There is small thread on the LA Board about the fact that the rates that ladies charge and the rates posted in their reviews don't always correspond. There are a number of reason for the phenomenon and I am not blaming anyone. However I would like to propose a simply solution.

Proposal: When you post a review, in the Juicy Details, you say how much you paid for the session and how long you stayed.

This is something we can do ourselves and it will not require Staff to rewrite the software running the site. Since it will be in the Juicy Details section, it will only be available to members and members alrready see the posted rates.

I do suggest that you don't say "I paid her $500 an houor for her to ...." Just simply start your text with something like: $500: 1 hour, followed by what you would normally write.

Staff would you have a problem with adding this to our reviews?

If a provider has various rates and/or services rendered (i.e. cbj vs. bbbj) would it be out of line for a perspective hobbyist to pm a hobbyist that has left a review for that particular provider??

Michael, what you are proposing is VERY unfair to the provider.  Example:

Providers "Normal Rate" is $300.00
Her rate of $300 is posted on TER
She has a really slow week and does a session for $200
The member posts that she only charged him $200
Every other member after that expects the $200 price.

This is not fair and exactly the reason our software does not display the price for every session.  If there is an inaccuracy in the posted price, please click the "Report a problem" button to help us update the provider’s info.

In the future, if you wish to post a suggestion, please feel free to post in on our Suggestions/Policy Board.    

http://theeroticreview.com/discussion/suggestions/

-- Staff

Have to agree with staff

There are times, when I will do a session at a discounted rate. But, I don't offer this discount all the time, nor to everyone (for reasons of my own). I think whatever the normal rate is, of the provider, should always be listed, not her discounted rate.

Simply,

Mel

While I agree in terms of discounts, I'd disagree when the provider requires additional "tipping" for full service.

I'm not sure about other ladies, but the donations listed on TER for me, are lower than what is on my website. I was under the impression that because gentlemen are VIP's, they would appreciate a lowered donation. So, I guess I'm confused when someones says that a review indicated an even lower donation? Are gentlemen expecting something even lower than what is displayed? As Mel stated above, one may have a friend who visits often and maybe as an additional courtesy for them for some personal reason, the companion makes an exception that particular time. This shouldn't be accepted as the rule, but the exception. I think it may be a good idea for ladies to say to that particular friend, if/when being reviewed, to suggest that they not post the "special" donation that was made as a courtesy to them.

There are so many varying reasons to rates for each gentleman.  Some are grandfathered in at an old rate for one.  Some are given discounts for memberships.  Some are very frequent visitors and are given a reduced rate because of that.  There are specials, special events for regulars and so many other factors.  The list can go on and on and on.

Lauren

Just because a provider has a reason to discount a session doesn't mean it should be a secret.  Also, H-guys shouldn't be stupid enough to expect a lower price just 'cause someone else got it.  After all, it is a highly personalized service, and so is the price.

As a member, I value such information, especially when a number of providers post multi-hour minimums and steeply increasing rates on their sites.  I can think of more than two in my area who have raised posted minimums more than once in a year and a half.  I respect their ability to do so, but TER is the ONLY (well, one of very few) venue where we can assess how often a provider captures higher rates.

Your thoughts, Hobson?

Because what conditions that are stipulated in a session, is between my client and I. If I met a gentleman for a session and I gave him a discount, he chose to write that on a review, then I would have to offer it to everyone (sorry, I don't). I only offer it to loyal clients, who have seen me more than 2 times. On the 3rd time, and if he asks, I would be happy to offer him a discount for that session or extend it for life (depending on how long he has seen me for).

Mel



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While everyone would know that you gave him a discount, and presumably, why you did so, I'm not sure that would necessarily obligate you to extend that discount to others.  If someone asked for it, citing your giving it to another, I'm sure a polite explanation of your policy, as you just wrote, would suffice.  It might even motivate him to see you again, if that's why you gave the discount.

I have had more and more gents look at what's on the Profile and assume that's the rate, not understanding that everything that's written there is what was laid in stone by the first, original reviewer.
Unless someone knows and understands that, it (all) can be very misleading.
It would be nice if something was written there to indicate that very thing such as "information stated in Providers Profile is from first reviewer - please refer to her website for current information and rates" or something to that effect.
Of course, you'd like to presume that they look at the website BEFORE setting the date just to be sure they have accurate information.

Frank ...

You defined the nature of the problem yourself:

""H-guys shouldn't be stupid enough to expect a lower price just 'cause someone else got it. ""

If guys we're stupid in the FIRST PLACE .. they wouldn't chase after sex like puppy dogs and give half the women in the world the power position.  They'd tell their women right up front "You're in my life as a stress reducer, not a stress producer and if I don't get all the sex I want, any time I want, any WAY I want ... I'll get it from someone else and you can pack your bags."

