How I screened you.
Where I live, beyond anything I have written myself in my ads.
My security code or apartment number or home address. If the girl uses a guest house on a property, do NOT write "I entered by the side-gate along a path to the guest house in back." Do not write that the provider's residence is "secluded" or that she lives there too.
Do not write if I live alone or with another(s)?
Description of my home, i.e. mentioning anything worth stealing that might catch someone's attention as in DO NOT MENTION the type of car a girl drove. I hate reading "So and so drove up in a brand new Jaguar." (I have read that about another girl)
Bascially don't write something about girl that you wouldn't want posted about yourself.
If you had a bad experience, do not make the girl out to be the Anti-Christ or in anyway write crap that could cause an unstable person to try to "retaliate" against her.
Use your brain, think before writing and follow The Golden Rule.
Summer was a good friend of mine and I'm crushed like all of you. Her mom didn't know about her escorting. I'm sure she does now, and its quite a shock.
So I'd like for us to do something as a group. After reading Top's and Celtic Lass's wonderful memories, and thinking of the great private moments she and I spent laughing over drinks in Georgetown, I request that everyone please pull together your favorite Summer stories and send them to me.
But I'd like to give them to her mother or have someone do that. So instead of calling her Summer and writing racy ones, please remember these stories, thoughts and memories will be sent to her Mother and her family. If you want to send them to me, I'll be happy to pull them all together in an edited form.
My email is [email protected].
But please remember, these are for her Mom to help ease the pain of her loss. And please call her Theresa in your notes. You don't need to sign them if that makes you uncomfortable.
I'll be happy to post the collection if people want to see it, or maybe some of us can share them at a memorial service or something. I'm 3000 miles away right now, and its about the only thing I can think of to help.
We have lost a wonderful friend today. A light has gone out in many of our lives. And a great smile and that adorable giggle too. She will not be forgotten.
Rick2
[email protected]
was one of the most energetic, happy providers to grace DC. Her love of animals, her eclectic sense of humor and her compassion set her apart in many ways.
Some one attacked Summer in her home day before yesterday and beat her so savagely she was on lifesupport until last evening at 7:55 when her mom flew in from Florida to remove her little girl. Incidentally Summer was on the phone with her mother when she was attacked.
Summer was not everyones cup of tea. There has been posts to that effect everywhere. But what you can never dispute about Summer was her dedication and love when the community needed help. Last year when Tammy from DC fell ill, Summer helped organize people to go visit and pay their respects. And when Tammy passed, it was Summer who was asked to organize the wake and everything went off beautifully.
She was loud and really rowdy at times. But she was also kind and sweet and generous to a fault. To lose her and Alexis in one week makes me numb. I just have so much anger and pain built up. If you knew Summer then by all means send your stories to Rick. If you have any of Alexis, sign the lovely memorial page that have been set up for her. These are great tributes to women who touched many lives in this business.
Take the time and look at the posts, if you did not know Summer you may get a feel for her now.
xoxox
Lass
The Vegas party that was held in Jan of '02.... We were all
Superstaaaaazzzzz!!!!!!
She was the one!
How do I see her website, so I can get a picture of who we are talking about?
How do you suppose it is that both these ladies were killed in their own homes? They did in-home incalls? The killers broke in? The ladies knew them?
I don't feel like seeing anyone now..do any of you feel this way? I don't even want to see my emails or listen to voice mail..
This must be the second or third story of a provider murder that I've come across just this last month. What for the love of God is going on!? Can anyone explain the blackness in the hearts of these savage brutal men? What do they want from us? Our bodies are not enough so they must take our lives too?
What's happened to this world? How did it get this way?
Good night, sweet Summer.
And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.
at times like this it's not easy to come up with words, except those of others perhaps.
But what has been will be --
First memory, then oblivion's swallowing sea;
Like those foregone, shall we merge into those
Whose story no one knows.
For which of us could hope
To show in life that world-awakening scope
Granted the few whose memory none lets die,
But all men magnify?
We were but Fortune's sport;
Things true, things lovely, things of good report
We neither shunned nor sought ... We see our bourne,
And seeing it we mourn.
-- "The To-be-forgotten" by Thomas Hardy
I have sent letters to three women I care about, asking them to screen more thoroughly than they did when I first saw them. But let me ask some of the ladies:
Other than the obvious of providing reasonable information asked for What do YOU think the men in this activity can do to improve your safety?
You can start by stop revealing too much personal info or how we screen on review boards or to other men. You can start by actually taking into account your safety before you posts anything or share info about us anywhere.
Thank you!
Talisa
Thanks for the reply. OK, I’m going to ask for a little elaboration: I have always tried to put in a little “personal” information to help describe a “real” picture of a Lady. Usually some of the obvious physical and personality traits. Certainly no names, phone #s, etc., beyond what she might have on her web site. What kinds of information would you like to see NOT posted? I ask this with all sincerity.
How I screened you.
Where I live, beyond anything I have written myself in my ads.
