While surfing through recent reviews, I've found only 1 out of 15 who didn't offer BBBJTC.  Do you feel you are getting more for your $$$ by receiving this service?  Do you only frequent women who offer this service?

I don't offer this service and my bookings have been slow. I won't compromise my safety just to get your business. I feel this recession will be over soon and business will be back to normal.

Not a requirement, but a plus.

For me it has nothing at all to do with the recession or anything else other than my own preference.  I will not, nor did I before the economic downturn, see a lady who doesn't offer BBBJ (whether or not CIM, but that's always a plus).  I can't comment on the slower pace of business (this is after all, disrectionary $ that are being spent) has anything to do with additional services previously not on the menu being offered.  However, I will continue to look for what pleases me most after the economy improves.  

I would never suggest that you or anyone else make compromises on things they feel might be unsafe...but you did ask the question.

Yes.  I won't question a provider that doesn't do this, but in order for me to see a new provider, this is now a requirement.  If I arrange to see someone, and the lady requires coverage, I won't make a big deal about it, but I certainly won't go back unless there's something else that acts as an offset (which is rare indeed).  Every day the percentage of providers offering BBBJ's increases, thank God.

on the mid to high range usually offer BBBJ.  It seems that many Miami touring ladies have BBBJTC in their menu.  The percentage you sited of ladies that offer BBBJTC are extremely high.  My understanding is that only 10% - 20% of escort ladies reviewed offer BBBJTC regularly.  I could be wrong though.

BBBJTC is a bonus not a must.  I will probably see a lady that offers BBBJ more often though not necessary for BBBJTC.  DFK is more important for me.

That's definately your choice. Seems like you are somewhat vexed by your perception of the percentages of us hobbyists who like BBBJTC. I would venture to guess that what you believe to be the numbers and the actual numbers are very different.

Most of the ladies I see do BBBJ, some do BBBJTC, CIM, Facial, etc. Do I enjoy BBBJ more than CBJ? HELL YES! Do I prefer a lady that does BBBJ than CBJ? HELL YES again! Is it a plus for BBBJTC, CIM, Facial, etc.? That’s another resounding YES!

There is a level of tactile and physical intimacy during uncovered oral that is just not there when I have a balloon on my hockey stick.

I don't know how business has been for you, but I sincerely hope that you do not feel compelled to compromise your standards due to the decrease in your clientele based on your perception of particular services rendered, whether real or imagined. I don't feel it would be good for you or your clients because it seems like your heart wouldn't be in it; and that would translate to less than complete customer satisfaction.

HPG

Yes. Willing to pay more for it. Even willing to get tested if it was required. I don't know if this is true of all males but I find that the most pleasurable sensations occur after ejaculation. Having a provider continue to administer oral in what I have heard referred to as pch (post cum head) is absolutely mind blowing..  If done right, I am screaming.. Now I am addicted..

Considering the responses to your very valid and timely
question I would conclude that in respect to your own personal feelings toward BBBJTC and your fiscal bottom line. You could equate the added business revenue it generates as "hazzard" pay.

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I don't know where you're from, and as an Spectator pointed out this varies regionally, but your numbers surprise me, to say the least.  Here in San Diego I'd say it's the reverse. Well, OK, maybe 1 out of 8 or so offers this activity.

"I don't offer this service and my bookings have been slow."  I presume that your bookings were better before the recession.  If I had to choose a likelier cause for the change, I'd bet on the recession.  Beware the "after this therefore because of this"  (I'll spare you the Latin) fallacy.

I'd also caution you that posting a question of this type always draws a self-selected response pool, not a true cross section of the community.    

As for myself, I'll take BBBJTC if offered but it's rarely the deciding factor in who I'll see.  Other things are far more important to me.

Yes, required

Asking a man to settle for a CBJ almost always results in disappointment (it's like telling a little kid "you can savour that candy, but with the wrapper on"). My appreciation/affection/tip for a provider always drops down a notch when denied a BBBJ (I don't even bother asking for BBBJTC anymore, let alone PCH - the mere awkwardness and frustration of the inevitable bargaining/begging/haggling involved is a big turn-off).

My selection process seems to be one where I subconsciously screen out those who don't provide BBBJ (though as others have pointed out it's not absolutely the end-all and be-all of seeking out the company of high-quality providers).

