Oh my fucking Gawd!! Most likely to draw out moronic imbeciles like you who have so much time on their sweaty little hands that they love to find things to nitpick. Stop wringing those wet little palms you are dripping on the carpet and follow her instructions unless you are uncomfortanle with the latched/unlatched issue and if such is the case BOUNCE on out of there so you don't waste her time with your sniveling.
Hello,
A question for Providers:
Why do some providers keep the door locked after texting the room number while others keep them unlocked?
I've found that it is much more convenient to get to the room and open it without having to knock the door and wait, while the hotel staff eyes me which does make me uncomfortable.
In my case, most providers have gone thru my okays and 411 profile.
Hence am wondering what could the reasons be.
Thanks,
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It's a Pop Psychology thing. When you are home alone, do you close the bathroom door when you pee?
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Even if you want to argue that an unlocked door or a door slightly ajar is more welcoming, you still have to overcome whatever kind of upbringing or experiences you have had.
I don't think it's pop psychology, but it is how we were raised. I grew-up out in the country. While our front door was generally unlocked, there was a shotgun propped around the corner along with loaded Marlin lever-actions in most rooms in the house. We also had a very well-trained German Shepherd -- so only a foolish stranger would have walked-in unannounced.
These days I live in metro Detroit, so the front door is always locked. But because of how i was raised, there is still a shotgun and Marlin along with a few handguns within easy reach.
In a hotel room, my door remains locked most of the time. But to avoid needless knocks, I guess I need to modify my SOP when a lady is visiting.
... when you stay in a hotel, or do you leave it cracked open (the only way most hotel doors will stay unlocked) so that anyone--housekeeping, a curious guest etc.--can walk in unannounced?
I keep the door closed (hence locked) when staying at a hotel.
Sure, one keeps door locked at all times. But key is - "After texting the room number" once provider knows that the entrance is imminent.
Also, if there are issues with keeping the door Unlocked NOT opened, why would some providers feel comfortable with that? They have explicitly asked NOT to knock the door.
in my experience, it has been much better when door has been unlocked so that I could enter without knocking.
So Court, did you lock the door before or after you found out snails where on the menu? lol
Really, some of you guys bitch about trivial shit. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a young lady to teach how to ride.
Oh my fucking Gawd!! Most likely to draw out moronic imbeciles like you who have so much time on their sweaty little hands that they love to find things to nitpick. Stop wringing those wet little palms you are dripping on the carpet and follow her instructions unless you are uncomfortanle with the latched/unlatched issue and if such is the case BOUNCE on out of there so you don't waste her time with your sniveling.
Seems as though these days there are plenty of hotels that have doors that cannot be left unlocked - you have to prop them open somehow.
Honestly though, I think this is a total non-issue. Having to wait in the hallway for 5 seconds shouldn't be a big deal.
Use the key cards now, and those cannot be left unlocked. The door locks automatically when its closed. Be honest, are you seeing BP and CL girls at motel 6? Not judging, just curious because I haven't seen a hotel door without keycard access in about 20 years, and I don't always stay at 5 star properties when I'm traveling on business.
which you can do with keycard access. Just saying...
Steph XO
in lingerie with lube on the nightstand, would YOU leave the door ajar. I wouldn't, but then again, I don't wear lingerie. Just seems like an unnecessary risk. Most of the hotels that have keycard access also have a peep hole to see who's standing there.
If I know a friend is on the way up I may leave the door ajar. Particularly if I'm dressed and we're heading out and about before retiring bcd. And I usually have my lube in a drawer when someone first enters my room. And of COURSE I know about peepholes...sigh. It's worked just fine for me so far.
keep the door unlocked / open once you have given the provider the room number?
If they're rushing to get ready they might give you the go ahead to come up to the room, but actually aren't quite ready and are counting on the few minutes for you to get there to finish getting ready -- and therefore have the door locked to so you can't come it before they are ready.
