If a provider charges more than the "going rates" do guys feel obligated to give a higher score?
 
Are they ashamed to admit that the higher priced girl was no prettier or better in bed than the going rate girls? Do you think they believed the marketing hype and really believe she is hotter, classier and more exclusive than the going rate girl?

My personal policy is not to pay above the "going rate."  I know better than to expect more, and if I do a review, I'm going to be honest with my scoring (to the extent that TER allows it).  In the end, it's another reason I pay more attention to the juicy details, rather than the scores.

give higher scores to help the girls, but rather to massage their own fragile egos.  No one wants to be thought a fool when it comes to money, so giving a higher score justifies to themselves that they spent their money well, even though in my own experience, they didn't.  

One of the worst sessions I ever had was with an indie about 6 years ago charging $1000 for an hour.  It was a learning moment for me that price does not automatically mean quality, and that most prices are set arbitrarily and have little or no relationship to the quality of the session, although sometimes, the girls are setting their rates based solely on their looks.  What they don't realize is that beauty is only one aspect of attractiveness, and without personality, good attitude, playfulness and a little humbleness, they are really not all that attractive enough to justify a high rate.  

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I think more people should do it.

That said, I try to keep ratings independent of amount of spent (an 8 is an 8 no matter what it cost) and call out the value in the text, not pro-rate scores up or down for the value (or lack of it) received.

And yes, I've at least once over-rated someone I'd over-paid for. But that was early on, I think at this point I'd be more likely just to be disappointed and express that emotion.

In economic theory, a Veblen good is a commodity which has a demand in proportion to its price. An expensive Veblen good will be in high demand, while a cheap Veblen good will be in low demand. However, consumers can be somewhat irrational, especially when it comes to a subjective experience like found in our hobby. So some johns will consider providers to be a Veblen good, while other johns are strictly looking for value, or a low price.  

The guys looking for a low price are unlikely to select an expensive provider in the first place, so that may be why the high-end providers end up with disproportionately high scores. The one exception seems to be the porn star providers. They often charge really high rates, but sometimes bring a very indifferent attitude. Some of their customers come in with high expectations for a once-in-a-lifetime budget-busting experience, and come away very disappointed and give low marks.

My observation on this is that if a guy spends - say $500 or $600 on a session with a well reviewed gal with lots of 9's and 10's he isn't likely to do a review and one admit that he got "Scrood" and further-risk the wrath of the gal by rating her lower than her anticipated 9 or 10......

The guy will generally follow the crowd with his score or....not review at all !

Thoughts ??

am more than likely not going to be seeing her. Yes, there are exceptions but few and far between.

What is the difference between a $700 provider and a $450 provider?

 

 

Only $250. Doesn't mean she is hotter, gives a better BBBJ, or f*cks better.

Ok, so I actually have some relevant experience here.

In short, higher prices generally yield better reviews because when people pay more for something they *want to like it* more. Personal investment if you will, the old ego not wanting to look like a fool.  

 
There's more to it than that however and services fair worse than products at this game.  
See, products are substantial and somewhat more permanent than an experience. There is more person to person variance with a service, whereas a product is more tightly perceived as society would perceive it. That is, a major part of our value assessment is tied up in what other people would think about the price. Moreso with the tangible than the intangible.

Think Apple products or fancy coffee or even expensive wine. They all have a small actual added value, but a huge price increase. People rant and rave about how nice they are, but looked at statistically, they're usually not far off the cheaper alternative, and occasionally are inferior. I've included some further reading at the bottom if you're interested [1][2]