My security code or apartment number or home address. If the girl uses a guest house on a property, do NOT write "I entered by the side-gate along a path to the guest house in back." Do not write that the provider's residence is "secluded" or that she lives there too.
Do not write if I live alone or with another(s)?
Description of my home, i.e. mentioning anything worth stealing that might catch someone's attention as in DO NOT MENTION the type of car a girl drove. I hate reading "So and so drove up in a brand new Jaguar." (I have read that about another girl)
Bascially don't write something about girl that you wouldn't want posted about yourself.
If you had a bad experience, do not make the girl out to be the Anti-Christ or in anyway write crap that could cause an unstable person to try to "retaliate" against her.
Use your brain, think before writing and follow The Golden Rule.
Good info, Talisa.
Also..this from a provider I know who told me she was glad I left her a vmail with my cell phone number & hotel #1 day prior:
She told me gets lotsof guys leaving her voicemail msgs 1 hr before she stops wkg w/ "Hi,I'm Joe at downtown Marriott Hotel, rm #." Provider sd ots hotels answer "and the last name of the guest?" and since they don't give it she can't get to them.
Leave no last name when @hotels = can't get f/up call.
Also, give providers time to screen. Calling 1 hr ahead for appt at 8pm means your ofc closed and she can't screen you. Not gonna see provider.
i don't care if it's illegal or not (since when did that hamper the hobby?) but if i were a provider i'd be secretly clutching a small handy container of mace or pepper spray the first time i was with a new client (hold it close as long as possible but certainly during the pre-encounter "get-2-know-you" phase of the session). some brothel workers in Europe hold on to them the whole time!
as any women's self-defense instructor would tell you, a can of mace and a loud whistle (let alone a few strategic martial arts moves) are INVALUABLE tools you shouldn't go without.
please protect yourself! hearing ghastly stories like these (too many of them over this holiday weekend it seems) gives me the creeps. my prayers to those who lost their life recently. it's a horrid shame to think it didn't have to end that way.
To be patient and not cringe when we ask for personal information.
This is a horrible act that lingers because now many hobbyists will have to shed information much more personal and leave themselves open to the fear of violation of their privacy.
I just give props to the gentleman who are understanding and caring about this whole situation and even newbies who don't ask and simply make things easier by cooperating with provider.
This is a chain reaction that has started panic and anxiety amongst many of us.
I have decided to now require that a first time client use a provider reference to schedule an appt. with me, since all this stuff happening lately. It's already hurt my business but I have to at least try to be safer. I have warned everyone I can think of about what has been happening. I think a way a client could be helpful is to not ask 'how did you screen me'? Like after they give me their name and stuff. I am tired of people asking how I do it.
Your kind words and heartfelt wishes for this young lady are very special. It is a pity that the authorities are so inhumane when they realized that the victim was an escort.
It really angered me that many were quoting that it was a relief to know that she was an escort and they felt safer that way.
I mean, c'mon, this was someone's daughter,best friend,girlfriend and to think of such inhumanity makes me sick.
She was a human who deserved all the respect like anybody else.
I am deeply disturbed and I hope that law enforcement will be swift in finding the perpetrator.
They need to send out a clear message to these abusers that these acts will not go unpunished.
A crime is a crime period.
I am very angry and I feel for her family and those who cared for her.
May she rest in peace and I hope that she is well wherever she now is.
will more thorough screening help in the case of a jealous or jilted client/regular who just goes berserk? In civilian life the majority of murders are committed by individuals the victim already knew and trusted in one form or another. I don't think it is a great leap of logic to acknowledge that a similar situation may apply to this hobby.
Ladies, my point is that while screening is important it should not be the only safegaurd in your arsenal. I think Singleton gave some very practical advice on how to protect yourself. There are many books on self-defense and personal safety that can give you the bare essentials of protecting and keeping yourself out of harm's way in these situations.
There are many other safegaurds that you can take but they're best not discussed on a public board. See a private security consultant. Believe me it will be worth it.
P.I.
This thread began as a plea for help in performing an act of kindness for Summer/Theresa's family, and perhaps a ritual sharing of grief among her friends here. I think it is inappropriate and in poor taste to use this thread to push our various agendas on screening policies, client responsibilities, and provider responsibilities. There are and will be plenty of other threads where you (and I) can hash these out.
rick, I'm afraid I have no stories to share. I never knew of Summer until this tragedy. I wish you luck in this, dare I say, noble endeavor.
I didn't want to start a whole new topic. I didn't know Summer. But my thoughts and prayers go out to her friends and family. Nothings hurt so much as the loss a friend or someone you love.
Love and Peace
Megan
I can not see how the statement you made earlier in this thread, "This is terrible. Please everyone be [careful]" can be considered as being "inappropriate" or in "poor taste". It is not as if you inserted a link to your website. So don't feel bad sweetheart.
This is a sad business and everyone's emotions are all over the map. God knows I've shed tears for Summer. But this is not time for us to attack each other. This is not what she would want.
ok, great. mom didnt know she was a ho, but we're gonna send in all these warm an fuzzies from all these johns all over the place. sure.