Though that's never happened to me. More often they open as soon as I knock, but even more often, they open the door like magic just as I stand in front of the peep-hole.
I guess I'll try to clarify multiple points in one post instead of adding multiple posts.
Not an issue waiting in the hallway or knocking unless, as I encountered a couple of times recently, where the staff were staring/observing while I was knocking, which wasn't comforting.
Now, could this be a POC issue that causes this? It sometimes is and hence the need not be anymore conspicuous then one needs to be specially when I see some providers propping the door open or leaving key card in the slot etc. that avoid knocking and waiting.
I did mention about okays and so no BP/CL. I try to stick with only multiple reviewed ones mostly from 411 or agencies.
For outcalls, yes I've left door propped with latch a couple of min after texting room number.
For safety I keep my door locked and closed even though i gave the room number out and i know my date is coming up sometimes guest at hotels get lost and try to come in or put their key in your door. Its happened to me several times and i've also been the one after drinking too much going to the wrong door lol also what if the unfortunate happens and LE is in the hall going after another guest . to avoid any issues i keep door closed and locked
LOL. Once the gent has called I know about how much time I have until he arrives. I use a plastic card, like the ones they put on the beds for the maid information, and open the door - insert the card so the lock won't engage. It is fabulous! Clients can walk right in...
However, it does seem that there is ALWAYS someone who knocks...
LOL
xo
Jazz
Yup. A lady did that very thing with me earlier this year. When she texted me the room # she said don't knock, just come in and pick up the paper that falls when you do. Worked great. Glad to say I wasn't "that guy" who knocked anyway. LoL.
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And that is exactly my point.
Some people might have missed this but what I'm talking about is the time when the visit is IMMINENT. Room number has been texted and person is on his/her way.
No-one is asking to keep door unlocked/propped at all times.
At an incall I don't leave my front door propped open for anyone to just walk it, it's common sense- privacy, the last line of defense before seeing a client, comfort, etc.
If it's a hotel, they are made to lock automatically. I would never prop open the door for someone's convenience when anyone could walk in.
If it's my home, my door is always locked as well. What stops anyone from walking in?
I hope this isn't a serious question. :::face palm::::
.... having clients knock on the hotel room door is not a good idea.
I spend a lot of time in hotels lol and I can tell you that it's pretty rare to hear anyone other than housekeeping knocking on doors. So it can draw attention.
Now in some big resort type places & destinations, there may typically be a lot of hallway commotion where it would go unnoticed.
But speaking from my personal experience? It's best not to have anyone knocking.
I wait at the door, watching through the peephole, once I've given him the room number.
If for some reason I cannot do that, I will leave it ajar. But then, I'm not naked or even nearly-naked so it's not as big a concern for me as it is for the lingerie-clad ladies. LOL.
That is exactly my point. Thanks
Plus being a POC, it seems to me (rightly or wrongly) that staff take notice of me more than they do others. So perhaps POC can chime in as to which one they prefer - Knocking OR propped (remember ONLY when visit is imminent).
Also, I've never been at an incall where I've seen someone else knocking on other doors. When I've knocked, I've been the only one doing that in a very quiet lobby.
And I found the experience of going in without knocking to be better. That is why I asked the "inane' question 
Even I, as a POP (Person of Pallor), have occasionally felt a little more noticed than I really wanted to be. I have no doubt you get more of that.
I've always kind of assumed that hotel staff basically know what's going on, especially the housekeepers, who change the sheets and towels and empty the wastebaskets. I still feel more comfortable (and imagine they do too) when everything is as much under the radar as possible.
Exactly my point.
When I know that as a POC, I'm under a closer observation than others, I see no reason to draw more attention. But not many people try to understand this ..... sigh....
I dress in a full outfit, I don't answer the door in lingerie, even for regulars. So I can do this.
I used to keep the door propped, but as of late, I have been encountering some true gentlemen who, even though I have notified them that the door was propped, they still stood there and knocked. One was knocking for a minute or so when the door was open while I was waiting in the bedroom in a suite.