Services are a funny thing, because the value assessment is much harder. Part is the perceived difficulty of the service (the what would it take to do that), the difficulty to obtain it (that is, the less effort the customer puts into the experience the better), and the context that the price was encountered. In this industry, there's a huge interpersonal element at play. This is hard to quantify or study, but unfortunately plays a huge role in customer satisfaction. The closest thing I could find was CMT type massages, which wouldn't typically have a ton of interaction, and the value assessment was still split on quality vs personality.[4]
Context is something that is usually controllable to an extent and most providers do this well. In short, if you're buying 2 hours with a lady, but she has packages that are 20 times the price listed on the same page, 2 hours seems cheaper. It's price anchoring. [3] The other problem is that we're all online now, so if someone just looked at a 1200 per hour girl, and happens upon your 800 per hour ad, your 800 per hour doesn't seem so bad relatively speaking. This affects the value perception of the service, because if someone goes for the 1k/hr girl after seeing ads for 600/hr girls it's going to be a much tougher sell and could actually hurt the value perception.

Practically speaking now.

Protect your pricing, list it on your website only so you can control the context.
Offer expensive packages even if no one goes for them.
Look for cheap and easy value ads that clients will notice. Engage the senses.
Make it easy to book you and easy to be with you.  
Follow up after the session and address concerns. Getting ahead on a bad review could save your rating.
and finally, don't over charge. [5]

 

 

[1]http://ageconsearch.tind.io/record/37328
[2]https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703683804574533840282653628
[3]https://www.helpscout.net/blog/pricing-strategies/
[4]https://www.lmtsuccessgroup.com/blog/how-to-spoil-your-massage-client-keys-to-client-retention/
[5]http://blog.clientheartbeat.com/pricing-customer-satisfaction/

Right on the point.   Providers charge higher price do not always provide better services.

During Providers' early hobby,  providers offer small discount (i.e.  20$ off),  better and more services as an encouragement for the guys to do  good reviews on them.  

After the Providers got around 20 good reviews they raised their price for the same amount of services.  For example,  raised their price from    Hhr 140$     to      Hhr   280$  for  the same services --  BBBJ,   DATY  &  K-9 (limited GFE).    For 140$ only allows   Hhr,  CBJ  &  K-9    (no longer allow limited GFE).  

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The big difference between 200 dollar visits or 2000 dollar visits is confidence... and I don't know about you, but confidence is a huge turn on for me.

I've played in most price ranges before settling on the area's "going rate" which is around 3-500 for most major cities.  
 

Confidence?? When I paid 1K I did not have ant more "confidence" than when I paid 400. Are you saying the guy or the girl has more "confidence" if he pays more?

I hate to say this OTM, but I am starting to come around to your way of thinking where it comes to "some" hookers at least.

That was one of the dumbest, self serving statements I think I have heard a HDH make to justify her rates. ROFLMFAO

I have played two thousand dollar a hand black jack for hours on end without blinking an eye about the money, THAT is confidence. Paying two grand for a hooker? Not so much.

Hey if she can get tricks to pony up a couple of grand to fuck her for an hour or two, more power to her, but some of the pretzel logic they come up with is fucking hilarious.

Where is JLS/Corrine/GallopingGourmet when we need her? lol

"Confidence" is utter bullshit.  What you're getting (and ALL you're getting) when you pay the higher amount is a better looking woman.  At least you'd better be getting that.  More than likely at the $1000+ prices you're also getting either a porn star or a UTR whose face is known as a model or actress in print, TV or the movies. That's it.

even though she might have very average looks/skills. I see that all the time, especially with the older hookers who have simply been at it long enough they know how to work the stupider johns. I am waiting for "nice guy"  to start reviewing women in the $1,000+ range any day now, just to prove how "confident" he is. lmao

But back to porn stars, I bet you OTM will agree with me, there are some very "average to homely" women doing porn who can still manage to get GPS rates despite looking no better than the typical $200 BP gal. I guess if you can convince yourself that you got a "thousand dollar an hour experience" then I guess you got one. I remember MacLeaky was coming to Dallas a few years ago and he insisted about finding out about this rather average looking, completely unknown hooker advertising for $750 hr. We tried to steer him towards several women, much hotter, well reviewed and hundreds of dollars less, but no dice. Mr Shitinyourdeadmouth was insistent on spending his $750 on a complete unknown. I bet if she had been advertising at $300 hr he wouldn't have given her a second look. You simply can't fix stupid, can you?

