I fully understand guys getting the "mangina" label for certain things. I'm trying to figure out why bringing a bottle of wine or a gift like a small box of chocolates is being a mangina.

And you're adding to the weight inflation problem...and from what I've read the gals would rather have this anyhow.  Oh..and don't forget to bring the rubbers and some tampons she'll need later.  And take the dog for a walk and take the trash out

Personally I think gifting is sappy, and makes the client appear unprofessional.

It's when guys fall all over themselves to "court" a provider that the label is truly earned.

I doubt anyone here will call me a mangina, unless they have added an "asshole" category to the term, but I have brought both wine and chocolates to sessions in the past. Actually I have only brought chocolates once, and we washed those down with the bottle of Patron I brought, (that was the first time I have mixed tequila with chocolate, and they went rather well together) but wine I have brought many times, of course we almost always end up drinking it together.

In short I don't believe there is any one act that defines a mangina, it's more of an attitude, just check out ROGM or Turdwell for any helpful hints on the subject.

Maybe you and Pimpathy should have a talk. Looks like you're not professional. How does one become a "professional" hobbyist, though? Doesn't that mean that the hobbyist is getting paid?

Didn't you follow the thread yesterday?  Bring a fucking bakers dozen of glazed donuts for some of these gals.  And don't throw more guilt on that...make sure you bring a 2 liter bottle of some diet cola.  

and Pimples is TSTTT, he is just like that annoying elevator music. You know it's there, but you do your best to ignore it.

Whether it be hobbyist, dickhead, or asshole... keep it professional grade.

.where the service/commodity offered doesn't(IMO( equal its pricetag. Do you takw a gift to your attorney(still not mrfisher)? Dentist? Physician? In many female cases*psychiatrist*?

However, I've taken books, gift cards, penile extensions etc....so what do I know

I think the women that see some of the jerks they do should be charging quadruple. You immediately come to mind. Actually they should just flat out reject your lame ass out of the gate. In other words, they should show you the same amount of "respect" you show them. And we can call it even.

When I first began I did the gifting thing because the ladies said it "was not necessary, but greatly appreciated." Dummy me, I thought it would raise the level of the session to penultimate heights. I eventually learned my lesson, fully realized the parameters and expectations of these relationships, and concluded that paying $400 to $800 an hour , and repeating my business, is gift enough. I agree with GAG, nothing wrong with bringing a bottle of wine that the two of you can share and enjoy. But this isn't Match.con, and the only courting that needs to be done is handing over the envelope.

Mangina's aren't born, they are created. It evolves, over time, by listening to the hookers and drooling over their "Pamper Me" page on their website.

If your gift is essentially trivial - and you truly believe that it is trivial - then you haven't tried to exert control.  

The client isn't a professional.  The hooker is.  Jesus.  Are you terminally confused or don't understand the meaning of simple words?

And, yes, my real name is Chuck L.


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...bring a gift. Back in the day when homosexuality was considered the 'unforgivable crime against nature,' guys frequently berated gentleman's behavior by calling him a queer. This didn't make anyone gay, but it could embarrass him in public and many times caused a fistfight. Today, such guys have been pretty much silenced as regards their flippant or vicious use of that accusation, so those of that ilk now call honorable men "manginas."

Why any of you guys give a shit about what other guys do or don't do.  Or for that matter, who authorized you to be the "mangina police" and try to "correct" inappropriate behavior (as you perceive it) by shaming and bullying.

She just got smoked in that last thread so no need to bring up Ms. Steele here. Have some manners.

...that somehow the women are taking their hard-earned money for what they should be entitled to get for free. They want to standardize behavior and get us to stop romancing each other. "Strictly business!" Is their demand. Takes the fun out of it. Out here we have just what they're trying to invent at a low flat rate appropriate to any budget. Some establishments provide blow holes as a service. Personally, I imagine it to be a pretty dry experience.

Is that non-mangina enough?

Next think you know men will be taking women to restaurants instead of locking them in the kitchen to do "women's work".

sheesh, do we have to teach you everything? lol

When I first started posting in here I couldn't figure out what the word even was (I was pronouncing Gina like the girls name). I could deduce through context that it was being delivered as an insult but it took quite sometime for me to figure that one out. I will say that I'm a bit like the Sheldon character on "The Big Bang Theory" in that I don't always get sarcasm at first, especially in here because you can't hear voice inflection or see body language. But I sure am interested in reading the different definitions.

But, I'll take your word for it

is that, unfortunately, every assh*t who tries to bounce through a provider's boundaries makes it tougher for ME to have a good time.   Being friendly, polite and reasonably respectful is not being a mangina.

Professional  

When the music's over
Turn off the lights
Turn off the lights.

Or a jackrabbit that's been living on sagebrush? That's where figuring out this Gina shit leads to. Forget it. Drink more Maker's Mark. I'm impressed that as an Ambassador you've got a barrel with your name on it. I don't. That makes you less Gina than me. Settle for that and be happy.

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

before you found something that proves your point.  But context is important, too.  And in this case context says your use of "professional" when said person is paying a real professional is idiotic.  Nice try though.

G7  

It's a classic contradiction in terms.