So after a while, I was like screw this lol. I'm not going to talk to a grown man about something that petty to improve the system. He has his way of doing things, and it's not much to accommodate.
Nowadays, in order to accommodate everybody, I stand by the door, wait until I see them, and when I see them, I wiggle the door knob, they turn and look, I start pulling the door open. They walk over and push it open.
I've got it down to a T with all different guys. You still get that one guy who still knocks as the door is pulling open lol!
I believe I see a bunch of people who are very routine type people, and they just automatically do the little stuff.
I don't want anybody standing in the hall knocking, feeling like a "John". I personally don't like anybody noticing my door is propped, or anybody knocking on my door. I hear people talk about knowing the propped doors are escorts. So in my world, I just don't want anyone knowing I'm about to, or just, fucked. That's my business, and not even another escort's business - in person - at a hotel.
If I don't like the world knowing I'm fucking, why would I do that to somebody else?
Also, your extrapolation on the being noticed as a POC, that's a very good point, didn't think of that. Thanks for explaining.
The first provider I saw explained this to me and stated that I should jiggle the door, ie, try to open it without a key, so that it makes a noise, but not knock on the door, because, as you say, who knocks on a hotel room door? This still sends the provider a signal "I'm here" but is more subtle than a knock.
It's true that it's rare for anyone outside of housekeeping to knock on a hotel room door, but it's very common for people to fumble with the door because the card key was put in the wrong way, didn't scan correctly, etc. So, messing with the door in this way is a good way to announce yourself and still keep a very low profile.
OTOH, over the years, I've decided that the guests in the hotels are mostly clueless about what we're doing and the staff, while they may know, really don't care. So, it's an extra bit of caution, but I think largely a non-issue.
... "The Door Magically Opened" and that's the smoothest way of all.
but since she's expecting you... she gave you the room number not 2 minutes ago... I don't know why the gal is not ready by the door.
If I am staying in a hotel & my companion is in the room, I'd likely give a gentle knock. Even if the door was ajar... I'd knock gently or otherwise announce myself. Asside from setting the door on the safety bar... what choices are there.
Well, she could close the door on a thin cardboard or plastic so it closes but the catch doesn't drop in. But could she teach the clients to push it open?
I've found that it is much more convenient to get to the room and open it without having to knock the door and wait, while the hotel staff eyes me which does make me uncomfortable.
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Have you ever been to a conference or convention where you knew people staying at the local hotels?
[bang! bang! bang!] [shouting thru door] "Hay! Come on! Your presentation is in 10 minutes! Wake up! Let's move it!"
[knock knock] [door opens] "Come on. We're supposed to meet the others at the bar before dinner."
[tap tap] ... [tap tap] ... [door opens] "Let's skip the plenary lecture and have a quickie in your room. No one will ever know."
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Or friends or relatives? [knock knock] "Hay, Cuz? Can I borrow your swim trunks? They got some strange rules for using the pool at this dump."
[knock knock] [door opens] "Hay, Cuz. Can you lend me $500 cash? I'll pay you back later from the ATM. Right now, I have a date on the 23rd floor with a top rated TER Provider ... and I'm not supposed to knock."
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No knocking? They should just wire the doors to set off an alarm and signal LE if anyone other than hotel staff knock on the door.
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And remember: NEVER USE A CELL PHONE IN A HOTEL!!! It's a dead give away that you are there for an illegal tryst. After all, no one else has a reason to use a cell phone in a hotel, only drug dealers and other miscreants, like us!
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I suggest that we convene a conference on this topic at a mutually agreeable 4 or 5 star hotel. Submit your abstracts on-line by the 25th.
People are so paranoid sometimes.
Could be,,, but in my case, as I've mentioned before, i'm the only one knocking,,,, have never seen the kind of scenario you outlined while visiting a provider.