I've never gone over 500, so I wouldn't know first-hand. But if someone's paying for fame, I can understand that. Better looks? Maybe, but I'd take a young, fresh girl of feminine proportions--whom you can find everywhere up and down market--over the model-types and hardbodies with fake tits I notice charge a fortune and gobble up 10s. Which might be a false dichotomy, and I'm sure there are 1000 girls who are better looking than any girl I've ever been with. But often enough, higher-end providers aren't my type.  

The youngies aren't very professional, though, and I assume at least you get that from the 1000 -2000 crowd. Still, I can't imagine any girl being worth 700 more than some of my crappier experiences, even. They must be appealing to people who buy hookers like I buy candy bars. There are times I don't bargain shop, throw caution to the wind, and am content to overpay by 30 cents if that's the way it plays out.

Wrong as usual! lol. Go to LA and see some of those ex-centerfolds or "bikini models" or others who are supposed to be ex-models at 1K+ a show. They advertise at 25 but are really 35. They are NOT more attractive than 'going rate" girls.

Do a search for a page that shows "porn stars without makeup."  You might be surprised.

When I am gambling, quite frankly "real money" stops mattering and I am likely to start betting a hundred bucks a hand "for the dealer" on top of a few grand a hand for myself, so I get the concept of simply "not giving a fuck about the money"

The guys I laugh at are the guys who seriously believe they are going to be guaranteed a better experience with a "better woman" just because they pay more, which is incredibly dumb and reminds so much of the yuppie phenomenon that started back in the 80s when the newly "well to do" thought they could "buy class" and immediately started overpaying for everything from wine to art since they had no actual "taste" and simply bought whatever had the highest price tag.

Helena asks for $1,200 for a single hour session. Without being mean, I don't see anything that she has that a woman asking 1/4 of her rate doesn't also have. The only thing particularly memorable about her is her height. I suppose at six foot eight in stripper heels, she would be hard to forget, but aside from that, does anyone here REALLY find her any more attractive than the typical $3-500 hr girl here on TER?

I have to agree with you once again. I too do NOT necessarily find the GPS girls to be any hotter than the "going rate" girls and often don't find them attractive at all.

I've been with some insanely hot young women (early 20s) in the $500-$600 range who were thoroughly professional.  And don't assume "you get that from the 1000-2000 crowd."  People of all ages and price points run the gamut, so you never know.

That "without makeup" applies to almost every woman in the world.  I've seen more than a few porn stars up close -- I don't pay that kind of money but knew a booker.  And, yes, by and large they are better looking than most other hookers.  That said, they are no better looking than girls in the $500-$600 range who aren't porn stars.  But some guys will pay a premium for someone they can see in a porno and say to their friends, "Yeah, I tapped that."  Not me.

I really don't think so because if I paid a lot for a girl I expect what I pay for and the same goes for a lower priced gal.

The one thing I have come to find is that many of the VIP girls attract a VIP customer.  And when I say that, I am not necessarily talking about the wealth of the customer.  To me a VIP customer tends to be a guy who prefers more than a 1 hour or 90 minute session.  I think a VIP girl knows that.  If you look at it.  Somebody like Helena West might prefer to see one guy for 14 hours rather than 4 different guys for one hour for the same amount of money.  Especially if that one customer is polite, clean cut and she genuinely can carry on a conversation with him.  At $350/hr for an overnight, she'd gladly work overnight.  

I personally feel like when I spend all night with a woman that I am not just a piece of meat either and get thrown out after an hour with the bathwater.  Sure there are women who I have spent the night with them and had a bad time.  I choose not to write about them.  That's all. I actually felt worse that I spent that much time with them and did not get what I expected.

For VIPers I think that the GFE experience goes beyond looks and the physical acts but the overall experience that leaves you with a feeling that all that time was worth it.  It also leaves the woman feeling very satisfied that she made that connection by giving herself to one person and not four.

