I haven't seen the subject of provider's attitudes about hobbyists mentioned on TER yet.  
Have any other hobbyists read some of the provider lit out there, like Jenna Jameson's How to Make Love Like a Porn Star?  A common theme in these provider authored tales is that the providers of adult services seem to have a strong disgust for their clients, to put it mildly.

So, as a hobbyist, does this bother you?  Do you think it is representative of most providers or just a few?  Do you think your provider might feel that way about most guys, but she *really*likes* you?  Do you care what they think?

Reo you care if a provider won't kiss you?

How does that line in that Bloodhound Gang song go?
"I have to admit it was even more of a turn-on
When I found out she was doin me to buy baby formula."
Yes I agree,A Lap Dance Is So Much Better When The Stripper Is Crying.
So maybe some of that disgust is justified.

If that is truly the attitude of most providers all I can say is: I used to have a job I hated, I quit and went and did something else.
(shrugs shoulders in indifference)

I do expect a provider to be reasonably pleasant, cooperative, and discreet.  If the attitude is bad towards men in general, it's going to be hard for her to give a quality experience (although not impossible, at least in the short term); if a provider's attitude is just bad towards everyone, they're not long for any business that they're in.

I don't object if a lady says, "I'd prefer not to kiss", although I would rather that not to be the case.  It would bother me if she showed visible distaste, and if she expressed it in ways like saying "Let's just get this over with", I'd cut the session short, leave, and write a negative review.  My hygiene is always fine, although once in a while, a sinus condition will mean that my breath is not as fresh as I might hope, even with mints.  It isn't news to me when that happens, and I wouldn't expect kissing then.

I don't patronize providers that I suspect of being in the business under duress.  I also don't patronize providers who have negative attitudes if I know about it beforehand.  I try to be a person who is easy to get along with, I try to avoid making unpleasant demands, and I try to make sure everyone involved has a good time.  I'm not going to spend my entire appointment going down on her, but I'll try hard to make sure she gets off, too.  If she'd rather just focus on her customer, I guess I can learn to live with that.  

They usually won't kiss if you have bad breath, sores, etc and that's their choice. We are not their lovers so you can't always expect DFK. I don't expect them to love men or their jobs esp after years of doing it but I do expect them to be pleasant and friendly. I don't like a cold fish esp when I'm paying big bucks. A big part of their job is faking it so they should at least fake being nice!

I've seen one person for over fifteen years and love the time I spend with her, but kissing is just not her thing.

Another provider I see plants her lips on me and I'll be damned if I can break the suction.  

Sometimes you can actually have too much of a good thing.

There is quite a continuum between those two extrememes.

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Reo you care if a provider won't kiss you?

Kissing is a big part of the GFE experience.

now if she wont kiss me... that's a deal killer..

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So she had better be offering something else pretty special.  As it turns out, one of my ATFs did not kiss as a rule and I still saw her > 20 times.  She had a way of creating deep intimacy even without this one thing that I always thought was a sine qua non.  On the other hand, have seen a number of providers one time only because they did not kiss and did nothing to make me not miss it.

I'm not sure why kissing has anything to do with a your question of weather providers like or are disgusted by their clients, and if we (guys) care.

Providers who offer DFK do it as part of their menu of services, not because they like or don't like you.

To your original question.....no, I don't care if she likes me or not.  I'm not part of the "love notes and roses" crowd when it comes to the hobby. My price of admission is buying me a physical service, no more no less.  Weather I'm her cup of tea of not doesn't mean diddly to me. And frankly, I don't think it means much to the ladies either, this is a business to them first and foremost.

Reo you care if a provider won't kiss you?

I have to agree with the consensus regarding kissing as part of the GFE. I may get flamed for this but sometimes I want the fantasy of being with a passionate loving girlfriend. The really good providers can give you that feeling of being with someone, even for a short time. Let's face it, kissing is very intimate and  a real girlfriend gives you that. The whole kissing, intimacy thing is part of the hour long fantasy. That's my story and I am sticking to it

It may depend on whether you are married or in a relationship. If you are, GFE probably is not what you are after.

I'm married and am looking for fantasy, passion, an interesting experience, and something relaxing and pampering. I do not want to kiss (any more than the provider does). I worry about herpes for one thing.

As far as whether the provider is into it, I assume she's not. If I had to sleep with several (is it only several?) women a day, who came in all shapes and sizes, with all sorts of different desires that needed to be met, I'd probably be sick of it in about a week.

It's only happened to me once, on a last-minute booking for a "GFE" provider.  Once I got there and the session started, she told me about the "no kissing" rule.  I pointed out her ad stated "true GFE."  Her response: "I am, except for that."

Barring medical/physical problems, there's no such thing as a (real) girlfriend that won't kiss you.  The experience I'm looking for cannot be obtained without it, and when this happened I gathered my things, paid her the half-hour rate (with her concurrence) and left.

Kissing is the essence of intimacy, and sex is mechanical and impersonal without it.  There are those who feel differently for various reasons, and I say to each his own...but it's not for me.

I guess the link I drew is that if a provider is grossed out by her hobbyist, then it will be shown by things like no kissing, limited touching, no face-to-face missionary, etc.  But I can see it being two questions.  I haven't seen too many younger providers that offer DFK, yet for me (and at least some of the TER readership) it makes the experience worthwhile.