We're basic, primal PIGS (hence the name).....  the only thing that saves us is ......

We own everything and control all the earnable wealth

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

over and over to every guy who wants the discounted rate, if seen on my review? lol I don't have time to be at my computer all day long, and that is why I have a website, where my rates are. Also, that is another reason why that the actual rate should be listed on TER purrr

Mel

I am pretty sure that providers may meet a client a certain chemistry happened.

So always look for the label

Mel

I did ask for your opinion and that should have been on the Suggestions Board, sorry about that.

I appears that the providers don't like the idea of reviewers showing discounts, but as someone new to this hobby I'd find the actual rate information really healpful. It could be something simple like "tiping required", or rate as overtised or simply $ signs to indicate how much per hour.  Then there's no surprises for anyone. I hate the bait and switch where the rate avertised is the agency rate and the provider asks for a couple extra $$ to do anything!

No problem MichealCA,

You are an INCREDIBLE help to TER.  Please don't take my message as being mean.  Your suggestion was just in the wrong spot.

My response was written at 7:53 AM.  This is generally before the first cup of coffee

-- Staff

My actual rate is the fee for us to meet. As for tipping, I don't require it. If you want to offer it, I would be happy to accept it, but I personally think it's rude to even ask for it. Nor, shall I ever do so.

Suggestion: You might want to go into the provider's actual website, to see if it states that no tipping ever required. When someone is going to see me, everything is inclusive, and no additional funds for this or that, is ever needed

I hope it helps..

Mel

I agree with all the comments about specials, deals for long time regulars, etc.  I'll add that such information overload would be more confusing than helpful.  

As Sedona has pointed out, basic rates in the world change over time while those on TER profiles are usually frozen in time.  I've seen a few exceptions.  Her suggestions are excellent as far as they go.  But some providers choose not to put rate information on their websites, and others have no website at all.  They just advertise on one or more "malls".  And some of us clients (I hate the term hobbyist almost as much as I hate the use of access as a verb) choose to see some of these providers.

I've just thought of something that might help AND be practical.  I'll jump over to the suggestions board and post it there.

Upselling is something else entirely.  It is almost always described in the review when it happens.  Hell, that's how I know about it.  Of course you have to read the reviews, not just scan the profile.

I'm sure you would never "upsell" or hold out on "luxury services" for big tippers only.  If the truth be told, no provider has ever done this to me.

But if I believe 10% of what I read, it's a pretty common problem and ought to be reported when it does happen.

up in discussion boards, a posting about that by MichaelCA in here is not such a bad idea.

As far as his suggestion is concerned, I do have second thoughts about it especially after the recent posts in LA boards about lady's asking rate.

I have to echo your comment that MichaelCA has done a fantastic job as moderator of several boards.

Please continue the good works, you two.

Take care and happy hobbying.

GC

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that in many cases providers do not want to discuss rates on the telephone or via email.  And in some cases the rate information is not current on her site let alone on the TER Profile.

Melinda,

I've had nothing but good experiences since I've discovered TER's reviews.

Prior to that, I've had MANY bad ones.  Half the time, exhorbitant tips were asked for before ANY contact would take place.  The girl almost never looked anything like her description.  You get the idea.

Given the fact that you're here and post to the boards, I'm sure you're one of the lovely ladies who has the looks, personality and integrity to be successful without having to resort to such tactics.

Well, sure.  Who would?  I was just proposing a solution in the event that someone did try that.  You make it sound like every dude and his brother would run to you asking for the discount, and I'm not sure that would happen.

I would agree, though, that this board is misleading in that there's no disclaimer of any sort.  However, it's a message board; it's opinion-driven by definition.

Can't you simply write to the TER administation staff and ask them to change the rates on all your reviews to the newesr price?  I wrote them and had them take my phone number off my reviews and they did it.  I would imagine they would help out with this as well.

would come searching for a discount. You need to realize that I do get emails asking for discounts from men that I have never met before (the nerve, huh? lol). So in the case scenerio that you described, it does happen lol

Mel

I don't think there should be a place for discounted or special pricing, but too often I get to a provider and she informs me the TER rate is 50 or 100 low.  I usually put this in the details as being a mistake or old rate but the updated rate never seems to make it into the rate area.  

Then on other girls there are 4 or 5 lines of rates that don't seem to differ in service but differ greatly in price.

That is an issue I have found in a couple of places.  I saw the lady reviewed on TER with her rate and did not check that page on her web site.  I found out later (when confirming via e-mail) what her correct donation was (it had gone up $50).  I had no problem with the increase, but it could have been embarassing if I had not known.

Not an easy problem to fix....