I think if you look at a lot of women from the perspective of Costco pricing (sorry for the bad analogy) you might find that at volume (hours) discounting, you are getting a much better deal.  

When am I allowed to recognize patterns? Guys have dug up "diamonds in the rough" on BP for $80 an hour. But I wouldn't count on it.  

I suppose I could have said, "Ceteris paribus, young providers on average tend to be less professional." Talking like that bores me. So I say instead that youngies are unprofessional.  

I've been with thoroughly professional young ones, too. But every time I've ever had significant problems with professionalism in this hobby, it's been with women 25 and under. I don't consider that a coincidence.

Fair enough. During the great recession some porn stars would come up here (SF) UTR for as little as 4-500. They would use a different name to stay out of trouble with the agency. They were attractive but plenty of going rate girls (in the same age group) were equally attractive.

I seldom watch modern porn so their status as a porn star meant nothing to me.

By confidence do you mean the customers confidence that the session will be worth the cost?

I believe I've went over that above. It's certainly a factor in the review, experience notwithstanding.

 
Or do you mean the provider's confidence needs to be higher to charge the higher rate, and therefore the service will be better?

I'm not so sure that's the case. No one that I've seen was anything but confident, cool and collected. Perhaps a newbie could have this issue, but I think it's just that, a lack of experience, that is tied to confidence, not price.

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This is the continuation of your bait-and-switch argument where the same provider is charging two different prices "for the same service" and you don't think the service will be different for the two encounters.  This time it’s the “higher price doesn’t mean better” / “no provider is worth more than $X” argument that you turned to when you wouldn’t consider whether or not a person charging a higher price for a service isn’t motivated to do a better job than when they charge a lower price.

There is not a 1:1 correlation between price and "quality," defining quality as TER scores.  You are talking about a market consisting of thousands of providers making independent decisions about prices and having their own opinions about their qualities.  How could you expect such a marketplace to always deliver the right balance of price and service?  That doesn’t happen with lawyers, accountants or plumbers either.  But an educated market means there will be some correlation.

First, let's try not to get sidetracked; limit the discussion to independent non-porn-star providers, which is what most of us are working with.  I don't know anything about the K-Girl market, although I'm sure CDL could clue us in to it, but it sounds like it runs like a cartel (a fancy word for a relatively small group of pimps) that controls supply and prices closely, not an open market.  Likewise, in the agency world, prices are not set by the provider.  Porn stars probably do follow your general theory that price doesn't equal experience, because there's clearly a "starf*cker" premium that some guys are willing to pay and escort work is not their primary source of income.  But that's a tiny set of the overall market.

Next, I constantly see the $400 vs. $1,000 comparison.  The number of providers who have a 1 hour/$1000 rate is very small compared to the number of providers whose lowest rate is $1,000 or more but whose shortest appointment is 90 minutes or more, and usually two hours.  Having spent a good amount of time with these women, most of their appointments are 3 hours or longer and the average rate comes down to $600-700 per hour.  On the other hand, I would not be surprised if most $400/hr providers see the majority of their clients for one hour.  Most of their rate cards don’t go past two hours.

The provider who charges very high rates is making a calculated bet that they can earn more money even though they see fewer clients because they charge a higher rate.  If a business chooses to have fewer customers, it is by necessity more important to have better customer retention than a higher-volume business, because someone who loses 1 of 10 customers is losing a lot more income than someone losing 1 of 25.  How do you retain customers?  By delivering excellent service.  In this business, that can be by looks, by skills, by personality, by many things… but you have to do it better than the average competition.  My personal opinion is that the provider who charges a high rate is more likely to have the confidence in her ability to do a great job, and that makes for a great experience.

There are a lot of comments about “the high priced women get high scores because the clients want to justify their spending/take care of their fragile egos.”  I find it funny that there’s such insight into the motivation of clients apparently unlike you--are you guys all the heads of major advertising firms--but again, absolutely no reflection on the motivations and behavior of the provider.  There’s also no consideration of the possibility that this thinking about the high-spending could be taken the same way as the person who says, “Why did you buy a BMW, a Yugo will get you there, too?”  Talk about fragile egos!