But I think what really gets our goat is to be denied a BBBJ(TC)/CIM/facial/etc and then to find out later (from friends or reviews) that the provider was only being selective in who she lavished with her allegedly "not-available" services.... ARGH!

that there may be more to your "slow bookings" than just your unwillingness to perform a BBBJTC...How do you compete in other services you offer, with the Providers in your area..? I've heard the argument that BBBJ Providers get higher scores on their reviews and yet, I've seen Providers who offer FBSM only, get 8's and 9's....So there must be something else that's a factor. Maybe attitude....IMHO...

Then again, the local escort trade has more or less talked me out of doing anyone but MP girls locally. I save most of my hobby dollars for Germany, Brazil or Thailand, where this is (for the most part) a non-issue. Although it doesn't really pertain tot his thread, too many ladies are letting me know they're doing me the biggest favor taking my money, so I've decided to relieve them of the burden.

Is it my imagination, or has P4P become too politicalized as a result of these boards? One thing I'm really weary of, and that's the "I got a BBBJ and now there's a three alarm blaze in my genital area" posts which used to come weekly, most likely written by a provider who won't provide BBBJ.

Specific acts are not that important in my selection process. Some ladies I see do and some ladies don't. If I can determine from reading reviews that a provider 1) loves her profession, 2) loves people and 3) gives 100%, then we have so much fun that particular acts are not an issue.

No, and your percentage rate seems high to me.

I have a couple fine women I see frequently and we cover everything.

If you want more business offer what the clients are looking for or get out of the business. This is not about what you want. It is about what is a guy's fantasy. If you can train your body to accept covered anal you can laugh all the way to the bank.

BBBJTC doesn't necessarily equate CIM, for the record. I mean you can give a guy an orgasm that way without jeapordizing your health; at least, if you are already offering BBBJ to begin with. If not, it's a whole 'nother issue you're asking about and I would NEVER suggest that anyone compromise their comfort zones for a buck.

Hugs*
Nicole

A BBBJ is a must for me.  I now scour the TER reviews regularly and will only see someone with a good review which states activities provided.  I have recently become addicted to BBJTC and will definately see an attractive provider who provides such.
As for your business, I agree with the post above.  If that's not what you're into, it's not what you're into.  Never do something you're not entirely comfortable with.

is the overall experience IMHO.  Everyone is different in what they are looking for.  One post below states that if you offer greek then you will be undoubtedly have arms full of gifts.  Not the case.  I offer greek, but not everyone is an enthusiast.  Case in point on diversity of the wants and needs of the gentlemen.  

Compromising yourself will not do anyone any good, for if you do something that you do not enjoy or want to do, it will show through without a word and make for a horrible experience for both parties.  The key, IMHO, is knowing yourself and what it is that makes your motor hum and connecting with those that are likeminded.  Of course it is about the gent, but how are you going to fulfill his needs without fulfilling your own at the same time?  It makes all the difference in the world for both of you.

Yes, the recession has had an affect on the biz.  Gents are much more frugal and understandably so.  Gents are a little more careful on how they spend their play money and scrutinize a bit more in their choices. I can only speak for what I experience in my little corner of the world.  Biz has been steady for me.  The gents aren't spending as lavishly as they did before the recession, but I do think that the gents do not have a doubt or question on what to expect when they do get together with me.  That I believe is half the battle there.  The comfort and reassurance of knowing beforehand that they are not going to be in for unexpected surprises.  

Perhaps scrutinizing your advertising will help.  There is a manner and way in which you can make things clear to any potential gentleman that is interesting in seeing you as to what you have to offer without question.  It may help.

Lauren  

BBBJ is certainly desireable but not the be all end all of a date. As a guy how is only interested in BJ's I do prefer BBBJ. but if done with enthusiasm a CBJ is fine. It's mainly the attitude of the lady.

It's not required from my standpoint.  However, one of the things I do not like is when a woman takes you over the edge and then pulls her mouth off to user her hand instead.  I'd rather she just stop doing it before I go over the edge.  Think of it a little bit like when a man is DATY, and just as you're about to orgasm, pulls off his mouth and starts using a finger instead.

I certainly prefer one.  It's one more factor in deciding whether I'll see the lady a second time... everything else being equal, the BBBJTCNQNS wins, followed by the BBBJTC, then BBBJ before covered finish, and finally CBJ.  

Of course, everything else is never equal.  My ATF does everything covered, but she's such an outstanding GFE in every other respect that it's OK.  My 1st-runner-up is BBBJTC but no CIM, but likewise is an outstanding experience (more PSE than GFE.)

I would never tell you to go outside your bounds of comfort.

I am relatively new to the business (within the past year).