So, unless you're a POC and the only one knocking on the door, this topic is going to wiz past you
You are taking this POC shit too fucking seriously. If you had a buddy staying in a hotel and were there to pick him up for drinks would you give even a single fuck if housekeeping saw you knock of his door? If you were staying at a hotel with your GF and left your key in the room would you be worried about someone seeing you knock at your own door?
Newsflash. POC stay at hotels too. Just because you are Black or Brown, or fucking green for that matter no one is going to give a fuck about you knocking at the door of a hotel room. Get over yourself, you simply aren't that important to other people going about their own business.
Twice in 3 weeks, I experienced hotel staff peeking back in at me in the corridor while I was knocking. They were on their way to the hallway perpendicular to me and for them to come back, peek and stare was not comforting. That is what made me realize the difference between open and locked doors and why some experienced providers had explicitly asked me not to knock but come right in.
I had no need to think about this so far because I hadn't experienced the 'stare' before. And yes POC eat, shop, stay like others and are still observed a bit more closely. So no matter what you say, my point as a POC is to be extra careful just because of this extra attention.
I don't give a fuck what hotel staff thinks as I am in and out of hotels all the time, both for regular and monkey business. Like I said before, if you were NOT there to see a hooker and instead were knocking on your buddy's or co workers door, would you really be aware of any kind of "stare", of course not. You only notice because of your guilty conscience.
I know you are new at this, and I promise to be nice to you on the newbie board, but if you insist on acting like a moron on the GD board, I promise you that's how I am going to start treating you. When these people give you "the stare" what is it that you believe they are thinking? Do you really believe they are thinking, "look at the non white guy, I bet you he is here to see a puta"??? lmao
So you're saying that I should have created this post in the Newbie forum
Sure, guilty conscience and self-consciousness do play a part in all of this, no doubt. If I were visiting a friend/colleague then definitely I wouldn't care.
What I was trying to do is compare the experience difference between locked/knocking and unlocked door (which was further compounded by my recent experience) and finding out why some providers keep doors unlocked and explicitly mention 'no knocking'. And these providers are really experienced ones who also provide information such as lobby layout, elevator location etc. etc. which makes it a breeze to go in. No need to ask staff any questions. So they must be knowing something which leads them to do this.
The whole point of a "no knock" policy is to attract as LITTLE attention as possible, especially for a high volume girl.
If a girl asks you not to knock, but then leaves you hanging in the hallway, that is DEFINITELY "her bad" not yours. Your race has nothing to do with it.
As for posting this on the Newbie board, at least I would not have called you a moron there, I would have thought it, but I wouldn't have said it, not out loud at least. lol
A lot of agency girls, especially Asian agency girls have this policy of asking you not to knock, but 99% of the time, the door will just open magically the moment you walk up to it. It shouldn't be more than once in a hundred times that such a girl leaves you hanging in the hallway.
Afterall, they just don't know who's behind the door, and that's probably just their way of maintaining some sense of security and control of the situation. Maybe it's a false sense of safety when you consider that anything can happen once she lets you in, but then again, you just don't know what might have happened in her past that made her feel apprehensive about leaving her personal space vulnerable, even for 1 sec. And even if it's not your first time with her, she still has to consider the risk of being targeted by LE, robbers, rapists, irate customers who left and came back, and angry husbands who are still in shock from freshly uncovering her secret career. So don't take it personally because she's probably not doing it out of spite.
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I'm thinking she might have forgotten to unlock the door (hotel room doors lock when closed, as I'm sure you know) or is just super safe and keeps it locked in case housekeeping (or anyone else) comes by and sees it open. If you prefer the door to be unlocked, ask her politely to leave it open.
1. There could be several other providers on the same floor. A client from another provider on the floor could be given wrong room number (that has happened to me before).
2. Hotel is not safe.
3. Nosy hotel staff
4. Provider wants to see what you look like and keep you out if you look like a creep. She might want to find out if you have and extra bag on you or another person coming with you. They do that prevent from being robbed or other bad things happening.