Most of the commentary comes here from what appears to be the more established participants.  Now I will say that I’m sure these guys have had great low-cost experiences and lousy high-cost ones, because they’ve had so many.  So I understand that their experience affects their outlook.  But the irony of it is that this very website, the one the old-timers have put together for us (thank you!), is largely responsible for driving out the providers who don’t give good value for money at any price point.

There is no doubt that you can have an excellent time in the $250-400 an hour range because I think that’s where most providers in big cities start unless they have exceptional skills or looks.  You could stick to women new to the business and and hit some homers, but every so often you’re going to come up with someone who’s not cut out for this and lays an egg.  Of course without TER, you’d be hard pressed to know which BP ad promising a hot young nympho was accurate and which one was actually a lunch lady when your father was in elementary school.

There is actually evidence of how TER is working on the high end.  I did a search for providers who charge between $700 and $1,000 per hour for one hour of escort services with an average experience rating of between 1 and 6, sorted by number of reviews.  The most-reviewed escort had 19 reviews and was last reviewed in 2005.  #2 had been reviewed 12 times, the last time in 2003.  Number 4-13 have not been reviewed any more recently than 5-12 years ago.  There is ONE provider in the entire database who charges a lot ($700 including anal), is rated lower than a 6, and has been reviewed more than 3 times in the past five years (San Diego, what are you thinking?).  By coming up with a way to hold providers accountable for their services, you have created an environment in which an overpriced product disappears quickly.  I know I’ve thrown in a few jibes, but I really do thank you for doing the hard work, and I’m very happy that you’re getting a great experience from the women you see.  That being said, if you can afford to play high-limit table games, you owe it to yourself to spend four hours with Helena like I did two weeks ago.  She is remarkable.

If previous review scores affect future review scores.  

Once a girl gets a few good reviews, she tends to raise her rates (at least, in my market).  

Say her average score at $350/hr was 7-9.  

As soon as she raises her rate to $1k/hr, the scores go up correspondingly... suddenly, it's all 9-10 or 10-10.  

Maybe it's the hobbyist's expectations, or maybe the girls is upping her game as her volume decreases/compensation increases?

GaGambler, you're funny. The subtext of my post is that there isn't necessarily very much difference between providers at any rate.. I'm not worth more or less, or give a better or worse, experience necessarily than any other provider.   I did put up a price for my time, and people are happy to meet me there, or they're not. And that's fine...

It's funny how many people seem to think I some how implied I was anything "better" because I have a higher amount listed to lure me out of my civilian life.

To everyone else, 'confidence' was an implication that a 4 figure provider will probably have more than a 3 figure provider... And to me, I find confidence attractive. Though I understand my values are not universal to all.

Funny how you felt compelled to use an alias for your post.

The double dipping thread got sidetracked because I threw FBSM into the mix. I should have just compared full service to full service.

I have indeed seen girls with multi-hour minimums. One had a three hour minimum for 1800. I left early! I made it a point to almost never see a girl for the first time for more than one hour. Sometimes I will see a girl who has 90 minute miniums. For me that just means more chat time. That does not make them prettier or better in bed.

 " That being said, if you can afford to play high-limit table games, you owe it to yourself to spend four hours with Helena like I did two weeks ago.  She is remarkable"

Shilling? Four hours would almost certainly mean a dinner date? Some of us would not even consider a four hour date. No, it's not because none of us can afford it. Four hours doing what?  Mostly conversation? I'm paying for SEX not fake friendships.

I simply don't need my hookers to have THAT much confidence. lol

No, I don't begrudge you for any amount of money that you make in this business, most people  think I too am grossly overpaid for what I do, but I care even less than you do about what they think. So keep on keeping on and I hope your phone rings the exact amount of times you want it to.