As soon as a review mentioned I enjoyed doing BBBJTC, I noticed an immediate increase in the number of appointment requests. Business had been good from the beginning (my reviews were averaging 9's)--now it's great even with the recession.

So, it's obvious you guys really like it!

I do understand many providers' safety concerns about BBBJ/CIM.  I've evaluated the risks and benefits--for me I accept the risks; and since I really enjoy providing the experience, I will continue to do so.

Once a gentleman told me it had been 3 years since a CIM experience...another guy had never experienced it in his life (even with his wife of 15 years)...those kind of days leave us both with smiles on our faces.  

But, as everyone else states above, and I concur, if you have a good attitude, then the guys will keep coming back, even if there is no BBBJ or CIM. So, don't worry!  Take care!

You sound like fun. Just wondering do you have a website? Would like to know if we can meet if I'm in the general area. Thanks in advance.

Georgeous, you sound like a fun GFE.  Web address and city?

It's a nice to have, not a have to have.  The total experience is the key.  As of late, I've scheduled appointments at which the reviews said CBJ, and the reality was a BBBJTC.  My opinion:  the ladies go with their gut, and decide covered or no after observation and interaction.  Probably how I'd do it if the shoe was on the other foot too.

I agree...I too am new to TER, just since june 2002, and I average 2-3 clients a day and have stayed steady, even through the holdays. My appointments aren't all FS, but they all have involved BBBJ, or BBBJTC. It's not the reason I have repeat clients, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt. I also LOVE what I do and my sessions are all centered around my clients needs. That's why clients return. I personally, don't believe the resession is limiting Hobbying, but rather the fact that men don't have to "settle" for Providers that have a laundry list of "Don'ts", when there are quality Providers that will cater to their every need. I've actually had clients who were surprised when I took their hand and placed it on my pussy or breasts, during a massage..!!! They're even amazed that I give a "REAL" massage...!!! It makes me sad when I hear, that they had been getting that kind of service in the past and actually felt they weren't entitled to more..!!! As new Providers enter this business and offer everything a Hobbyist deserves, the girls that are in this for easy money and a means to an end, will see less and less of these guys money...I for one am excited about that...Kisses

Amen...  I find that almost all providers stop right away, so I assume most guys prefer a quick halt.  Too bad, because I agree that if done right, it can be an amazing thing.  The problem is I'm not sure how to describe what "done right" means.  The head ends up being so sensitive that too much attention ends up being way too much, but at the same time, just stopping leaves a lot of perfectly good hyper-sensitivity unused.

A couple of replies have said that BBBJTC does not mean CIM.  Am I missing something here?  A BBBJ "almost to completion" with a last second getaway isn't BBBJTC, so I'm not sure how BBBJTC is not CIM.

In my opinion with a BBBJ you never finish you go down and at some point start the main activity.  With a BBBJTC you actually finish but you finish it off by hand or you can do a BBBJTC/CIM.

Tell you what:  first, I seldom get off from BJ, whether BBBJ or covered. Second, I don't really enjoy the thought of DFK after delivering a load. Third, I've never met a pussy that wasn't better than a mouth, so that where I choose TC.  YMMV.

Don't ruin the acronym just because you want to *claim* you finish when you don't.  TC means CIM.  If you don't take CIM, then you BBBJ with HJ or facial.  I already have to type too much just to say the girl swallowed: BBBJTCWS or BBBJTCNQNS.  Under your interpretation, I'd have to say: BBBJTCCIMWS or BBBJTCCIMNQNS!

Because my reviews almost all say BBBJTC but no one ever comes in my mouth.

To Completion to me means To orgasm... Not Cums in Mouth. Or why'd there be a specific term for that anyways? Obviously others feel that way too or my reviews wouldn't say what they do.  

Believe me, I can make you THINK you came in my mouth without putting my health at risk and without ruining the moment for you. (No, don't muddle the point. The gents know afterwards, just not in the moment. When they look up and their cock has been encased by my cum covered tits, they know they did NOT cum in my mouth.)

AnonGirl

Sorry you feel that way but thats the feeling I get from reading different posts and reviews, from what I get you take BBJ and add whatever happened and from what I see BBBJTC just means till completion doesn't state how it was complete just that it was.  Why would you have to say BBBJTCCIM if you just say BBBJCIM with the CIM added one would know that the provider completed the activity.

BTW hun....read all of my post I always finish what I start. *smile*

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What are you a magician??  If you can *not* have me cum in your mouth while I'm lookiing right at you, that would surpass the David Blaine levitation trick!  That would be pretty funny...nothing up my sleaves. LOL