No matter how much money a man is paying, does not give him the right to ever disrespect a lady, either! I am not talking about her being lazy, for if she is, then I agree with you, WRITE the review! I am 100% percent behind that. That is what reviews are for to grade a session. I am talking about being downright nasty, rude, making lewd comments about her body parts, although YOU (making a generalization) AND HER were still able to have a good time! Disrespect is plain to see on some of these reviews, where it should NOT be the case. It's one thing for you (again, just in general lol ) and I to meet, although there is no attraction, you still had an awesome time. But for YOU (just in general)  to complete our session, and write a review that is so distasteful, shocking, pittiful, disgusting towards me, YES I would be highly upset about it and would want for you to be a man that you were raised to be, and apologize to me, for no woman should ever feel the need to be degraded no matter how much money she may get or how good she made you cum. I just hope that in the year 2004, parties on both sides (Men & Ladies) will start to take responsibilities for their actions. Is there such a thing, as a gentler, kinder review? Yes, I firmly believe that it can happen.


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I once saw a provider based on her reviews. They included glowing praise about a particular language skill.  I found her photos appealing and booked an appointment.

I arrived and, to my disappointment, she began to talk. I won't divulge the subject matter beyond saying it was the MOST boring conversation I've ever had with a provider. It was a real turn-off. When she finally displayed her language skill for me, it was enjoyable but the boredom (and disappointment) induced by her conversation seriously diminished the experience.

Since then, I've read other glowing reviews of her.  I didn't write one (I seldom write reviews).  It's all subjective, with too many variables.  

Reviews often address "skills" and, as "goodgeorge" observed in the thread above (intelligence as a turn-on), that and physical appearance seem to be the primary selection criteria.  There's a little more to it than that, for me, and that's why my decision to see (or not) a provider is only partly influenced by reviews.

I've never walked away, however.  
Somehow, I'd have difficulty doing so unless I'd been grossly misled.

Thank you Sensual_Char

I know that I cannot talk for all of the ladies, but I can talk for some. Over the years, you meet alot of well-known, respected ladies out here, and yes we do talk about the business. I am very passionate about this subject, for it seems to be a sore spot with those I have spoken with (in many states across the USA). I just hope by my posts, that the men who read them, will start to look at themselves more, and realize that no matter what walks of life we ladies come from, that we still liked to be treated respect and dignity.

When do you write a review, has to be the question posed here.
Not every encounter needs a review.  Only when the encounter was noteworthy, will I write a review.  Sometimes you read the reveiws and there is nothing new from the last review..and although you may say this is consistency of service....please be truthful and choose carefully when to write the review.  As the ladies above have stated unlike purchasing a product, ladies are real, have feelings and should be treated with respect.  Choose carefully when to write the review...and remember be informative, truthful and have a reason to write it.

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