In many cases she is double dipping. There are many girls who offer the SAME service at 400 that they do at 1K using two different names.

I have found out about quite a few of them doing this after I saw them at their HIGHEST rate. They still were not younger, prettier or better in bed than the "going rate" girls. There is no way you can convince me they upped their game.

It's a good thing that you tacked on that zinger to the end because literally nothing in your post supports your argument.

I once paid $400 for an hour.  It was a bait and switch, she was a little overweight and had bad fake tits and an overbite.  Does that convince you that I'm right?

As to your last point, if all you want is to bust your nut, why are you paying anyone?  Go rub one out and spend your money elsewhere.

There are a handful of guys out there who can hook up with beautiful women with no strings attached and not have to pay for it.  We are not those guys (or we are and we have so much money we don't know what to do with it).

You're not paying for sex, you're paying to pretend you're one of those guys.  I do that and get a great conversation.

I used to work for an agency MANY years back. My rate was lower, volume was higher.  

As an independent, I raised my rates and take fewer dates. I can pick and choose who I see. I really do feel that I offer MUCH better, more personal and genuine service than I was able to in my former situation.  

With an agency, at 11PM, when I thought I was done with guy #8 and for the day/night (and so relieved to finally get some rest)... I'd get a text like, 'Hi, MIKE has been waiting for 15 minutes. ARE YOU READY??????'  

Every 10-15 minute overstay felt intolerable, as did every painful fingering or too-long fucking.  

Not like now, I'm much more lenient and tolerant with people (even though I'm still slightly busier than I want to be 75% of the time). I have more flexibility, time, patience, and energy to give that guy w/Parkinson's a few extra minutes in bed, and however long he wants/needs getting dressed and in the shower. I can offer fresh fruit/wine/water for his comfort.  

For prospective clients, I can get to know them over email/text before we meet (and refuse the date if there are any red flags).  

With my lower-volume persona, I *technically* offer the same person/service... but, I'm able to offer it to clients of my choosing, at my own terms, on my own timetable, and at a rate at which I feel better-compensated. That affects my attitude (for me, a good attitude is paramount. Acting can only go so far.... well, at least if the date is longer than 1 hour).  

I don't do this, but... say that, in a financial pinch, I offered $200/30 min on BP under the name 'Valentina' and my longer dates under a different rate (say, starting at $500/hr). The 'Valentina' rates would be out of necessity, those clients would be for immediate (cheap) money and thus dispensable. The other clients would get better treatment, since they booked in advance, invested in longer dates etc. I'd WANT to keep the latter clients as repeats... the former, maybe if things were slow. Maybe.

Fair enough but the double dippers I know/saw or know of were not offering 30 minutes  at cheap prices. Their "going rate" price of 4-500 was where most of the action came from. Bookers told me that they may only get 2-3 guys a month that paid their high price. I doubt that put them in the "high volume" category.

When I was new I was one of those guys that paid the higher price. As I said in another thread I was not too happy when I found out.

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I have found that "some" women actually give worse service to the spineless/clueless guys who pay well "over market" prices because they know these jellyfish will put up with it.  

I know for a fact women do this in Latin American countries where "negotiating" is common place, the guys that don't negotiate a fair price are looked at as too stupid to deserve first class service. I am sure at least "some" women in this country feel the exact same way. I never pay above market prices, not because I can't afford it, but because instead of feeling like a "big shot" I'd feel like a sucker instead and that's not how I want to feel after getting laid. We are supposed to feel good after sex, not stupid. lol

One small caveat to your research is that a lot of the high end VIPers don't allow reviews anymore or they have clients who don't write reviews.  I recently just got back on TER after not having written any reviews for a few years because I was seeing girls who asked that we not write one..

Interesting point.  Made me think.

It is true that I've had a few high end providers who ask not to be reviewed.  It seems to be a growing trend, especially as communicated through the grapevine on Twitter.

But it's more likely that providers with low scores are not getting reviewed any more because they can't get clients due to having low scores.

A high priced provider who got low scores but wanted to stay in the business (at any price point) would up her game and ask for more reviews to counteract the low numbers, or she would change her identity and lower her price point in order to not bump in to the same customers she disappointed.

Look, if clients are not motivated to select providers at least in part based on the ratings, and providers are not motivated to get more business by satisfying what the market is asking for*, there is no point to having a review system.

As for whether or not clients who spend more are more or less likely to write reviews, I can't think of any reason for amount spent to dictate likelihood of writing a review.  I think guys like to write a review because:

1) They want to brag about having sex, and
2) They want to make TER work and it only does if people contribute

I think both of these motives are fairly universal and not tied to dollars spent.

*This is playing with fire.  I'm going to get a lot of heat from providers now who say that they wouldn't offer [fill in the blank] because it's unsafe/unsatisfying/unpleasant but they "have to" because that's what everyone expects.  I have a simple response: 99% of your clients are not trying to take away your autonomy over your body.  You do whatever makes you comfortable, make it clear what you will and won't do, and follow through on your word.  If some creep threatens you with violence to do something you don't want to, use whatever legal tools are at your disposal to blunt that threat, be it a blacklist, pepper spray, a 9mm or a call to 911.  If you can't bring in the clients you desire with what you do, then either look for new clients or find a different job.

#1, thanks for the advice about Latin America.  That is an interesting business strategy.  You're a betting man, GaGa.  Holding everything else equal, if you ran the casino, would you comp the jamoke at the $500 table hitting a 13 when the dealer shows 2 better or worse than the guy at the $100 table who plays by the book?  I know who I want coming back and who I'd rather send to visit the competition.

#2, WOW.  An honest confession of feelings!  The posse's going to come after your man card.  I'm not worried.  Deep down, you are the stubbornest mule with an iron hide.

No one wants to be taken for a sucker.  As I said in my initial post, that's the main purpose of TER, to make what was a completely opaque market somewhat transparent.  If that's how paying above-market rates makes you feel, then don't do it.  There's just no reason to slag some other guy or hassle a provider because they think it's worth it; they've just got a different opinion.

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when they do that, I will respond in kind, but I am a complete believer in getting whatever the market will bear as long as you don't expect to get it from me. As I said in an earlier post, I too am grossly overpaid, and I hate hypocrisy so I rarely "hassle" a provider for her rates.

Now OTOH I completely reserve the right to laugh at stupid guys who think that by overpaying they are going to be guaranteed a better session. Since I have dated a lot of hookers I have been privy to a lot of conversations between these girls about some of their customers and you'd be surprised how little respect the girls have for the dumb fucks who overpay. I have heard first hand girls bragging to each other just how shitty they have treated some of these jellyfish and how they insist on coming back for more.

Back to a business analogy, have you ever seen how shitty some/most of the sales staff on Rodeo Drive are to their middle and upper middle class customers? and have you seen how many of them eat it up? Stupid people are so easy to manipulate and I just can't help laughing at stupid people, call it a character flaw. lol

A lot of us were clueless when we first started internet mongering and were hoping to get a Supermodel type who would be superwoman in bed by paying higher rates. We paid it because we could!  

I've been told that many of the guys who see the HDH types are guys who only monger three times a year. They have no frame of reference. So, yes it's possible they give worse service since the guy is clueless.

Both have four wheels,  a door, a steering wheel, and moves.....but to each his own.....
Sweet naughty kisses,

Frederica De Nere

And that's having someone stick a Maserati hood ornament on a Kia and selling it for Maserati prices.  

Unfortunately that's what often happens in the hooker world. Present company excepted I am sure. lol

Ooo...thank you....
very true....that is what makes this hobby so much fun...finding the gem.....the excitement of the unknown....the mystery behind the name....
Sweet naughty kisses

Frederica

My Hyundai Accent has lasted 10 years without any repairs except going through a few tire changes -- and it's taken me coast to coast.   Price is not value.